Australia is a different kettle of fish. I can't really comment on their gun laws as each state is different and in general go from slightly stricter than us, too full on pre Nazi out west if what I see is true. But ive had no issue in getting a permit when I hunt in Victoria.

Things have changed a lot. When I sat my first licence 36 years ago, I was allowed to sit and pass the test 6 months before I was legally allowed to take possession of my licence. It arrived on my birthday.
At that stage our laws on self defence were exactly the same, and we got some rather mixed messaging from the officer who instructed us, who told us that we could not put self defence down as a reason, but if we had to shoot someone, to fire another shot into the floor as a warning shot afterwards.... Go figure.

Uk and Aus are probably suffering from the same ailment re strict firearms laws. A massive urban majority that is divorced from rural life and pastimes.
NZ has still a much stronger and probably more US minus California outlook to people using guns, and also it's very widely accepted that hunting and fishing is an important part of our food source.
We even have a minister of hunting and fishing as his portfolio in parliament with the aim to make it easier for us.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I guess I should put that limitation on each post? That it's not addressed solely to shanks?

(See how artfully I did that.)

This is one of those, You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you. Moments isn't it.

Roland, I honestly think you were bullshiting, But anyway. Keep going, you are proving me correct whatever way with this kind of behaviour.

Back to the topic on India ...

Here is an even more challenging study by Oxfam.

https://www.thehindubusinessli.../article69118202.ece

When Brits ruled the world they were good
Maybe one day Indians will rule the world
If history is any lesson, things change all the time

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Roland

How many people in the US are killed as a result of self-defence versus innocent people killed by criminals & Law enforcement?

when a post should have been a google search -- oh, wait, you used the libbie squibly phrasing of "innocent" , which in the US (of which you claim to be lord high master of all things americana) has specific meaning - persons not adjudicated to be guilty of "this" crime -- so, we'll "de-bias" the question (to appease ME) to "how many people are shot by the police (notice i didn't add any qualifers) the answer is about 950, if you don't include the huge increase under jobama
out of nearly 5 million arrests per year
950/4950000 if you need the equation laide out for you
https://www.statista.com/stati...y-us-police-by-race/



how many times are guns used in self-defense -- a conservative answer would be about 1.7million times per year
https://americangunfacts.com/g...-self-defense-stats/


as usual, you lost your argument on basis of facts

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
When Brits ruled the world they were good
Maybe one day Indians will rule the world
If history is any lesson, things change all the time

Not sure about ruling the world but they sure as hell ended up monopolizing the economies of East Africa probably to this very day and no wonder Iddi Amin decided to throw them out of Uganda overnight.

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Roland

How many people in the US are killed as a result of self-defence versus innocent people killed by criminals & Law enforcement?

I would surmise that those killed in self-defense would be in a lower scale as the attacker did not expect his intended victim to be armed.

The majority of cases involving a suspect being killed during the process of arrest was armed or violently resisting arrest.

The innocent bystanders killed by criminals were those who carried no weapon.

Lastly we have occasionally read about sporadic cases of excessive force being applied to the detriment of the suspect and even those should be taken with a pinch of salt given the media's biased reporting.

And of course the Police in India are shining examples of how a policeman should conduct himself when controlling an unruly crowd or making an arrest.

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Back to the topic on India ...

Here is an even more challenging study by Oxfam.

https://www.thehindubusinessli.../article69118202.ece

I wonder at what point you willl stop blaming the British for todays problems;ems in India.

The British empire was actually just the final example of a system of human culture that had and has existed for far longer worldwide, than any other system. Invasion and conquering was the norm in every place that humans existed.
The Vikings and later the Normans, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes were all invaders. The steppe peoples, the romans, the greeks.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Back to the topic on India ...

Here is an even more challenging study by Oxfam.

https://www.thehindubusinessli.../article69118202.ece

I wonder at what point you willl stop blaming the British for todays problems;ems in India.

The British empire was actually just the final example of a system of human culture that had and has existed for far longer worldwide, than any other system. Invasion and conquering was the norm in every place that humans existed.
The Vikings and later the Normans, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes were all invaders. The steppe peoples, the romans, the greeks.

you know it is always easier to blame others for your own issues. was used a lot by the woke world ...

This is not about blame at all.

It is about correcting the narrative with facts.

All countries have faults and problems.

The Far right is the worst in creating false narratives. The current regime in India is a great example.

Shit stirring hate mongers lie without shame.

What facts? The guy in the vid is talking about Indians from an Indian prospective. You are saying wait on, but the British.

Yet in the same post you partially agree with him. That their is a problem in India.

You missed the point Shanks.

Any country that was subjected to the Colonial yoke will always blame the colonizers for their misdeeds or failures even many decades later.

Somehow its always the British getting the short end of the stick as nobody ever mentions the Portuguese or Germans.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Why the US wants to keep upping our population by millions every year boggles the mind. All one has to do is look to China and India to get an idea of what’s to come.

If you didn’t get all those brainy immigrants, you would be living Dodgers City of 1895!

Practically all tech advancement wouldn’t have happened in Silicon Valley if it wasn’t for them!

Do you honestly expect any common sense, INTELLIGENCE, in people who have a fight in picking their rulers??

Kamala and Trump?

Again, complete and total lack of insight and education in how self rule works. Easy to throw stones when you live under family/blood autocratic society and are part of that system.

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Originally posted by fulvio:
You missed the point Shanks.

Any country that was subjected to the Colonial yoke will always blame the colonizers for their misdeeds or failures even many decades later.

Somehow its always the British getting the short end of the stick as nobody ever mentions the Portuguese or Germans.

let alone the frenchs and they were in india as well ... ever heard of pondicherry lol