As many here in the African Hunting Forum are aware I have gotten my self crossways with one of the resident booking agents here on AR as a result of my bird-dogging him over a hunt that he had advertised in the Discounted Hunts Forum. The same hunt was offered for sale to me, and other forum members, by two other well known agents for $6,000 less than the price at which it was advertised here, I questioned this and asked for a straight answer.

I am, in reality, a rather infamous former member named Chipolopolo. Saeed agreed to my coming back to the forums and participating, albeit under another handle because of my former notoriety, provided I behaved myself and contributed to the forums, which, on both counts, I believe I have done.

I am outing myself as the former Chipolopolo because the booking agent in question has figured out my true identity and in a PM to me has made a veiled threat to out me to the forum in retaliation to my questioning the hunt that he advertised. This is not something that I want to do as Saeed was adamant that I NOT come back as Chipolopolo, and I have tried to abide by his wishes, but I now see it as my having little choice but to fess up as to my real identity. Saeed has stated here many times that private messages are to remain just that, private, so I will not post the contents of Greg's PM to me but it is there for Saeed or the Moderators to read if they wish.



Nganga (Steve)

Welcome back. Let's see, buddies with Garby, a love of Zambia, it's PHs, and Mark Sullivan. The only thing missing was a PHC thread. I PMd a long time member a couple of days ago and asked him if he thought it was you.

Now is Cane Rat really Andy?

What does your former handle mean?

And yes I do spend too much time on here.

Mike Thanks,
Chipolopolo is a song sung by the "guys" in most sub-saharan African countries after a successful hunt for sitatunga, lion and leopard. Its rough translation is "The Bullet Has Won the Day"

And nice deductive reasoning

And Thanks, Cane Rat? I couldn't say if its Drook. (just don't know)

The Chipolopolo handle pre-dates me, but I've enjoyed your contributions to this point.

Welcome.

Steve,

You hit the ground running, no doubt about that. Can't seem to remember the ban, but only that you usually took a contrarian view well articulated.

Welcome back.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike70560:
Welcome back. Let's see, buddies with Garby, a love of Zambia, it's PHs, and Mark Sullivan. The only thing missing was a PHC thread. I PMd a long time member a couple of days ago and asked him if he thought it was you.

Now is Cane Rat really Andy?

What does your former handle mean?

And yes I do spend too much time on here.

BTW, check out the K gun in the jumbo pic.

Nganga (steve)

I saw that and was thinking anybody with a Krieghoff cannot be all bad.

quote:

Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
The Chipolopolo handle pre-dates me, but I've enjoyed your contributions to this point.

Welcome.

I don't remember anything "Chipolopolo" said, so guess you didn't offend me. Welcome back "Nganga"

"...Saeed has stated here many times that private messages are to remain just that, private, so I will not post the contents of Greg's PM to me but it is there for Saeed or the Moderators to read if they wish..."

This is not true, as we have no access to PMs between members, unless they include us in their recepients.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
"...Saeed has stated here many times that private messages are to remain just that, private, so I will not post the contents of Greg's PM to me but it is there for Saeed or the Moderators to read if they wish..."

This is not true, as we have no access to PMs between members, unless they include us in their recepients.

Saeed,
I stand corrected, I will send it to you if you wish to see it.

Nganga

Welcome back.

I dont take sides or have an axe to grind in this debate ...

All I ask a one simple straight question.

What is the raason for any member to hide or not want fellow guests to know whom he or she really is in a public forum?

Cheers, Peter

Welcome back!!

I saw the pics of your trophy room and it is to die for! How impressive. Let's hear the stories of some of those hunts.

quote:

Originally posted by Balla Balla:
I dont take sides or have an axe to grind in this debate ...

All I ask a one simple straight question.

What is the raason for any member to hide or not want fellow guests to know whom he or she really is in a public forum?

Cheers, Peter

Peter,

I think he is saying that he was banned previously as Chipolopolo and was let back on under a new a new name. In my opinion he is being quite honest and up front and should be received back as a welcomed member.

Don't take offense please but who realy is Balla Balla? Do you disagree?

quote:

Originally posted by Balla Balla:
I dont take sides or have an axe to grind in this debate ...

All I ask a one simple straight question.

What is the raason for any member to hide or not want fellow guests to know whom he or she really is in a public forum?

Cheers, Peter

Peter,

Sadly, some people still believe in anonymity on the Internet.

The reality, though, far from that.

Anytime, anyone, uses a computer to access the Internet, he leaves footprints, which lead straight back to them.

Sometimes it takes no more than a few minutes to track a poster. Others might take a day or two.

But, no one can actually hide on the Internet.

quote:

Originally posted by Balla Balla:
I dont take sides or have an axe to grind in this debate ...

All I ask a one simple straight question.

What is the raason for any member to hide or not want fellow guests to know whom he or she really is in a public forum?

Cheers, Peter

Peter,
As Dark Continent stated, my behavior was.......well, less than gentlemanly, too much profanity, picking on easy targets, and I desevredly got the chop. Saeed allowed me back but not as the same screen name. So there was no intended avoidance of the truth. Just staying away from that name.

Steve

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Balla Balla:
I dont take sides or have an axe to grind in this debate ...

All I ask a one simple straight question.

What is the raason for any member to hide or not want fellow guests to know whom he or she really is in a public forum?

Cheers, Peter

Peter,

Sadly, some people still believe in anonymity on the Internet.

The reality, though, far from that.

Anytime, anyone, uses a computer to access the Internet, he leaves footprints, which lead straight back to them.

Sometimes it takes no more than a few minutes to track a poster. Others might take a day or two.

But, no one can actually hide on the Internet.

I also could have just assumed an identity as something else, I was honest with Saeed. Fairgame who knows me personally put a good word in for me with Saeed as well.

Steve

quote:

Originally posted by Robert Wilde:
Welcome back!!

I saw the pics of your trophy room and it is to die for! How impressive. Let's hear the stories of some of those hunts.

+1
That is one really nice trophy room!

quote:

Originally posted by RBHunt:

quote:

Originally posted by Robert Wilde:
Welcome back!!

I saw the pics of your trophy room and it is to die for! How impressive. Let's hear the stories of some of those hunts.

+1
That is one really nice trophy room!

Again, all thanks, my trophy room represents the passion I put into my hunting and my life in general. I race bicycles as well and you only get out of it what you are willing to put into it.

Steve

Well, I'll be damned. Just goes to show you that when someone sincerely changes and behaves, and you don't know who they are, that you seem to lose all of the prior ill will and prejudices that you had. Does this mean that 500 grains, if he repents, will be resurrected on AR too?

Apologies in advance, but what prompted the change in behavior? Why the churlish attitude during your first go-around?

Not trying to psycho-analyze or be invasive, (I'll never argue over the ability of someone to change their ways) but just interested as to why you've decided to return and with a different outlook.

I'll tell you exactly why. I have a fair amount of African and North American experience. I met Garby over in Zambia in 2008 in Johnny duPlooy's camp. Gary told me about this forum. I guess I expected to be accepted immediately, didn't need to get to know my way around and allow others to get to know me.

I assumed I would be looked up to? I saw that I have no more experience than many many other posters here. I guess I just needed to mature a bit?

That being said, I do in fact have an odd sense of humour and really never meant any of that stuff. Like the Capstick Stuff, in reality I really really like PHC and he got me there as well, it was just to damn tempting sometimes to just "push buttons".

But when I got banned I really sort of missed the interaction and conversing with many of you about the true passion of my life.

Does that make sense?

Steve

Steve,
Good to have you back. As others have already written, WOW what a trophy room. Thanks not only for sharing, but for answering several of my questions.
Mike

Mike,
Any help I can offer.

I really, really appreciate all the kind words and truly have learned a valuable lesson about life from this forum.

Steve

all we need now is for your bosom buddy addrook to make a return appearance and the circle of life will be complete. i thought the resurrection was celebrated in April.

Nganga: You don't know me from Adam, but I do remember your previous postings, and would still like to welcome you back to the forum also. I have been a reader on here for quite a while, a poster for a much shorter one, and always believed if I didn't have something constructive to offer, I would stay silent. "Pushing someone's button" as you called it has never been my style, but may tickle others fancies.

Love to continue to hear of your experiences, and also appreciate the passion you have put into the sport, as evidenced by your trophy room pics. You look to have a lot to offer.

Welcome back.

What Saeed and others have created here is something worth while. AR is fast becoming an icon in hunting.

I for one look forward to your valued contributions and debates.

Could you send me the PM in question?

Dang Andrew,
Don't you ever sleep?
Steve

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
Dang Andrew,
Don't you ever sleep?
Steve

Sleep is for children.

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:
all we need now is for your bosom buddy addrook to make a return appearance and the circle of life will be complete. i thought the resurrection was celebrated in April.

Born again?

Steve-

I didn't care much for your previous incarnation.
You have been prolific in your postings since your return, and pretty decent as well. If you choose your associates better this time, then I welcome your contributions.

The "Old Chip" never offended me in any way shape or form. In fact I found him highly entertaining and informative. Some guys on this forum just need to toughen up.

The new fellow isn't doing a bad job either.

Let's have a double resurrection and bring back another good guy, the inimitable, hugely knowledgeable and all round great guy "500 grains".

Things have not been the same since he departed our screens, we are indeed all the poorer as a result of his enforced exile.

I look forward to his "second coming", how ever messy it may be.

Steve,

You fooled me and other than Andrew I guess I know you better than any of the other members. I knew I'd seen that lion and sable someplace before!!!!!

Welcome back.

Mark

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
I'll tell you exactly why. I have a fair amount of African and North American experience. I met Garby over in Zambia in 2008 in Johnny duPlooy's camp. Gary told me about this forum. I guess I expected to be accepted immediately, didn't need to get to know my way around and allow others to get to know me.

I assumed I would be looked up to? I saw that I have no more experience than many many other posters here. I guess I just needed to mature a bit?

That being said, I do in fact have an odd sense of humour and really never meant any of that stuff. Like the Capstick Stuff, in reality I really really like PHC and he got me there as well, it was just to damn tempting sometimes to just "push buttons".

But when I got banned I really sort of missed the interaction and conversing with many of you about the true passion of my life.

Does that make sense?

Steve

I thought "Chipo" must be an a-hole. And a waste of time too. But this seems honest. Hope it stays that way.

Now for the encore, where is 500 Grains?

JPK

Steve,
If you can put up with Andrew...and...Andrew can put up with you...you MUST be alright!!! Welcome the Hell back!

I have always liked your posts. And...I have been thru the political part of AR as well.

Again welcome back!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
Mike,
Any help I can offer.

I really, really appreciate all the kind words and truly have learned a valuable lesson about life from this forum.

Steve

I guess I missed the trophy room pictures. What are they under?

quote:

Originally posted by JPK:

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
I'll tell you exactly why. I have a fair amount of African and North American experience. I met Garby over in Zambia in 2008 in Johnny duPlooy's camp. Gary told me about this forum. I guess I expected to be accepted immediately, didn't need to get to know my way around and allow others to get to know me.

I assumed I would be looked up to? I saw that I have no more experience than many many other posters here. I guess I just needed to mature a bit?

That being said, I do in fact have an odd sense of humour and really never meant any of that stuff. Like the Capstick Stuff, in reality I really really like PHC and he got me there as well, it was just to damn tempting sometimes to just "push buttons".

But when I got banned I really sort of missed the interaction and conversing with many of you about the true passion of my life.

Does that make sense?

Steve

I thought "Chipo" must be an a-hole. And a waste of time too. But this seems honest. Hope it stays that way.

Now for the encore, where is 500 Grains?

JPK

John,
Thanks..I think

quote:

Originally posted by AfricanHunter:

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
Mike,
Any help I can offer.

I really, really appreciate all the kind words and truly have learned a valuable lesson about life from this forum.

Steve

I guess I missed the trophy room pictures. What are they under?

AfricanHunter,
They are in the Trophy Room forum.

Steve

Wow, didn't know you could be banned...

I've never had a problem with you mr. Nganga...there's should be a soap opera considering the drama thats on this forum. Seriously! "I was threatened with being outed!" How funny, Nganga, I think you were totally within your right to question that Mnt Nyala hunt...things were a little fishy.

Now, that being said, I think a guy can post a hunt for whatever he wants, if he wants a 100k for an impala, so be it...you or I don't have to hunt with him. But that's the free market, if someone wants to, that's their business.

Everyone's got to get paid!

Maybe I just have too good a memory,, or maybe you just struck too many nerves in my spine to forget but I do remember your posts on Peter Capstick,, Craig Boddington,, and your alliance with adrook etc. It is not my concern whether Saeed allows you back on this forum,,It is his decision and his alone to make that judgement. I respect Saeed's decision. I hope you stay true to your promise to Saeed and keep your comments on the level they have remained since you returned. I can learn a great deal from your experiences,, and you too can benefit from those on here as well. It is real easy to take shots at easy targets on an internet forum,, much easier than in person,,, when that post button is pushed,,,it is hard to un post unkind comments. You get the benefit of Saeed giving you a second chance so not that you should care but you get the same second chance with me.

Welcome back