damn that thing flailed around with all that free recoil. Thanks! So what psi are the proof loads?

let me just say a lot more than the black powder loads for it will ever generate. If the barrel was made of actual 4140 barrel steel it would easily handle smokeless powder loads....the shooter probably wouldn't but the action would.

Colin

Now THAT was some recoil. How much black powder did you use for the proof load???

I'd prefer not to say what I loaded it with, but the PSI was about 3 times what the max black powder load would produce.

Colin

O K, who's up for kidnapping Colin and holding him ransom till he goes

through all the darn gov't hurdles required to establish him as a lawful

maker of smokeless powder, cartridge firing, double rifles in the traditional

British pattern. We are being deprived until the situation that now exists

is corrected! The man's skills are just outstanding!

Thank you all for the compliments.

quote:

Originally posted by BigFiveJack:
O K, who's up for kidnapping Colin and holding him ransom till he goes through all the darn gov't hurdles required to establish him as a lawful maker of smokeless powder, cartridge firing, double rifles in the traditional British pattern. We are being deprived until the situation that now exists is corrected! The man's skills are just outstanding!

While I appreciate the compliment of being compared to the traditional British Gunmakers and understand your sentiments about wanting me to be able to make modern firearms, I spent more than a few years, quite a chunk of money and several trips through the federal court system to remove myself as much as possible from the Federal Gov't System. Keep in mind I am a gunmaker and very well armed, so while kidnapping and coercion might sound like a good plan on the surface, it could be very bad for your health...

Colin

So I guess you voted for
Obama

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
So I guess you voted for
Obama

That's just down right mean making derogatory comments like that.

quote:

Originally posted by CowboyCS:
Thank you all for the compliments.

quote:

Originally posted by BigFiveJack:
O K, who's up for kidnapping Colin and holding him ransom till he goes through all the darn gov't hurdles required to establish him as a lawful maker of smokeless powder, cartridge firing, double rifles in the traditional British pattern. We are being deprived until the situation that now exists is corrected! The man's skills are just outstanding!

While I appreciate the compliment of being compared to the traditional British Gunmakers and understand your sentiments about wanting me to be able to make modern firearms, I spent more than a few years, quite a chunk of money and several trips through the federal court system to remove myself as much as possible from the Federal Gov't System. Keep in mind I am a gunmaker and very well armed, so while kidnapping and coercion might sound like a good plan on the surface, it could be very bad for your health...

Colin

We out here together have more guns than you! You have MANY, we have MANY, MANY!

Is it plausible that a man like you could work under the auspices of another

who DOES have the legal status to produce modern weapons,

{ say like www.sskindustries.com } when it came to making a firearm that

you now, under your own aegis are prevented from making TO SELL ?

Thing is Colin now has a lifetime of work just
doing super great 2 and 4 and maybe 8
bore replicas, if he wants, he will never have time
to make anything else. And under those
circumstances, really, big bore nuts, wouldn't want
him to go back to smaller.Ed

Well the Brts have Alan Myers,and we have Colin
so we are bless.

quote:

Originally posted by big will:
Well the Brts have Alan Myers,and we have Colin
so we are bless.

www.ttproctor.com too in England. Fine work, very fine and beautiful.

If I could do this... ... BUT NOW BACK TO COLIN AND HIS WORK !!!

CowboyCS

What was the proof load ?
What is left to do ?
Are you rust blueing the barrel or browning it ?

Keep it coming.
Fantastic work.

Thanks
Nitro450exp

Patience is a virtue, embrace it if you can, often in a woman, seldom in a man.

The answer to the proof question is back up the page a ways, the answer to your other questions is in the update I posted today:
2 Bore page 5

Colin

If Murphy(Murphy's law) hadn't stopped by to visit with me this morning I would be posting an update with finished pictures, but as it is all you get is an update and you'll have to wait until later in the week(hopefully) for the finished pictures and maybe even video's of some of the first shots.
2 Bore Page 5

Bigdoggy will probably be the first person on this forum to get to see it in person, because I will be stopping by his place next month to pick up the 2 Bore Boxlock Muzzleloader on my way to the NMLRA Spring Shoot(June 12-20th). But if anyone is going to be at the NMLRA shoot please feel free to stop by, I should be in booth 110 and I'd love to put some faces to the names on this Forum. I'll also be doing an engraving demonstration Sunday Night(June 13th) at the Gunmakers Hall. I should have 3 - 2 Bores with me, Bigdoggy's Steve Zihn 2 Bore(Steve asked me to pick it up and display it for him in my booth since he couldn't make the trip this time), Bigdoggy's 2 Bore Boxlock that I built and the 2 Bore Jones Underlever. I'll also have at least one other rifle with me(a .50cal Muzzleloader) possibly one of my SxS muzzleloaders and maybe one of my pistols(waiting on customers to ship them back to me so I can take them to the show). Like I said I'd love to meet some of you if you are going to be there.

Colin

Colin, just call me when you know the time for a pick up and I will accomadate you any way I can. thanks

It's been a long journey building this rifle but it is finally finished.

The specifications:

* Caliber: 2 Bore (1.325" groove diameter)
* Action: Left hand Jones Rotary Underlever w/Back action hammer lock and extractor
* Barrel: 28" long (1:48 twist) w/ Quarterrib and ramped front sight base.
* Weight: 22 Pounds 3 Ounces w/ 3-13ounce mercury recoil reducers
* Length of pull, drop at comb, drop at heel and style of stock were all built to the customers specification.
* Stock: Sugar Maple w/ ebony forearm tip, stained to customers specifications, oil finished, and carnuba waxed.
* Checkering: 20 Line Per Inch Semi-flattop, borderless.
* Finish: Action, Underlever, Triggerguard, Grip Cap, Back action lock, Off-side plate, and escheutons are Color Case Hardened, the monoblock and barrel are rust blued, the screws are nitre blued.
* Recoil Pad: Pachmayr Decelerator
* Sights: Rear - NECG Multi-leaf Express Sight, Front - Stolzer and Son's Partial Silver Caterpillar.
* Cartridges: S&H 2 Bore Black powder express 3.5" 700gr FFg, Jeff Tanner Custom Ball Mould, 1.325" 3500gr, Arsenal Primers.
* The Rotary Underlever acts to the right, at the request of the Customer, all other functions are left handed.
* Engraving is a custom pattern by Stolzer and Son's in traditional broad acanthus leaves.


















The only thing remaining to do on this rifle is develop a load, file and blue the rear sight. I'll try to get videos posted of me shooting it when I do some of the sight in work.

Colin

EXCELLENT!!!

MAGNIFICENT!

quote:

Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
MAGNIFICENT!

..Go fire that sucker now...

Colin pm sent.

I am drooling for mine all ready. Too bad I gotta save up for most of it still.

--With this 2bore monstrum, deerhunting will never be the same again...

Thanks for showing Cowboy...

Thank You all for the compliments.

I'll get out and shoot it pretty soon, but right now I am stacked pretty deep in stuff, with a bunch of local things going on that I am part of and with the NMLRA show coming up in a couple weeks.

You'll have to wear a bib when I stop by in a couple weeks, I can't have you leaving drool all over this one before the show.

Colin

I "AIN'T SCAAEERDDD"!

quote:

Originally posted by jens poulsen:

quote:

Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
MAGNIFICENT!

..Go fire that sucker now...

SAFARIKID,

A lot like the old commercials of Mikey will eat anything, we already know that you will shoot anything.

Colin

EXCELLENT WORK!!!

Cowboy,

Very nice work, one of these days, after winning the lottery, I will comission you.
Uterly stunning.

Nitro450exp

Thank You.

Nitro450exp, I'm pretty sure you don't have to win the lottery, I'm not that expensive and I'm pretty flexible with the finances. Ask Bigdoggy, I bet he'll tell you I'm pretty easy to work with.

Colin

Smoke a cigar!
Worthy of celebrating the birth of this big baby!

I think it might kill the elephants from fear of the size of bore!

It just amazes me that this project started out as a block of steel and a log. Months later reveals a one-of-a-kind work of art.

Colin...you are amazing!!!!


Kevin

Thank you for the kind words.

"block of steel and a log"...hmm, a guy has to start somewhere. Actually this all started with a customer who saw the 2 Bore Boxlock muzzleloader and said "Would you be willing to build me a 2 Bore based on the S&H brass?". That'll teach me to talk to customers....

Colin

Colin, pick up schedule on the 2 bores??? thanks Ken pm me please when you know.

Ken,

PM and email sent.

Thanks

Colin

I will see you on the 10th. buddy.

Looking forward to it.

Colin

quote:

Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
Thanks Colin for clarifying that ...I was Not impressed and the hole looked to small! IF I am going to shoot a 2 bore,dammit,thats what I want! As far as 24 Drams with 3500 grains of Lead?! Ouch!

Tom

You will be fine, just make sure you slung between the same 4 posts in the video when you touch that off, will be fine in a 10 lbs rifle just need to add a 20 lbs muzzle brake

colin

May I ask why you are loading with a spherical ball, what advantage, if any will that give over Jay's turned solid "semi-wadcutter" bullet?

The rifle is set up with a 1:48 twist, at the customers request. He wants to be able to shoot cast round balls(cheap to cast on his own time), paradox style lighter weight cast conicals(2500grains, he's having a mould made by NEI for them), and S&H solids if he chooses. So the answer is, you can shoot a lot of lead round balls for the cost of a single brass solid. It also fits nicely with the original idea of the large bore rifles that primarily shot round balls(nastolgia).

Colin