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Do you start with a .375 H&H or something else? Thanks, | ||
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If it can take a h&h you can make it a 404. You need a magnum length action. A p14 or m1917 would make a good start for a 404. | |||
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Or a Win Model 70 in one of the ultramags . DRSS | |||
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mine is a Montana 1999, and a M70 LH that started as a 7mm mag... DRSS Member | |||
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And mine is on a standard M-98 Mauser and was built by Jeffery in 1906 Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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oh, bullspit ... if it can take a full lenght HH case, or full length weatherby, it can take a 404 .. what would YOU like to build on? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Lucky you and good taste. Pics? A vintage action would be good for a vintage cart. An ultra mag action might be the easiest conversion. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Mine is built by Jack Haugh on a 1935 Brazilian Mauser Banner standard military action, & stocked by Sterling Davenport. A beautiful classic rifle that feeds great. It does just hold three down though, but that could be changed with a Weibe or Blackburn deep box bottom metal. ____________________________ .470 & 9.3X74R Chapuis' Tikka O/U 9.3X74R Searcy Classics 450/.400 3" & .577 C&H .375 2 1/2" Krieghoff .500 NE Member Dallas Safari Club | |||
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Mine is built on a Winchester model 70 wrapped ina feather weight stock and has a Lothar barrel.. Its a beauty. Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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Mine were built on Montana 1999 long actions. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I like the Model 70 followed by the BRNO. | |||
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M70 will work.. Or Montana long... We've got friends here with several examples working.. And, of course, every rum could be converted... Good luck opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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 Mine is built on a ZKK 602. You can get 5 down the magazine with a little bit work. M | |||
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I have one on consignment at Champlin. Built on a standard Mauser action by Westley Richards in 1926. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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The question should be whether you want a controlled feed or a push feed and how many coins do you have in your pocket. Lots of actions available for both. What are you hunting? Why the 404 Jeff specifically? I think it's an excellent cartridge but in this day and age there are many excellent cartridges out there much easier to obtain cases for, with the same or better ballistics... Not to mention the dearth of bullet selections.(arguably) It has it's nostalgia benefits certainly...not many can say they have a 404 Jeffery in their rack...which is reason enough to have one. | |||
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Great looking rifle. New barrel and looks super. How is a scope mounted on it? The "top" looks different than what I am used to looking at. | |||
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Mine is built on a pre 64 Model 70 action. Feeds great. Hook em Horns | |||
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1950's FN Columbian ex military 98 | |||
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An involuntary shiver just ran up my spine... would love to see that one! And mine was built on a Classic M70 RUM by HCR. On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Mine is a LH CZ 550 Mag action. Work fine. There probably more practical cartridges in the modern times. However, the .404 has stood the test of time and still does the job. | |||
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Looking at having one built off a LH Rem 700 action if I don't get my 416rm tamed down a little. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Make no mistake. You can load the 404 Jeffery up to where it can kill on both ends of the rifle! In my custom made MRC Long Action rifle at 10.5 pounds it's fun. In my lighter M 03 Mauser, it gets your attention rather quickly! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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One of the great things about the 404 is that it does not require a magnum length action. A standard length pre-war 98 Mauser is the only action I would consider. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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dogcat, no scope on it, was never drilled. That's bascially the reason I'm selling it; iron sights are not for me at my advanced age and I'm not gonna be the guy to drill holes in a WR/Mauser. And I need the money for Mr. Syncerus Caffer next year! Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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Cape Buffalo...translating from Mr Westley Richards smart-ass :-) | |||
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A traditional cartridge has to be built on a traditional action. | |||
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Mine was done a Oberndorf (Chilean) standard length Mauser 98 action. Feeds and functions flawlessly. http://forums.accuratereloadin...521/m/1191030271/p/3 Mike | |||
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and nothing is more traditional than M-70  "The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain TANSTAAFL www.savannagems.com A unique way to own a piece of Africa. DSC Life NRA Life | |||
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. . . unless it is a 98 action. Mike | |||
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The M98 Mauser wasn't too bad as a prototype--   "The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain TANSTAAFL www.savannagems.com A unique way to own a piece of Africa. DSC Life NRA Life | |||
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All sorts of good suggestions here. I will just say that mine is built on a VZ24 and works flawlessly. IMHO, any CRF with a 3.6" box will work fine. | |||
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 Here ia a photo my my 1907 vintage 404 Jeffery built on a standard length commercial M-98  Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Hi Phil. A pity I didnt get a chance to hold and handle that rifle last fall… Maybe one day I will get the chance again… Ulrik | |||
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I certainly hope so as well Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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That's a nice example of an opened up M98 phil. As a matter of interest how much metal has been removed from the front ramp/lower locking lug recess to fit the 404? Like to compare with my own M98 in 404. | |||
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I hear the M70 in a RUM chambering makes for a very easy conversion based upon the similar size of the RUM and the Jeffery casing. ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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Phil that is a fantastic rifle - but no recoil pad? ALLEN W. JOHNSON - DRSS Into my heart on air that kills From yon far country blows: What are those blue remembered hills, What spires, what farms are those? That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain, The happy highways where I went And cannot come again. A. E. Housman | |||
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I used a BRNO ZG47 for a 404. Ken DRSS, PP Chapter Life NRA Life SCI Life DSC | |||
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Allen, This rifle of mine was one of the very first 404's that Jeffery built and they built on a standard commercial 1905 action. The 404 was the first large bore designed for bolt rifles and Jeffery was experimenting and piecing out work to many smaller shops in the area. It was obviously designed as a working rifle and proofed for the same 400 gr bullet and 60 gr cordite as the 450/400. Even with the steel butt the recoil is not bad and no worse than a 375 of the same weight ( 8 1/2 lb) Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I have a vz24 action and a lothar Walther barrel for my .404 project. | |||
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