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Well, if we get all of these Spartans in. There will be a need for a Minor League Double Rifle Shooters Society  Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Count me in for a 45/70 ..and when you get them i will hitch a ride and come see ya to pick it up .. Maybe even two of them .. Martin  .550 diameter bullet design | |||
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Count me in for one or two... Thanks, Sendero300>>>===TerryP | |||
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I'll take a 45-70. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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I'm also interested. But I've been waiting for several years now... I figure it's about like waiting for My hair to grow back, it ain't gonna happen.  DRSS member Constant change is here to stay. | |||
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Pottsy, just gotta tease me with the 550 bullets!!! As for price, don't have a real place to start... reckon a dealer will need to put us together a package deal... the PM said he would be talking to some of his favorite dealers to work with us... he took this seriously.. So, here's what *I* think.. these will be available within a couple months... in very limited quantity.. and a group buy will be about the only way "normal guys" get them. I'll be buying 2 for me... one to play with, one to keep stock jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Oh come on be a sport!  Really though what is this thing going to cost? $500-$700? I spent more on my wife trying to make up for forgeting our anniversary last year. | |||
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I am being a sport. This is Remington we're talking about here. The creator of such groundbreaking revolutionary firearms advancements as, Etronix, The J-Lock, and the highly regarded M710 rifle and emergency boat oar. I really like the idea. I'll believe it when I can see Baikal's clunky action in my hot hands and can put one on layaway. I wonder if the 30-06 version can be rebored to 9.3x62? ZM | |||
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Jeffe, Put me down for one. Maybe I can talk Frank into bringing it back with his. Thanks. Craig | |||
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Count me in for one. | |||
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Is this it?  How expensive is 450 to reload for compared to 45-70? I'm sure teh major difference is in brass. Didn't Cabelas import an Italian made 45-70 a few years back? H | |||
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tease ...  ... Me ...  | |||
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yup...you guessed it...  me too 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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what could it be bored out to max? 45-90 45-110, 45-120, 45-3 1/4???????? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I'll take the 45/70. | |||
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Jeffe wait a dam minute who are you calling NORMAL! Dean | |||
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Hola Tonto yo no dije que tu es normal. Utilicé las citas para implicar que normal no significó normal. Por otro parte, el tonto, tu es bastante normal para un grande aburre a tirador... no espera.. un poco alto de normal para tener el 600 Pottsy... I am nearly out of .550 bullets!!! jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I'd like one too but I seriously doubt that any would be imported into Oz. And I would need to convince one of my American friends to hold it for me until I can get over, with all the necessary paperwork to import it back into Oz, and pick it up. I am looking at a bear hunt in 2006 which would be a great time to pick it up - any idea when the Spartans might be available? (From what I've read, I guess that there is no real answer to this last question!!!!) If I can solve these couple of 'little' problems, then count me in. "White men with their ridiculous civilization lie far from me. No longer need I be a slave to money" (W.D.M Bell) www.cybersafaris.com.au | |||
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Jeff i got held up becouse i didnt have any jackets ..and still dont ..what i have is a draw die set for .660 jacket down to .550 jacket That means i have some... .660 jackets that need to be drawn down to .550 diameter before i can use them .. Once there drawn down i need to be able to ..clip them off at the right length .. for what every bullet weight i am going to make from them . the fuzzy picture of the one in my figers is a 619 Grain .. it was just one that the jacket was test cut to trying to get to the bullet weight of 700 grains .. Nice bullet .. did alaska bullet work start selling them yet .. I hate to start selling them before thay do ..It is there bullet designI just twisted Richard arm harder I gotta give them a little running head start My designs wont be done for sometime. Martin | |||
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Jeffe, Any idea what the pressure might be with the 450 #2 loaded to 2150 with a 500 grainer? Roger QSL | |||
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I would take two,one in each 30-06 & 45-70 thanks for the effort on your part | |||
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The ranks of the DRSS is going to SWELL BIG TIME if Jeff pulls this off! 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express  If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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Well folks, by my count that is 31 solid, and ten maybes. I think that might get an order going! Do we need a deposite? ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Hey Hog Killer, you don't need to have seperate DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTER'S SOCIETY, just a 45-70 double rifle division! This could make for a real fun shoot in the spring when the weather is cool. By that time everyone will have them dialed in, and we could have a chargeing Black bear for the 45-70 chargeing target, along with the chargeing Cape Buffalo for the larger rifles! Then go on to a hog hunt on one of the hog ranches, and make it a two, or three day get together! FUN! Don't you think? ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Count me in for 1. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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reboard to .366 diameter and rechambered to 9.3x64 you mean lol | |||
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I think you both mean rebored and rechambered to 9.3x74R. Low pressure rimmed rounds and doubles -- just that much better. | |||
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Damn Charles, Now i need 2. But I think Jeff posted 45-70 only. Semper Fi WE BAND OF BUBBAS STC Hunting Club | |||
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I never said it would work. If we were trying multiple calibers I would have to check my piggy bank again and vote 45-70 and 30-06 as well. | |||
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480gr is what the 450 #2 was designed for and at 2150 the presure is 13 tons psi at 12* C or close to that temp I think. Semper Fi WE BAND OF BUBBAS STC Hunting Club | |||
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I think ..If you look at the barrels on the double ....Well thay look kinda thin...i dont know if a person could .. safely rechamber to a much longer case length. But i think you might be right 9.3x74R | |||
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Here's the "game" - don't mean to sound gruff, just laying down facts. 1: 45/70 only - no point in one offs to muddy the deal 2: a single dealer will order from a distributor 3: distributor (and dealer) will keep the order intact as a special order, and not allow for dilution of the order 4: cost is a TBD - myself, well, as long as it aint over list, i don't care 5: No money will be taken until we have firm dates. No need to send me anything on this at this time 6: All firearms rules apply 7: the dealer will want a reasonable distribution time... less than 2 weeks is probably fine 8: getting your gun to you is between you and the dealer.. 9: when the time comes, we will send funds to the dealer (we'll address payment to the dealer) for the group buy. I am not handling the money 10: nothing will be done unless I am certain remington will come through jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Sounds good to me -- I understand that you need to keep it simple. | |||
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God your a party pooper | |||
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Mac, Sounds great to me, my AR shirts are going to look like a NASCAR racer with, "WE BAND OF BUBBAS", "STC HUNTING CLUB", and "DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY".  I did get to shoot robgunbuilder's CZ O/U 458 Lott, even though the barrels are laid out wrong(O/U), it was fun to get two aimed shoots off that fast. Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Unless my math is really bad, should make for a easy rechamber to this round. Right! 480 at 2150, in a 7.5 lb gun, interesting. Thanks, Roger QSL | |||
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Jeffeosso, Thnks for your efforts. Nothing could be more fair than what you have suggested. Zeke, I was at the Rockford gun show on Sunday and got to see some Spartan labelled SxS 12 shotguns with outside hammers as well as hammerless ones. They were very well put together for their $ 485 price though the very short 20" barrels kept me from buying them. Some weeks ago on a trip to Kenosha I saw a slightly different design of shotgun at Gander Mountain and that, too was very nice for the price. I am sure that you would like to buy one after you see an example bought by one of your friends. Cheers, everyone!  Mehul Kamdar "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."-- Patrick Henry | |||
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Jeffe, have you heard anything from Remington? Are they even considering this? ______________________ Age and Treachery Will Always Overcome Youth and Skill | |||
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 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Without a better idea of the strength of the action and the thickness of the barrels in the area to be affected by the rechambering, you just might give a whole new meaning to "Boom Stick."  | |||
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