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260 rem. / 7mm-08 308 / 30-06 .35 Whelen | |||
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270/280 308/30-06 338 Mag of any description / 358 Norma Mag or STA. | |||
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If I am to use the AR definition of "medium bore", here are my choices which are currently used by me. 280 AI 28 Nosler 300 RUM If I were to blur the bore-size line, I'd use: 6.5 Creedmoor 28 Nosler 416 Rem Mag Zeke | |||
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Tex, I agree with Ray. All you need is a good 30-06. If you feel you need a spare then buy 2 30-06s that are identical and hunt one and but the other in the safe for emergency use. I have a good friend that was raised on a homestead north of Fairbanks, AK and the only rifle his family had was a 30-06. They shot everything with it. | |||
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I appreciate the input from y’all. On further thought, maybe I should ditch the 30-06 and just go with the 7mm-08 (or 280) and the 35 Whelen. | |||
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Even though my 30-06 is my least used rifle, it would be the last one to go, as ammo is so ubiquitous and it so flexible. Everyone should have at least one 30-06, even if it’s contained in a PVC capsule and buried in the ground awaiting the zombie apocalypse!  Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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.308 300 Win. Mag 9.3x74R Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Tex, You have a good idea there. With a 280 Rem. and a 35 Whelen, you’ve got a very good (2) rifle battery that would honestly cover all of your medium bore bases/needs. If you cannot give up the idea of being without a 30-06, I say the more the merrier. And like Mike Dettorre’s suggestion, those three cover about all of the medium bore bullet weights: 280: 140-175 gr. 30-06: 180-220 gr. 35 Whelen: 225-310 gr. Covered like a blanket...  | |||
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OP mentioned Coyotes and speed goats. (His choices are fine by the way). Personally I would prefer 257 Rob, 280 Rem and a 338-06 3 gun battery for the named quarry. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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I don't see many, it any poor choices in this thread, a couple of border line and its not the 30-30, that's a favorite of mine, it would be un-American to feel otherwise... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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7x57 (R) / I have always liked the cartridge for deer hunting in the European landscape. Its rimmed version was the one I have used initially with my O/U. Great for light singleshots too. 300 H&H (or flanged for SS) / The belted cartridge is a pure nostalgia but the cartridge feeds really slick. A take down would be my first choice for a travelling rifle. 9.3x64 (or 375 H&H) / For moose, bear or the very large antelope it is the best solution. | |||
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243 Winchester 30-06 Springfield 375 H&H I know you said no belted mags. The 375 H&H is just too good to not be a part of this line up, in fact if actions and so fourth had been more plentiful and less expensive at the time the of 35 Whelens development the motive to develop the 35 Whelen would have been much less. Ammunition availability, should you be in a bind for ammo, for whatever reason the above 3 seem to be where ever ammo is sold. It's popular. Don't expect to find 7mm-08 or 35 Whelen in your average ammo section. Small mom and pop stores out in the boonies can only afford to stock sellers in ammo. 7mm-08 and 35 Whelen will gather dust so stocking those is not an option. | |||
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I don't see a need for 3 medium bore but my .02 Small bore 30cal and under 7x57 or 300H&H Meduim bore 8mm-375 9.3x62 or 375 H&H Big Bore 40+ 404 Jeffery | |||
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My choices Little gun - .257 Roberts Medium gun - .338-'06 Big gun - .404 Jeffery That said, I've killed most of my game with a 6.5 X 55 and a 7mm RM. | |||
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Only need one. A 270 Win. 90g Sierra HPBTs at 3500 for the small stuff. 150g Partitions at 3000 fps for the bigger stuff. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I picked up a piece of paper on my end table with three CZ 550 rifles that Wayne at AHR has made for me on his #3 package. I thought about this thread after I read it. Here are the three that I have commissioned him to make. Not a bad (3) rifle medium bore battery: 6.5x55---120-160 gr. 30.06----165-220 gr. 9.3x66---250-320 gr.  | |||
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257 AI 30/06 9.3x62 DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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7x57. That seems to fo it for me. | |||
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1. .270 Win 2. .270 Win 3. .270 Win | |||
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Excellent choice | |||
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Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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The old standards...270 (130gr), 30-06 (165gr)and 338 (225gr). | |||
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.280 Rem, something in .338 and you're covered. Lots off great bullets available. If you want to shoot varmints, get a varmint round like .223 Rem. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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Interesting thread in that you get to defend your choices... assuming hunting is the reason for the guns. For mid bores as defined by Saeed- .27-sub .375 The ones I've used the most- and if I had to sell them off, these would be the last mid bores of mine to go. .30-06. Does everything you need for big game in North America. .300 RUM. Only reason I got it was the ungodly long point blank range. It doesn't kill any better than a .30-06. .330 Dakota- it's a pocket .340 weatherby. Kind of neither fish or fowl, it doesn't have the wallop of a big bore, but it has more punch than the .30 stuff. Really, for me if I was worried about ammo, I'd be as well served with a .338 win mag, but I liked the Dakota rifle better than the Winchester, weatherby, or Remington ones I had a choice of at the time. If target and self defense are added in, then I'd pull the .300 and add a .308 service rifle of some stripe. If you use classic definitions of mid bores, the .330 would be swapped with the .375. I would survive all my hunting with just a .22 rimfire, 12 ga shotgun, .30-06, and a .375, but that would be no fun... | |||
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6mm rem 30'06 375 H&H --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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25-06 30-06 35 Whelen I like the idea of going wood/ synthetic/wood. Only thing I would further specify would be 24/22/21 inches, in that order. That covers long distance ligher game, all around, and heavier game and/or thick cover. A short Whelen should still preform great and would be real handy if you know you'll be crawling in the thick stuff. If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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I really like those three calibers!  | |||
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Pointless to do this, but here's my three, all of which are Ruger No. 1 rifles, and all of them good shooters. 7x57 RSI (very compact and handy) 300 H&H 1S killed everything dead from Springbok to Eland 375 H&H 1H It actually is a medium bore. | |||
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.270 Win .30-06 9.3 x 62 No particular reason, other than I own them. Doug Wilhelmi NRA Life Member | |||
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I’m just confused by so many people that think that a .270 is the ultimate cartridge. I’ve owned several, but none can perform with a .30 mag. Maybe is it with you folks and this obsession of a .270. Yes, it can kill, but it’s way far too inefficient to cover all of NA game. A .375 H&H is the ultimate cartridge for all big game hunting. It will kill. Yes, all you crazies, bullet placement means everything, but there’s a huge difference between a 130 gr bullet and a 300gr bullet. If you don’t believe it, but on a flack jacket and take a shot in the chest from a 300gr .375 and another from a .270 with a .130gr bullet. It’s just craziness. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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So this is a thread about a “3 Rifle battery of medium bores” and you are confused why people are able to choose a 270 as one of their choices? I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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Deer and elk don’t wear flak jackets so a 270 will get the job done. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Well I think the 375 H&H is a little light for elk, got my last cow elk at 225 yards with a 570g TSX from my 500 Jeffery. Couldn't take the 270, gave it to my son ... He got his first elk with it several years ago. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Hey, I’m not trying to be an ass. I just don’t see this obsession with a .270 when there are so many better choices for big game. Yes, the .270 is a fine whitetail and antelope cartridge. But why? Especially if it’s your only rifle. I’m not a huge fan of the .30-06 for myself, but put a 180gr bullet in the 06 and you have everything covered even up to brownies. I just don’t get the obsession with the .270. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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Understand. In my opinion, the 270 shoots flatter than a 30-06, hits just as hard (with the exception of the heavier (200g and 220g) bullets), and recoils less. With 90g Sierra HPBTs at 3500 fps it makes one hell of a varmint round. Shooting 150g Partitions at 3000 fps it is deadly on deer, elk and bear. It's been used successfully on grizzly, but in my mind it's too light for that. you really have to go up to the 300 Mags to significantly beat it, and a lot of folks don't handle the recoil of the big 300s all that well. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Channeling Elmer Keith! Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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The late, great Jack O'Conner killed dozens of big game with his .270 to include: antelope, deer, caribou, elk, moose, black bear, and grizzlys. Most were reported as one shot kills. What more can you want in a medium bore in North America? Unless you specialize in killing moose or grizzlys at 300 yards, the .270 should do everything needed for general big game hunting in the USA. JMO, of course. BH63 Hunting buff is better than sex! | |||
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I was able to examine two custom Montana made rifles a few weeks ago in .257 Roberts a.i., both made on fn Mauser actions, with shaped actions and octagonal barrels. Beautiful claro stocks, the matched pair weight 6.5 lbs a piece. I’ll inherit one of them one day. Never seen one before! | |||
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My choices are: .222 Rem (50gn), .243 Win (87gn) and; .30/06 (180gn) Borrow .375 H&H (300gn) for Eland and bigger. If I wasn't allowed to borrow one I'd say: .222 Rem, .30/06 and; .375 H&H | |||
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To the hunter who has become proficient with an individual rifle, or rifles, what is most important isn't other rifle calibers, but the one (s) he or she uses. To you the .270 may not be the best choice, but to those who use it is the best. For example, in Alaska where I have been living for many years, the .270 to the .338 are the most popular rifle calibers with hunters. The 7mm Magnum is next, and the .375 is somewhere behind. The .30-06 tops them all, however. Out of all of those the .338WM is my favorite, but I would not mind using any of those others I have listed as an all around gun, as long as it is loaded with the proper ammo for the hunt. The whole thing depends on what game you hunt, and the terrain. For example, if I was hunting bears is the coastal and forested areas of Alaska where rifle weight is not an issue, then any heavy or light rifle is fine with me. But if I was hunting caribou in the open tundra and had to do a lot of walking, there is no way I would carry the average .375H&H. I just put it in the safe, and take one of the lightweight and less powerful rifles such as a .270, .308, and so on. | |||
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