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Been thinking a while on this one... 257 Roberts or 6.5CM light bolt action for distance 30-30 or 35 Remington lever action close up. 35 Whelen or 350 Rigby classy svelte bolt action all rounder pounder. Different terrains, quarry and distances will affect your decisions 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I currently have a couple of options to fit this ??? 257 Roberts Kimber Montana 7mm-08 Kimber Montana 338-06 Rebored SS model 70 Winchester. 7x57 Mark X Mauser 30-30 Marlin 336A 9.3x62 Mark X Mauser I think either combo works pretty well. Of course I have my Classic model 70 Featherweight to do it all if necessary. 30-06 of course. Les | |||
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An exercise in futility, but a 7x57, 30-06 and a 375 H&H would be an option world wide. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Real use where guys actually hunt. The problem with this thread is, are guys just throwing out three 'theoretical' medium-bore cartridges for Africa, Alaska, or the lower 48? Or, do their selections reflect the cartridges they actually hunt with in places where they hunt with a rifle? "Only accurate rifles are interesting." | |||
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Well, while Alaska is not in the continental US, it is still the US. A lot of people in Alaska use the same guns for hunting as used in the lower-48 states, from the .270 and smaller to the .375 H& and larger. If you include the big bears most hunters tend to pick the larger calibers, but otherwise all kinds of smaller guns are used. | |||
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What is "real hunting?" I have shot more animals in Africa than the US, but I hunt the US as well, including deer on my own in MN. For that, I use a .308 Win. My fav med bores are 28 Nosler, .308 Win, 300 RUM, .338 Win (great elk cartridge), and .338 Edge/Lapuas. | |||
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25-06 30-06 375 H&H | |||
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Another very useful (3) rifle battery! 25-06---Antelope/deer 30-06---Elk, Moose, Bear, etc. 375 H&H--Big Bear, large PG, Lion, Buffalo, etc. Would prefer 40+ caliber for Buffalo, but I've taken several with my 375H&H, so would do so again. The 375 falls out of the medium bore category for the AR definition, but for those who consider it a medium, then this works! | |||
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Good points. I use a .338WM for all my hunting in Alaska, other than birds or course. For birds such as grouse I use either a .22LR pistol with a red dot sight, or a .22-caliber bolt action rifle loaded with either .22 Short or .22LR. I imagine that I could use a .270, or a 30-06 for all my big game hunting, but I figured long ago that the .338WM was perfect for my hunting from caribou to moose and any other Alaska game I can think of. There are lots of .33-caliber bullets to choose from (heavy to lightweight plus soft to hard). The .338 was introduced to the market as "The Alaskan" for good reasons. | |||
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For north America 7X57 7X57 7X57. My .270W, .280 Rem.308, or .30-'06 will do the same job. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I think mine would be 7-08, 336/06 and a 358 Winchester but I never would limit myself to 3 rifles Member NRA, NFA,CSSA,DSC,SCI,AFGA | |||
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Easy. 270 Win 338 Win Mag Done +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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270 Weatherby Mag .30-06 338 Winchester Mag That's it ... Best Regards, Craig Nolan | |||
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This.^^^^^^^. | |||
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Looking in the safe today, I realize I have 5 rifles in my favorite cartridge the 30-06. So,how about this 3 gun battery? Merkel K1 30-06 Rigby Highland Stalker 30-06 Merkel Double Rifle 30-06 Safe shooting....L | |||
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A fairly good pick.....however I's like to add another thought.....how about a .30-06 and another .30-06 and for the third pick, yet, another ..30-06.....it's just that good! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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375er has a great combo that are well separated for power and usability and that will cover everything. 25-06 with 24" barrel for smaller and long range shooting, 30-06 for everything in NA and plains game and 375 H&H for DG the world over. | |||
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257 Roberts 7mm Rem mag 358 Norma With those 3 I can comfortably hunt all of North America. | |||
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6.5 30-06 375 H&H Belted or Flanged DRSS | |||
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I've never liked the original Winchester Magnum series of cartridges from a prejudice against the .300 Winchester Magnum which usurped IMHO the much better designed .308 Norma Magnum. Yet I have to say that the .338 Winchester Magnum is a "classic" in all respects. If I ever had need for a medium bore firing a bullet of 250 grains it'd be my first choice always. As to smaller sizes below that I've had them these .243 WCF, 6mm Remington, .270 WCF, 7x64, .280 Remington, .30-06, 8x57, 8x60S, 9x57. Of them my prejudice would be to 6mm Remington and .30-06 if I was OK with anything between 100 grains up to 180 grains but if I wanted heavier to favour the 196 grain loaded 8x60S. But in truth there isn't much that 6mm Remington and .30-06 won't handle even though in the 196 and 227 grain weights the 8x60S does it more elegantly! | |||
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……………………………………...Absolutely!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I like 6.5mm as a light rifle, and a .375 Wby/H&H would be my pick for a heavy (not stopper) rifle, so i’d probably have most use for a fast open country 7mm as my medium. Since I’d be allowed another two mediums, I’d have a .30-06 for driven boar and a pre-war Mauser .303, .350 or 9,3x62 | |||
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I am sure those choices would work well for you. I personally like having different rifles and different cartridges. Few that I don't like. I am also fond of many that have the magnum designation. I suppose 3 for me without the magnum designation would be: 270 Winchester 30-06 338-06 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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7X57 - 7MM/08 .300 Weatherby .340 Weatherby/.375 Weatherby if Africa is available | |||
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If stuck with only 3, this is good. | |||
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OMG y 308 stainless bolt gun ... 223 bolt gun, and a heavy, with a stainless 45lc wheel gun opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I've read a lot of these posts and if I had to do it withing the specs. of all medium bores it would be .270, 338 Win Mag, and just for giggles a .35 Whelen. But I just couldn't do it in real life without a small bore in the mix. So lets say a .223, .270, .338 Win Mag. DW | |||
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 I think we agree. For small bore a 223 is compatible with the above, though a 243Win or 257Bob give more overlap and coverage for medium game.
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22-250 7mm Remington Magnum 338 Winchester Magnum | |||
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I’ve settled on the 35 Whelen for my top end medium bore. I’m going to have Hill Country Rifles put together a left handed Whelen on a stainless Remington action with a McMillan stock. It seems like it’s hard to beat a 225 grain accubond or partition (with a SD of .251) traveling at 2700 fps. Especially considering that a 165 grain bullet out of a 30-06 (SD of .248) travels at 2800 fps. I think the Whelen will be perfect for large plains game, elk, moose, and bear. I haven’t made a decision yet on the “small” medium bore that I’ll use for deer, sheep, and pronghorn. Still leaning towards the 7mm-08, but the 280AI has my attention. | |||
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I've had very good luck with my .350 RM (same velocities as the Whelen) shooting 225gr Nosler Partitions on large northern Canadian black bears. None have ever needed more than one shot and all went down right now. Unless a flatter trajectory is needed at longer range either of these two .35's is an excellent choice.  Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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My approach to this is: 257 Roberts - Light weight rifle, carry all day, shoots flat 7x64 - Heavy barrel and stock, diallable scope. Very easy to lay down and hit something along way with 9.3x62 - classic sporter with Leica Red Dot, great for anything "in the thick stuff" such as routling out wild boar Scrummy | |||
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Good morning everyone, how sad our world would be, if we get to this! 7 x 64 .300 wby 9.3 x 74R or .375 H&H. Best regards | |||
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3 is a complete waste: 270 Winchester 338 win mag   Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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The way your 9.3x62 Mosin shoots, sub .5 MOA (and that is a verified number, not a keyboard stroke like many are), and as flat as it shoots up to any reasonable game range, there is no need for anything else from prairie dogs to Moose. So, one caliber will do it all. | |||
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308 Win 270 WSM 300 WM | |||
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I see not too many here shoot small stuff like coyotes, Bob cats, prairie dogs, or rock chucks. if I were pressed to pick 3 for what I shoot the most. 223 25-06 325 WSM | |||
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7mm 08, 30'06 and 9.3X62 "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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