What action is needed to build a .404 Jeffrey

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06 February 2014, 02:48

dogcat

What action is needed to build a .404 Jeffrey

Do you start with a .375 H&H or something else?
Thanks,

06 February 2014, 03:06

Joe21

If it can take a h&h you can make it a 404. You need a magnum length action. A p14 or m1917 would make a good start for a 404.

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06 February 2014, 07:27

jeffeosso

oh, bullspit ... if it can take a full lenght HH case, or full length weatherby, it can take a 404 .. what would YOU like to build on?

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06 February 2014, 08:28

boom stick

quote:
Originally posted by 458Win:
And mine is on a standard M-98 Mauser and was built by Jeffery in 1906

Lucky you and good taste. Pics?
A vintage action would be good for a vintage cart.
An ultra mag action might be the easiest conversion.

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06 February 2014, 08:54

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Mine is built by Jack Haugh on a 1935 Brazilian Mauser Banner standard military action, & stocked by Sterling Davenport. A beautiful classic rifle that feeds great. It does just hold three down though, but that could be changed with a Weibe or Blackburn deep box bottom metal.

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06 February 2014, 08:58

cal30 1906

Mine is built on a Winchester model 70 wrapped ina feather weight stock and has a Lothar barrel..
Its a beauty.

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06 February 2014, 16:02

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quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
oh, bullspit ... if it can take a full lenght HH case, or full length weatherby, it can take a 404 .. what would YOU like to build on?

I like the Model 70 followed by the BRNO.

06 February 2014, 16:24

jeffeosso

M70 will work.. Or Montana long... We've got friends here with several examples working.. And, of course, every rum could be converted...

Good luck

06 February 2014, 21:20

PSmith

I have one on consignment at Champlin.

Built on a standard Mauser action by Westley Richards in 1926.

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07 February 2014, 00:23

NONAGONAGIN

The question should be whether you want a controlled feed or a push feed and how many coins do you have in your pocket.

Lots of actions available for both.

What are you hunting?

Why the 404 Jeff specifically? I think it's an excellent cartridge but in this day and age there are many excellent cartridges out there much easier to obtain cases for, with the same or better ballistics...

Not to mention the dearth of bullet selections.(arguably)

It has it's nostalgia benefits certainly...not many can say they have a 404 Jeffery in their rack...which is reason enough to have one.

07 February 2014, 01:20

dogcat

quote:
Originally posted by PSmith:
I have one on consignment at Champlin.

Built on a standard Mauser action by Westley Richards in 1926.

Great looking rifle.
New barrel and looks super.
How is a scope mounted on it? The "top" looks different than what I am used to looking at.

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07 February 2014, 08:47

bwanamrm

quote:
Mine is built by Jack Haugh on a 1935 Brazilian Mauser Banner standard military action, & stocked by Sterling Davenport.

An involuntary shiver just ran up my spine... would love to see that one!

And mine was built on a Classic M70 RUM by HCR.

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07 February 2014, 09:27

AfricanHunter

Mine is a LH CZ 550 Mag action. Work fine. There probably more practical cartridges in the modern times. However, the .404 has stood the test of time and still does the job.

07 February 2014, 16:54

bwana cecil

Looking at having one built off a LH Rem 700 action if I don't get my 416rm tamed down a little.

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07 February 2014, 19:01

Rusty

quote:
Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Looking at having one built off a LH Rem 700 action if I don't get my 416rm tamed down a little.

Make no mistake. You can load the 404 Jeffery up to where it can kill on both ends of the rifle! In my custom made MRC Long Action rifle at 10.5 pounds it's fun. In my lighter M 03 Mauser, it gets your attention rather quickly!

08 February 2014, 00:44

fla3006

One of the great things about the 404 is that it does not require a magnum length action. A standard length pre-war 98 Mauser is the only action I would consider.

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08 February 2014, 01:31

PSmith

quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
quote:
Originally posted by PSmith:
I have one on consignment at Champlin.

Built on a standard Mauser action by Westley Richards in 1926.

Great looking rifle.
New barrel and looks super.
How is a scope mounted on it? The "top" looks different than what I am used to looking at.

dogcat, no scope on it, was never drilled. That's bascially the reason I'm selling it; iron sights are not for me at my advanced age and I'm not gonna be the guy to drill holes in a WR/Mauser. And I need the money for Mr. Syncerus Caffer next year!

14 February 2014, 01:00

MJines

Mine was done a Oberndorf (Chilean) standard length Mauser 98 action. Feeds and functions flawlessly.

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14 February 2014, 01:51

Sean Russell

quote:
Originally posted by Swaggart:
A traditional cartridge has to be built on a traditional action.

and nothing is more traditional than M-70

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14 February 2014, 02:13

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Sean Russell:
quote:
Originally posted by Swaggart:
A traditional cartridge has to be built on a traditional action.

and nothing is more traditional than M-70

. . . unless it is a 98 action.

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14 February 2014, 03:32

Idaho Sharpshooter

All sorts of good suggestions here.

I will just say that mine is built on a VZ24 and works flawlessly.

IMHO, any CRF with a 3.6" box will work fine.

14 February 2014, 19:02

buffalo

Hi Phil.
A pity I didnt get a chance to hold and handle that rifle last fall… Maybe one day I will get the chance again…

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14 February 2014, 23:57

eagle27

That's a nice example of an opened up M98 phil. As a matter of interest how much metal has been removed from the front ramp/lower locking lug recess to fit the 404?

Like to compare with my own M98 in 404.

15 February 2014, 03:29

Sevens

I hear the M70 in a RUM chambering makes for a very easy conversion based upon the similar size of the RUM and the Jeffery casing.

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15 February 2014, 19:08

458Win

quote:
Originally posted by Palmer:
Phil that is a fantastic rifle - but no recoil pad?

Allen, This rifle of mine was one of the very first 404's that Jeffery built and they built on a standard commercial 1905 action. The 404 was the first large bore designed for bolt rifles and Jeffery was experimenting and piecing out work to many smaller shops in the area.
It was obviously designed as a working rifle and proofed for the same 400 gr bullet and 60 gr cordite as the 450/400. Even with the steel butt the recoil is not bad and no worse than a 375 of the same weight ( 8 1/2 lb)