That’s an awesome looking piece of artillery…

I want one!!!!

Cowboy.

I know fuzzy little critters are distracting, FOCUS MAN !!!!, Keep your eyes on the prize.
Come on so close. I can't wait.

Seriously, looking good !
Looking forward to the finished piece.

Yes I am impatient, I know.

Regards
Nitro450exp

Trophyhunter5000, all it takes is time and money to get one, you provide the money and I will provide the time.

nitro450exp, the fuzzy critters are so cute though, and then we feed them up and kill them. It's getting closer to being done, just a little more patience.

This weeks up date is on my website:
2 Bore Jones Underlever Page 4

The latest pictures:




Colin

quote:

Originally posted by CowboyCS:
Trophyhunter5000, all it takes is time and money to get one, you provide the money and I will provide the time.

That's my problem CowboyCS I've got plenty of time and no money...

In all seriousness I am very interested in your rifle just got a few other projects to wrap up first…

Please keep the updates coming and when I get the $$$ we’ll talk…

You know,
It's one thing to not know how a rifle groups.
It's another to be afraid to find out!
I don't know if I could survive the 3 shots to find out.

Are you supposed to schedual physical therapy after a range sesion?

John

Well there are some things to consider about groups, for one thing, a single shot from this will cover a 5 shot group from every other gun I own, except one of my double rifles. Secondly 99.999% of the people on the planet are never going to shoot this rifle, and of the .001% who might, how many of them do you think are going to put a second round through it, let alone a third...

I'm just kidding, the truth is with these 2 Bores, you start out low and work up to the load that you can tolerate and then you stop right there(before you get yourself hurt) and sight in for that. With this rifle I've had numerous conversations with the customer and I'm going to work up the best load for accuracy within what he believes is going to be his top limit. With this having a standard NECG rear sight, if the load is to much for him and it needs to be backed down, then all he has to do is order another sight, work up the load he can tolerate and then file it in. Then he sends it to me and I finish it to match the rest of the rifle and ship it back.

From my experience with the 2 Bore Muzzleloader, I know that my limit with that rifle was 500gr FFg, it weighs 24 pounds and was a smoothbore, so it had less recoil than this one will, since this one is rifled and will weigh about 22 pounds(customer chose the target weight), I think it's going to be real close to that when I am done. So 500gr maybe more than I can handle in this rifle, but I've already discussed that with my customer and he is already aware of the fact that what is possible with this cartridge and rifle is not necessarily prudent. Even in reduced loads this has a lot of potential to injure the shooter, and I can speak from experience that shooting the 2 Bore Muzzleloader is not something you want to do very much of or very often. At least not if you like your back the way it is, it doesn't spin me around the way Sir Samuel baker described "Baby" but it does try to bend you and twist you at the waist all at the same time, and after 3 or 4 shots I can definitely feel it in my lower back. So I can surmise that this rifle will be worse since it will generate more recoil.

Colin

quote:

99.999% of the people on the planet

People from other planets might like to shoot it full power ..... load development will be entertaining for sure!!

What is the barrel length on this 2 bore cartridge gun and the weight?? Thanks Ken

Bigdoggy, the barrel is 28" and the final weight is supposed to be 22 pounds(customer requested weight). I think it is going to be just a little over 22 pounds finished weight. Right now it weighs 20 pounds and a couple ounces, but I haven't added any weight to the buttstock yet to balance the rifle.

Colin

Looks good Cowboy !!.

I am so pleased to see that someone again has picked up the Jones underlever, backaction hammer system.

At that weight, any serious load is going to be a real stomper!!

I luv it! I'll shoot the Durn thing ...Load er up!

quote:

Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
I luv it! I'll shoot the Durn thing ...Load er up!

Admit it Kid...You want a babycarbine for light saddlework..

I am sure that the KID would not be afraid to shoot it. I think he has shaken loose a few rocks all ready with all the super light weight stuff he shoots. Just kidding Tommy!!

Yes,I want one with a 16" barrel one day!...Great for these Georgia Hawgs!

quote:

Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
Yes,I want one with a 16" barrel one day!...Great for these Georgia Hawgs!

An 18" double Tom ...?? Might need to sport nomex and a helmet .....

If the damn thing "doubles" he's going to need a lot more than that!!

John

A double rifle 2 Bore actually wouldn't be a bad deal, it would add a whole barrels worth of extra weight, and then by the time you added weight to the butt to balance that it would probably weight in the high 20's maybe even 30 pounds. Since they are shootable at 24 pounds, adding 4-6 pounds would make it decent to shoot, horrible to carry, but hey you have to trade off somewhere.

As for doubling, on outside hammer locks that really isn't a problem, it just means building a locks with inertia pin interrupters on the tumblers.

This weeks update is posted:
2 Bore Page 5
Colin

A 2-bore "cardplayers special" is the real option for the loosers last "badhand"..It could solve some "temporary" problems..Do you play cards Kid??

quote:

Originally posted by CowboyCS:
A double rifle 2 Bore actually wouldn't be a bad deal, it would add a whole barrels worth of extra weight, and then by the time you added weight to the butt to balance that it would probably weight in the high 20's maybe even 30 pounds. Since they are shootable at 24 pounds, adding 4-6 pounds would make it decent to shoot, horrible to carry, but hey you have to trade off somewhere.

As for doubling, on outside hammer locks that really isn't a problem, it just means building a locks with inertia pin interrupters on the tumblers.

This weeks update is posted:
2 Bore Page 5
Colin

Colin, would you have any interest in building the little brother to the above- a 4 gauge double shotgun smoothbore?

Karl.

Karl,

I sent you a PM.

Colin

Got it Colin

Thanks,
Karl.

I know you all were think, it's about time he got off his ass and did something with this project....seriously though I've been diligently working on it. And the latest up date is posted on my website; 2 Bore Page 5

These are probably the pictures that most everybody wants to see though:


Colin

Looking good!! I wish I could get more than a down payment to you, but the rest will have to wait. I will get the fitting sheets filled out this weekend.

Any new pictures or progress on this great project????

Hopefully later this weekend I will have an update posted, I got side tracked this week for a few days. Our clothes drier died last week and I spent last Saturday shopping(I hate shopping for anything) for a new set with my wife. The closest real shopping for us is an hours drive since we live in the sticks, so we had to go to Lincoln, then they didn't have the set my wife wanted in stock. Which was alright because she decided she wanted a stackable set of front loaders and that meant having to remodel the laundry room, which took me a couple days to gut it and put it back together. Then Wednesday afternoon I had to go back to Lincoln to pick-up the set and then get them put in the new space in the laundry room. So a large portion of my week has been spent doing things to keep the wife happy....as most married men know if the Wife isn't happy nobody in the house is going to be happy. But I have the engraving mostly done and the finish on the stock is starting to look really nice, so I should have some pictures later this weekend.

Colin

I just noticed the "Big Bore" forum is for bore diameters from 0.375 up to 1.008.

You guys need your own forum

Would a range of 1.009 to 3.008 inch be adequate ?

Should we start a poll?
() F'N Big Bore Forum
() Harpoon Forum
() Shoulder Cannon Forum

One of the other forums I post on changed their Big Bore Forum definition after I started posting there. It used to say .375 up to 1.008 Vincent, now it is .375 up to 2 bore.

Colin

There is a new update on the website finally, lots of pictures; 2 Bore Page 5

Colin

I added an update this morning with a video of the color case hardening process.
2 Bore Page 5

Colin

Liked the video. would be good to get more vids of the works in progress

OUTSTANDING!!! Just the right amount of engraving and well executed IMHO! Colin you are well on your way. Alright, what guns can I live without......I need an 8 bore.

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
Liked the video. would be good to get more vids of the works in progress

Most of the stuff I do is a tedious, slow, boring process that doesn't make for a very exciting video. Watching lathe's turn, and mills run, for hours on end gets boring fast. Watching me file or sand or polish is also right up there with watching grass grow. Watching a big cloud of smoke come from a quench barrel is almost interesting for a couple seconds....that's why I don't make very many video's, and the fact that I don't have a camera grew to shift around and follow along with what I am doing(stationary filming doesn't work very well when you change positions every couple seconds).

Colin

quote:

Originally posted by degoins:
OUTSTANDING!!! Just the right amount of engraving and well executed IMHO! Colin you are well on your way. Alright, what guns can I live without......I need an 8 bore.

Thank You.

I thought you already had an 8 Bore Steve Zihn Muzzleloader...

Colin

quote:

Originally posted by CowboyCS:

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
Liked the video. would be good to get more vids of the works in progress

Most of the stuff I do is a tedious, slow, boring process that doesn't make for a very exciting video. Watching lathe's turn, and mills run, for hours on end gets boring fast. Watching me file or sand or polish is also right up there with watching grass grow. Watching a big cloud of smoke come from a quench barrel is almost interesting for a couple seconds....that's why I don't make very many video's, and the fact that I don't have a camera grew to shift around and follow along with what I am doing(stationary filming doesn't work very well when you change positions every couple seconds).

Colin

I was thinking about if you would talk about the process and progress with short clips of you doing the work. Would also be good to see it fired at the end.

quote:

I thought you already had an 8 Bore Steve Zihn Muzzleloader...

Sold it. Let me clarify....I need an 8 bore breech loading cartridge rifle.

I finished up the Color Case Hardening of the Action and Forearm Iron this morning.



That's it for today, I am headed for the Dentist this afternoon to see about a tooth that has been bothering me for the past couple days.

Colin

quote:

Originally posted by degoins:
I need an 8 bore breech loading cartridge rifle.

I could probably help you fill that need.

Colin

quote:

I could probably help you fill that need.

Oh I know you can....I just need money to send you.....

As expected, your case hardening looks fantastic.

Another update today with a video of one of the proof shots is on my website now.

2 Bore Page 5

Colin