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jeffe, There will be no need to rechamber to get 405gr/1800fps. I think must folks will be glad to quit @ 1650fps. Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Nitro, will they be coming in under Rem or Baikal to Oz ?? Maybe we should get a few blokes together........................then there is the cz 550 .505 Gibbs I would love as well  Will this Baikal Double take a load of 46 gr of AR2207 behind the rem 405 gr bullet ?? | |||
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Wow, I didn't expect that there was going to be this much interest, I probably could have had one already! I was the one that the one at the SHOT Show was handed to while still in the box and asked, " do you know how to put that together?" I actually had my hands on it before anyone at Remington. It was VERY popular at the show, I really never got near it again while the show was going on, to big a crowd. I guess I should have taken the guy that hand delivered it, up on his offer! | |||
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What did it feel like?? A shotgun, or more like a double rifle?? | |||
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Davidson's and Zanders list these on their sites, but no stock at either. Read elsewhere that availability is September. Davidson's show MSRP of $559...will be interesting to see what the street price is. | |||
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For $550 she looks to be a fun rifle to play with. Although I'm no double fan I do love my 45-70's  If I come across one I'll buy it. | |||
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It felt sort like a short barreled smaller guage shotgun to me, which I think is close to what it is. | |||
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At that price I'd probably take it home, strip it all down, polish, dehorn and refinish the metal to a better degree and then reblue... Then redo the wood and fit it better. It would be a fun gun for playing around. .22 LR Ruger M77/22 30-06 Ruger M77/MkII .375 H&H Ruger RSM | |||
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I bought one of those already and it will be a lot of fun...Cheap shooting and mine was 5oo plus 30 tax.. Waiting for it to arrive..  Mike | |||
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Mike, where did you get it?? NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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I think the key to mike's statement is "I am wait for it to arrive." Meaning his dealer took his money and is ordering it when he gets it is any bodys guess. | |||
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Well, I don't believe it. They, Baikal, have been promising that gun for several years now. The excuses are endless. Perhaps, with Remington involved, it will happen, but I just do not believe it will hit the streets this year. | |||
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And it is, at $550.00 - for an SXS double rifle! Cheap, indeed! But I understand the barrels are "regulatable", so you can set them for whatever load you want to use, and they are made for a scope to be easily mounted. An advantage for old buzzards like me who can't see anymore! It looks like these SXS's have a rib between the barrels, unlike the O/U's?? "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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I'm interested in this in a big way. I'm thinking of a 540 gr flat point at about 1350 fps. Lots of penetration and a WFN would be the "Super Cut" of meplats. Maybe Jae Bok Young's cup point would be the thing. I think you might just get about three piggies lined up per shot! Packy | |||
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Savage, l'll take one!! 45/70 please jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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That page has been on the Baikal site for a long time. note "Elegant appearance and small weight owing to the receiver adopted from the small-bore IZH-43 options." | |||
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I spoke with the owner of a large gunshop here last week about these SXS's. He said that he has been after them for two years and that his jobber does not seem interested! At some point we will see them and they will find their level. Internet interest is odd. One would think that all that sells is Super 30's. Too add that this may be a chance for the Russians to rise from the basic stuff. If this SXS rifle were slicked, had ejectors and decent wood it would sell for a lot more and still have little competition. Join the NRA | |||
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I think you are right HOGKILLER! I have an 11 lb Pedersoli double rifle chambered for the 458 RCBS, and I certainly do not want a 7 lb one! My 458RCBS double is manageable with a 450 gr bullet in front of a load of 64.0 grs of IMR4064, but I don't think I'd like a steady diet of that load in a 7 lb rifle. I have a Ruger No1 that started life as a 45-70, that weighs 8 lbs with a steel Weaver scope, that was re-chambered to 458 RCBS, and it will get your attention when you pull the trigger! What I'd do with the Rem double is get it regulated with 350 gr factory ammo, and permenantly solder the adjustments closed, and install a permenant ribs full length. OR, rebarrel it to 30-30, and regulate it to factory 170 gr ammo, with the same permenant regulation and ribs. The grouved quarter rib should be modified to use Werne QD rings and bases. I don't think the .22LR style grouve, will stand up to much recoil with a scope mounted! Hell it is a $550 rifle, if it falls out of the canoe on a moose hunt, and is lost, your not too bad off replaceing it! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I've been looking for and asking the local shops about the availability of this rifle since back in January or February when it showed up on the Remington webiste. Nobody can tell me when it might be available, but I'll probably buy one when it is. Shoot, I even e-mailed EAA last year when their catalog showed they were offering a double rifle (initially chambered in 270 & 30-06 & something else common) to suggest they include 45-70 and maybe some other interesting rimmed cartridges (22 Hornet, 30-30, whatever). And pointed out that it wouldn't necessarily have to be one of the classic English double calibers to be interesting at the price. I could see me having 2 double rifles, one a 45-70 and the other a Hornet for less than the price of a Citori. Why not? -WSJ | |||
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just spoke with remington... they are nearly finished, first shipment, and waiting to get on a boat from russia... still standing firm to "mid to end of july" jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Cool. I guess I'd better start saving my lunch money and get an order in at the local gum emporium. -WSJ | |||
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yeahaw! this should be interesting the next couple of years to see what people turn these into and another resurgence of a great round. even at the "saami" specs with a big meplat and a tough bullet this gun will kick ass! yeahaw! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Now it'll be race to see who actually get's their gun to the marketplace first - Remington/Spartan with the 45-70 or CZUSA/Huglu with the 28 ga. SxS shotgun. Someone's finally going to make me the owner of a side by side something! -WSJ | |||
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thats what i'm talking about! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Me thinks I'll have to get one at that price  Too bad they don't plan on making one in 30-30, that would neat!I also agree that there is no nead to re-chamber to a stretched 45-70, or one of the low pressure 450 NE rounds. It is a fun gun for NA safari's. Here piggy pigggy piggy  __________________________________________________ The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time. | |||
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Paul, i think i have come full circle on that, too.. I have heavy guns.. wouldn't mind a light double.. and heck, i can always throat the chambers and run barnes X bullets jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I called Remington also, about 6 months ago and got the same story. Waiting to get on the boat in Russia. Man that must be a slow boat. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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this is russia we are talking about, they want a bribe for every step of the process, it is the grease for the wheel there. if remchester threw some dough around you would all get em next week  577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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love that idea...how fast do you think you can get them to go? 300 or 350 gr.? share your loads when you do when the boat gets here 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Not that there isn't corruption in Russia, but the biggest problem with the post communist countries is that nobody there will make a decision, and thus be responsible for something, hmm, sadly I'm seeing more and more of that here. Anyhow, if you want to get some paperwork signed, you go and see the guy who you think is supposed to sign it, and find out it is his boss, he can't approve it, and his boss isn't there, or, another department of the government is responsible for that paperwork. __________________________________________________ The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time. | |||
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just got off the phone with Remingtons's Media Relations Group in Madison, NC...the double is now quoted as "first quarter of 2008, if we can get anybody at the plant to take some responsibility...". Holdover from Politburo communist days...nobody wants to stick their neck out and approve anything. They cannot delve deep enough into the business to get ANY ONE PERSON! to make management do what needs to be done so the rifles are safe, let alone quality fit and finish to put their name on them. Building Quality Double Rifles Version 1.4 is to bring some of the big dogs over here and show them how manufacturing and making money is done. Doing business there is like peeling an onion...there is always another layer to get thru, and in the end you have nothing. Remington is determined to get them built right, decent quality, and sell lots of them. there's always next year... Rich DRSS | |||
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i'll go spend a year over there, ex-pat of couse, and get this on line... I'll need a HUGE "royality" budget, though opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I've heard first, second, third quarter of the Year for the last two+ years. Don't hold your breath Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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