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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
bobbie,

Fawn killers do have a different value than Big Game. That's why they put a bounty on them, have funds allocated to control them, and regularly shoot the hell out of them from helicopters. If you put equal value on the two, you have more important problems going on in your head than stringing a recurve backwards.

The story of this one I shot, recovered and finished at 934 yards is your "go to" attack. It's tired.

My Sponsor at Browning is a coyote hunting maniac. He's turned down Big Game hunts to go on hot calling trips. Browning also is a leader in the wolf war being waged in our Rocky Mountain west.

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Originally posted by Phil N:
One shot and the animal is dead. That is a fact. Everything else after that is merely opinion.

Nice deer BTW.

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
My younger brother took this Mulie this last week with a 6.5 Grendel he built him self. Shooting Precision Firearms Ammo, loaded with the Nolser 120gr Ballistic Tip's in brass head stamped 6.5-LBC. The ammo is incredibly accurate out of his 16" M4 contour Alexander Arms barrel. The 2-7X Vortex scope with the BDC matches the ballistic of this load almost perfectly. The shot was broadside at 493 yards, he had a little more wind drift than anticipated and the bullet impacted center of the lungs about 6 inches out of the pocket. The ballistic tip did not hit a rib going in and completely passed through the buck at this distance.The buck tried to keep his feet under him for 30 seconds or so before he went down.

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Originally posted by Phil N:
One shot and the animal is dead. That is a fact. Everything else after that is merely opinion.

Nice deer BTW.

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Originally posted by The Slug:
.. I will say that to me animal suffering is not any more acceptable for one species over another.

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Originally posted by Trax:

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Originally posted by The Slug:
.. I will say that to me animal suffering is not any more acceptable for one species over another.

+1

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Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
rcamuglia wrote:

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They value a mule deer buck or a bull elk as much as a steel plate

...or about as much as YOU value a coyote (shooting it with a caliber/bullet inadequate for the range and wounding it in the arse). If you don't agree with Smack's bother's shot, that's fine, but that also means the shot you took must have been ill-advised and nothing more than a stunt as well, right?

You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
bobbie,

Fawn killers do have a different value than Big Game. That's why they put a bounty on them, have funds allocated to control them, and regularly shoot the hell out of them from helicopters. If you put equal value on the two, you have more important problems going on in your head than stringing a recurve backwards.

The story of this one I shot, recovered and finished at 934 yards is your "go to" attack. It's tired.

My Sponsor at Browning is a coyote hunting maniac. He's turned down Big Game hunts to go on hot calling trips. Browning also is a leader in the wolf war being waged in our Rocky Mountain west.

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Fawn killers do have a different value than Big Game.

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Originally posted by Trax:

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Fawn killers do have a different value than Big Game.

That would depend.
there are times when BigGame animals are culled in large numbers, just like any other considered pest.
http://www.redstaghuntingnewzealand.com/history.php

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Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
Gatogordo wrote:

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Why all the bullshit? It seems obvious to me that if someone doesn't like a certain cartridge for a certain application then they shouldn't and won't use it. That's their choice. Other's choices may differ. Assuming legality, it's none of their frigging business as far as I'm concerned.

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+1. I couldn't agree more. My only issue here is the double standard one of the posters seems to think he deserves. He thinks it's perfectly fine for him to take a 930 yard shot on a coyote and shoot it in the arse, wounding it, with a .24 caliber bullet that is only traveling at 1330 fps and does not expand at that range.

Yet he takes exception -- compusively posting dozens of times in a blatant hijack of someone else's thread -- to another individual who shoots and CLEANLY KILLS a game animal with a gun/load that obviously proved up to the task.

To those who possess even the slightest bit of logic and reasoning ability, such actions -- not to mention the intermittent personal attacks -- are not only disrespectful but serve as the quintessential stamp of hypocrisy.

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Originally posted by YJ-4BT:

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Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
Gatogordo wrote:

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Why all the bullshit? It seems obvious to me that if someone doesn't like a certain cartridge for a certain application then they shouldn't and won't use it. That's their choice. Other's choices may differ. Assuming legality, it's none of their frigging business as far as I'm concerned.

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+1. I couldn't agree more. My only issue here is the double standard one of the posters seems to think he deserves. He thinks it's perfectly fine for him to take a 930 yard shot on a coyote and shoot it in the arse, wounding it, with a .24 caliber bullet that is only traveling at 1330 fps and does not expand at that range.

Yet he takes exception -- compusively posting dozens of times in a blatant hijack of someone else's thread -- to another individual who shoots and CLEANLY KILLS a game animal with a gun/load that obviously proved up to the task.

To those who possess even the slightest bit of logic and reasoning ability, such actions -- not to mention the intermittent personal attacks -- are not only disrespectful but serve as the quintessential stamp of hypocrisy.

x2
I just can't stand people that insist on Hijacking threads, regardless of being right or wrong.

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
I'm sorry to have to report this, but I would feel untrue to myself, the board, and the truth if I didn't.

I'm sure trax, LOSS, bt, jwp475C3pOxyz and the balance will be quite happy to hear it.

I just received a call from Browning Arms.

Pardon me...I've got to regain my composure..sorry...aahemmm

Without my knowledge either someone here has ratted me out or they have been monitoring this thread. I've been slapped with a reprimand and have been reined in.

There has been an unprecedented drop in sales since jwp475C3pOxyz's post and the coming to the forefront of my disdain for God's creations, namely, the coyote and the dung beetle.

The massive drop in sales is strictly limited to the A-Bolt and X-Bolt line of rifles chambered for varmint cartridges, and other Browning-produced varmint related hunting products...the very products that the proponents of weenie calibers for Long Range Deer/Elk purchase. Nail files and pen knives for gutting, etc...as well.

I hope you're satisfied.

I've also been vehemently warned about standing up for what I might think is right and ethical, especially if it effects sales even though it may reflect the views of management and staff. I've been reminded to "hold my finger to the wind" before I speak, just like your favorite politician. (More than likely a liberal demoncat who makes decisions based on feeeelings). As you know, sponsored shooters are nothing but a mouthpiece for the company.

I've been ordered to change my official position on this subject if I want to stay in good standing.

So here you are...


Congratulations on a fine shot. You are the man. Please tell me more about your rifle. I could never do that nor would I try. You have done a lot of practice. Balistic reticles laser range finders make hitting at longer ranges a lot easier then in the past. Good shot, nice buck, put a bullet through a deers lungs and they don't go far. At that range they don't even react to the sound of the shot. Tell the other spoil sports to "F" off. They do this sort of thing in about every post these days. Excellent shooting,Excellent deer, and Excellent rifle. Take these whining bitches with a grain of salt. They don't shoot past their 100 yard urban range. It is all hunting until it is time to pull the trigger then it is all shooting after that. Impressive. Well done. You were well trained for the shot and properly equipped. I would like to have tried it. Great deer, great shot no matter what anyone says. I would never take a shot like that, simply because I am NOT capable of making it! I sure don't try to denigrate others that can. Holes kill things. I figure if a 5.56 Nato cartridge is good enough for a terrorist at any given distance then a 6.5 Grendel and a 120gr Ballistic Tip is sure good enough for a Mulie at 493 yards but then again most in their right minds have more respect for the Mulie. If it does the job, then it is obviously adequate. That's a no brainer. Continue doing what you're doing. There are seriously some weak individuals in this world. " You can't do that!, you shouldn't do that!" Oh really, I just frikn did. So how about that? Only ignorance precludes it, which is seemingly more than enough. Stick your nose in your books and read what other have done, I don't have time for it. Due to the fact I'm out in the field doing it. Three types of people in this world, those that make it happen, those that watch it happen and those that read about it all and run their SUCKS on open forums. I intentionally ran a Coyote down on a KTM 620 once. Took three good passes but the end results were as good as any .243 Win/ V-Max combo I have seen. Our marksmanship skills are well schooled and well practiced, way beond the average hunter. just because many are not comfortable at such distances doesn't give youe the right to condem others that are more than capable. YOU FEAR WHAT YOU DON"T KNOW OR CAN"T ACCOMPLISH. Looking forward to " The circle jerk, armchair team's" replies. No! you were being proved a total dumb ass and this is a desperate attempt to save whats left of your pathetic smart ass, ass. LAGHING!!!! And another moron joins the group.



Blah, blah, blah, blah... I have read 50 plus posts of this long winded crap. I didn't even read the first two lines of your post before I posted this, bla, bla, bla....

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
I'm sorry to have to report this, but I would feel untrue to myself, the board, and the truth if I didn't.

I'm sure trax, LOSS, bt, jwp475C3pOxyz and the balance will be quite happy to hear it.

I just received a call from Browning Arms.

Pardon me...I've got to regain my composure..sorry...aahemmm

Without my knowledge either someone here has ratted me out or they have been monitoring this thread. I've been slapped with a reprimand and have been reined in.

There has been an unprecedented drop in sales since jwp475C3pOxyz's post and the coming to the forefront of my disdain for God's creations, namely, the coyote and the dung beetle.

The massive drop in sales is strictly limited to the A-Bolt and X-Bolt line of rifles chambered for varmint cartridges, and other Browning-produced varmint related hunting products...the very products that the proponents of weenie calibers for Long Range Deer/Elk purchase. Nail files and pen knives for gutting, etc...as well.

I hope you're satisfied.

I've also been vehemently warned about standing up for what I might think is right and ethical, especially if it effects sales even though it may reflect the views of management and staff. I've been reminded to "hold my finger to the wind" before I speak, just like your favorite politician. (More than likely a liberal demoncat who makes decisions based on feeeelings). As you know, sponsored shooters are nothing but a mouthpiece for the company.

I've been ordered to change my official position on this subject if I want to stay in good standing.

So here you are...


Congratulations on a fine shot. You are the man. Please tell me more about your rifle. I could never do that nor would I try. You have done a lot of practice. Balistic reticles laser range finders make hitting at longer ranges a lot easier then in the past. Good shot, nice buck, put a bullet through a deers lungs and they don't go far. At that range they don't even react to the sound of the shot. Tell the other spoil sports to "F" off. They do this sort of thing in about every post these days. Excellent shooting,Excellent deer, and Excellent rifle. Take these whining bitches with a grain of salt. They don't shoot past their 100 yard urban range. It is all hunting until it is time to pull the trigger then it is all shooting after that. Impressive. Well done. You were well trained for the shot and properly equipped. I would like to have tried it. Great deer, great shot no matter what anyone says. I would never take a shot like that, simply because I am NOT capable of making it! I sure don't try to denigrate others that can. Holes kill things. I figure if a 5.56 Nato cartridge is good enough for a terrorist at any given distance then a 6.5 Grendel and a 120gr Ballistic Tip is sure good enough for a Mulie at 493 yards but then again most in their right minds have more respect for the Mulie. If it does the job, then it is obviously adequate. That's a no brainer. Continue doing what you're doing. There are seriously some weak individuals in this world. " You can't do that!, you shouldn't do that!" Oh really, I just frikn did. So how about that? Only ignorance precludes it, which is seemingly more than enough. Stick your nose in your books and read what other have done, I don't have time for it. Due to the fact I'm out in the field doing it. Three types of people in this world, those that make it happen, those that watch it happen and those that read about it all and run their SUCKS on open forums. I intentionally ran a Coyote down on a KTM 620 once. Took three good passes but the end results were as good as any .243 Win/ V-Max combo I have seen. Our marksmanship skills are well schooled and well practiced, way beond the average hunter. just because many are not comfortable at such distances doesn't give youe the right to condem others that are more than capable. YOU FEAR WHAT YOU DON"T KNOW OR CAN"T ACCOMPLISH. Looking forward to " The circle jerk, armchair team's" replies. No! you were being proved a total dumb ass and this is a desperate attempt to save whats left of your pathetic smart ass, ass. LAGHING!!!! And another moron joins the group.

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
You really need to seek psychiatric help. PTSS?

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
You really need to seek psychiatric help. PTSS?

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
Seriously,

I think we've gotten to know each other alright over the last week.

I'm worried about you

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Smack,

There is nothing on this subject that I have posted that isn't true. What isn't? The rules for holding off in the wind? Maybe some guys here can break the rules of physics, but it sure ain't me.

You are right. I should stick to magazine articles. At least I get paid for my time, which I must confess isn't a lot - but each piece buys a new rifle if you throw in the writer's discount. And it is a nice break from running my software company, which pays the bills for the hunting I do. What do you get for all your effort here?

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
The song won't play on my phone.

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
I'm sorry to have to report this, but I would feel untrue to myself, the board, and the truth if I didn't.

I'm sure trax, LOSS, bt, jwp475C3pOxyz and the balance will be quite happy to hear it.

I just received a call from Browning Arms.

Pardon me...I've got to regain my composure..sorry...aahemmm

Without my knowledge either someone here has ratted me out or they have been monitoring this thread. I've been slapped with a reprimand and have been reined in.

There has been an unprecedented drop in sales since jwp475C3pOxyz's post and the coming to the forefront of my disdain for God's creations, namely, the coyote and the dung beetle.

The massive drop in sales is strictly limited to the A-Bolt and X-Bolt line of rifles chambered for varmint cartridges, and other Browning-produced varmint related hunting products...the very products that the proponents of weenie calibers for Long Range Deer/Elk purchase. Nail files and pen knives for gutting, etc...as well.

I hope you're satisfied.

I've also been vehemently warned about standing up for what I might think is right and ethical, especially if it effects sales even though it may reflect the views of management and staff. I've been reminded to "hold my finger to the wind" before I speak, just like your favorite politician. (More than likely a liberal demoncat who makes decisions based on feeeelings). As you know, sponsored shooters are nothing but a mouthpiece for the company.

I've been ordered to change my official position on this subject if I want to stay in good standing.

So here you are...


Congratulations on a fine shot. You are the man. Please tell me more about your rifle. I could never do that nor would I try. You have done a lot of practice. Balistic reticles laser range finders make hitting at longer ranges a lot easier then in the past. Good shot, nice buck, put a bullet through a deers lungs and they don't go far. At that range they don't even react to the sound of the shot. Tell the other spoil sports to "F" off. They do this sort of thing in about every post these days. Excellent shooting,Excellent deer, and Excellent rifle. Take these whining bitches with a grain of salt. They don't shoot past their 100 yard urban range. It is all hunting until it is time to pull the trigger then it is all shooting after that. Impressive. Well done. You were well trained for the shot and properly equipped. I would like to have tried it. Great deer, great shot no matter what anyone says. I would never take a shot like that, simply because I am NOT capable of making it! I sure don't try to denigrate others that can. Holes kill things. I figure if a 5.56 Nato cartridge is good enough for a terrorist at any given distance then a 6.5 Grendel and a 120gr Ballistic Tip is sure good enough for a Mulie at 493 yards but then again most in their right minds have more respect for the Mulie. If it does the job, then it is obviously adequate. That's a no brainer. Continue doing what you're doing. There are seriously some weak individuals in this world. " You can't do that!, you shouldn't do that!" Oh really, I just frikn did. So how about that? Only ignorance precludes it, which is seemingly more than enough. Stick your nose in your books and read what other have done, I don't have time for it. Due to the fact I'm out in the field doing it. Three types of people in this world, those that make it happen, those that watch it happen and those that read about it all and run their SUCKS on open forums. I intentionally ran a Coyote down on a KTM 620 once. Took three good passes but the end results were as good as any .243 Win/ V-Max combo I have seen. Our marksmanship skills are well schooled and well practiced, way beond the average hunter. just because many are not comfortable at such distances doesn't give youe the right to condem others that are more than capable. YOU FEAR WHAT YOU DON"T KNOW OR CAN"T ACCOMPLISH. Looking forward to " The circle jerk, armchair team's" replies. No! you were being proved a total dumb ass and this is a desperate attempt to save whats left of your pathetic smart ass, ass. LAGHING!!!! And another moron joins the group.

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Originally posted by Hot Core:
So you were a SWAB JOCKEY! Us guys in the CORPS certainly appreciated you all toting us around where ever we wanted to go. And especially all those nice clean decks for us to leave Black Heel Marks on.
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you are a number one first class prick. I appreciate a man that wants to be the best and you have acchieved first class status, congradulations

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:

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you are a number one first class prick. I appreciate a man that wants to be the best and you have acchieved first class status, congradulations

Cute pointy hat you have on!

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
It is pointless to argue with a guy who thinks 6 inches of wind drift on an animal is something to brag about or one who thinks the correct hold for a "quartering" wind is 1/4 the full value. Man, that last one is pure physics.

Had a great time shooting last night at 750 and 700 yards. Held .7 milrads for wind to hit and hit 2 inches left of where I was aiming. At 700 I shot two calibers; one I held .5 mrads and hit my 3 inch cirlce, and the other was 4 inches to the right. Shot another just to confirm that wild shot and it hit an inch to the right and two inches low.

You guys have a nice day. When you shoot something big enough to mount, let me know. Or did you mount those dinky bucks and does?

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Originally posted by jwp475:

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:

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you are a number one first class prick. I appreciate a man that wants to be the best and you have acchieved first class status, congradulations

Cute pointy hat you have on!

Oh oh, the spelling police have arrived! But what's most important when it comes to knowing whether a cartridge is adequate or not for the task at hand, that little funnel-shaped paper hat you wear is appropriate.

No more Browning Hydro-Fleece for me, thanks to you and your brilliant public relations.

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originally posted by AnotherAZWriter..
It is pointless to argue with a guy who thinks 6 inches of wind drift on an animal is something to brag about or one who thinks the correct hold for a "quartering" wind is 1/4 the full value. Man, that last one is pure physics.

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Had a great time shooting last night at 750 and 700 yards. Held .7 milrads for wind to hit and hit 2 inches left of where I was aiming. At 700 I shot two calibers; one I held .5 mrads and hit my 3 inch cirlce, and the other was 4 inches to the right. Shot another just to confirm that wild shot and it hit an inch to the right and two inches low.

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Originally posted by peterdk:
pee wee caliber and sniping, i thought this were the american big game hunting forum
apparently not.

have a good day

peter

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Originally posted by OLBIKER:

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Originally posted by peterdk:
pee wee caliber and sniping, i thought this were the american big game hunting forum
apparently not.

have a good day

peter

Its actually The Pissing Contest Forum.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
What was your MOS, Hot Core?