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Is it true that Sullivan actually apprenticed under Capstick before Capstick joined the SCI Board? Always wondered about that.


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After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

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Is it true that Sullivan actually apprenticed under Capstick before Capstick joined the SCI Board? Always wondered about that.


Was that before or after he traded his double for a Blaser?


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After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

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Hi Jim,
Actually only two, I recently asked for "Nganga" to be changed to my real name.

Steve


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After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

Jim Wojciehowski
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Hi Jim,
Actually only two, I recently asked for "Nganga" to be changed to my real name.

Steve


The intent was all in the smiley faces my friend. I can't believe the start date on this thread. It's like watching a child grow before your eyes.


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After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

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Hi Jim,
Actually only two, I recently asked for "Nganga" to be changed to my real name.

Steve


Steve,

You are far too modest, you forgot about "chipolopolo". (ok maybe two changes, but three names) Maybe that Krieghoff knocked some screws loose. Eeker

There was some funny stuff in this thread.
 
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I don't know if it has been mentioned in earlier posts but in an old A Square catalogue I have there is a picture of PHC holding an A Square Hannibal rifle with the caption "Peter Hathaway Capstick, admiring his new Hannibal Model rifle. He would later call it his most favourite rifle and state that he may use other rifles but will only hunt with a Hannibal Model". A very profound statement Smiler

I assume he did hunt with his Hannibal in .470 Capstick as there is a photo of him and A Square founder Art Alpin posing beside two buffalo downed, or arranged, side by side.
 
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After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

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Hi Jim,
Actually only two, I recently asked for "Nganga" to be changed to my real name.

Steve


The intent was all in the smiley faces my friend. I can't believe the start date on this thread. It's like watching a child grow before your eyes.


Hi Jim,
I got the smileys. I should have added some of my own as well. We need some levity around here after this weeks twists and turns. Smiler


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I think posts #14 and #15 are the two best in this thread. UEG's cross eyed Leopard!!

Quality.


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“Don’t mourn for me when I go. I’ve fished some of the greatest waters and hunted some of the most magical places. I turned ink into gold through my writings and I finally found the woman I love. I’ll have had a grand life.” Peter Capstick 1996
 
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Since one old thread with an AR "hot-button" was resurrected, why not two?

Read through some of this. Some hilarious stuff. Some of Crazy Horses best stuff...evah!!


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Probably the best fireworks show in my neck of the woods.

Now if you can find a good juicy SCI pissing contest to resurrect, we'll have the trifecta!

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Don't be rude Steve!!!!

Fraud or not, PHC encouraged a lot of folks to go hunting in Africa.

Mark Sullivan, good or bad, he has led one hell of a life.

The real question is, what makes people hate Capstick and Sullivan so much? Because people believe both are frauds, or because both were/have been successful.

Not sure why I was drug into this conversation, some small minded individuals idea of a joke I guess. I like Capsticks writings even if he did not live up to some folks standards, and from what I have seen Sullivan does seem to have his supporters.

Shame that hunters, because of their attitudes and egos are going to be the ones that bring an end to hunting.


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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

Jim Wojciehowski
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Hi Jim,
Actually only two, I recently asked for "Nganga" to be changed to my real name.

Steve


The intent was all in the smiley faces my friend. I can't believe the start date on this thread. It's like watching a child grow before your eyes.


Hi Jim,
I got the smileys. I should have added some of my own as well. We need some levity around here after this weeks twists and turns. Smiler


Wow!! The resurrection of chipolopolo


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Don't be rude Steve!!!!

Fraud or not, PHC encouraged a lot of folks to go hunting in Africa.

Mark Sullivan, good or bad, he has led one hell of a life.

The real question is, what makes people hate Capstick and Sullivan so much? Because people believe both are frauds, or because both were/have been successful.

Not sure why I was drug into this conversation, some small minded individuals idea of a joke I guess. I like Capsticks writings even if he did not live up to some folks standards, and from what I have seen Sullivan does seem to have his supporters.

Shame that hunters, because of their attitudes and egos are going to be the ones that bring an end to hunting.


Happy New Year Randall, If you go back and read some of your comments, they are AR GOLD!! that was my meaning.

Steve


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Originally posted by Frostbit:
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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
After the last "AR Capstick War" I purchased from Amazon the "Capstick Collection" on DVD. I watched each and every minute of each and every DVD with an open mind as I did with each and every word in every novel he penned. I have come to the conclusion that PHC has the same amount of days as a licensed PH as do I -0-. To me he looked completely out of his element, he dressed like a complete douchebag with the damn berret with the shiney thing on it and all. His rifle carry advise I personally find to be a joke. Every single PH I have hunted with, without exception, including some of the real ol' time pro's I found completely comfortable in thier element and in thier own skin and when in the bush show a level of competence that precludes them from constantly looking for approval and dont need to try and persuade us that they belong there. PHC was in fact a stumbling fraud in the bush. Conversely, as a writer, without exception the best African lore storyteller of all time. Or there will ever be.
Chipolopolo


A valid post five years and three log on's later. Big Grin

Jim Wojciehowski
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Hi Jim,
Actually only two, I recently asked for "Nganga" to be changed to my real name.

Steve


The intent was all in the smiley faces my friend. I can't believe the start date on this thread. It's like watching a child grow before your eyes.


Hi Jim,
I got the smileys. I should have added some of my own as well. We need some levity around here after this weeks twists and turns. Smiler


Wow!! The resurrection of chipolopolo


What a jerk that guy seems like, eh?


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Is it true that Sullivan actually apprenticed under Capstick before Capstick joined the SCI Board? Always wondered about that.


Classic!! Big Grin


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Happy New Year Randall, If you go back and read some of your comments, they are AR GOLD!! that was my meaning.


Happy New Year to you and yours Steve, first time I ever read someone calling bsflag gold.

Hope 2017 is good for you.


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. . . first time I ever read someone calling bsflag gold.



Really? That sort of alchemy is practiced on AR daily!


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I never met Capstick but I know people who had him in camp in Botswana...they were not impressed, mainly because of his drinking problem..

As to his writing....he was a good writer, a master with the English language and a good story teller as many have said..

I have read only one of his books, Death in the long grass. What makes me shake my head an laugh is the way he exaggerate the danger of being in and hunting in Africa.. 2020

Never bothered to read more by him after that, just my 2 cents..



 
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I thought Jefffive's post at the bottom of page one was funny.

Quote; I personally don't care if there's video of him giving a blowjob to a bull rhino..... Big Grin




 
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That sort of alchemy is practiced on AR daily!


Now that I think about it, you are correct.

Happy New Year to you and yours.


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I thought Jefffive's post at the bottom of page one was funny.

Quote; I personally don't care if there's video of him giving a blowjob to a bull rhino..... Big Grin


Add me to that list. He more than anyone got me excited about safari hunting when I was a kid.

I am not really a fan, but he got lit a spark.
 
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According to the senior Broom's book (I think it was his book) PHC was in fact a pretty successful PH for several seasons. In Matets as I recall the book.

But I don't think he lived for the bush.

JPK


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I have to agree with JPK simply because I have talked to several people who hunted with him. Gordon Cundill backed many of Capsticks fiascos such as the lion charge where the lion was hit eleven times in a very close charge with Gordons double getting three hang fires and one dud leaving three of Cundills shots hitting and the other eight shots coming from Peters bolt action 375. I don't know about you but I would say that is some pretty good bolt rifle work, for phony. There is a filmed interview with Peter and Gordon of that encounter as well. The Brooms also say he was a PH for some time as well!

As was mentioned in a post above his dress
was not what you see today in Africa, but you must remember that PHCs stent as a PH was at a time when the big legged shorts and bush jackets were the fashion of the day in the early 1980s being just at the end of the OLD TIME "White Hunter" era.


Having said the above I have also talked to Gordon Cundill and Volker Grellmann and both told me he was not a fake as so many here seem to think. On top of all that I have seen a picture of his PH license, and his passport where he is listed as a PROFESIONAL HUNTER.

.............I know this will not have any effect on the opinions here but it's easy to talk crap about a man who is dead and can't defend himself! old


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People are entitled to their opinion, but that doesn't necessarily make it true.

Why attack someone who is dead and cannot defend themselves????

I really enjoyed reading his books, and for that I will also be grateful to PHC. If he took "liberties" with some of his stories in order to make them more entertaining, them more power to him IMO.

Give it a rest.

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I find it amusing that PHC gets all kinds of flack for being the real deal, but guys like Ruark and Hemingway who managed a couple of safaris are some type of authoritative figure when it comes to African hunting. Go figure...
 
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P.S.

If people here want to talk drunks, Hemingway, and Ruark, were both boozers as well, and Hemingway was only in Africa a couple of times yet both get a pass here.

.....................................................Go figure! 2020


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I suspect the truth is that there are more PHCs on this sight than Ruarks or certainly Hemingways, just like in real life. I don't have an issue with the original PHC nor most of the copycats.
 
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Is it true that Capstick was an heir to the Chapstick fortune? So many mysteries surround the man.


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Mac, appreciate your comments here. Surely there must be someone out there who was actually a client of Capstick's when he was a PH.


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Mac, appreciate your comments here. Surely there must be someone out there who was actually a client of Capstick's when he was a PH.


I once met a guy who claimed to have been a client. That was years ago. I once took it upon myself to see if I could find any entries in the record book listing PHC as the PH. I was able to find some entries.

More recently, we came across the son of a PH often mentioned in the books. According to this gentleman, his father does not recall things exactly the same way as written.

Some of the comparisons here are ridiculous. Yes , Ruark and Hemingway were drunks. Neither professed to be a PH.

So what if PHC dressed the way he did. Few of us dressed the same 30 plus years ago as we do now.


Finally, I did see PHC at the SCI convention shortly before his death. He looked gray. He didn't look healthy at all. I was not surprised to hear the news of his death, sad but not surprised.
 
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I have been off doing stuff and missed this discussion. A famous PH, one known quite well to Saeed, told me, once roughly paraphrased from a conversation some 20 years ago at Chete, "PHC didn't do all the stuff he said he did, but he sure sold a lot of safaris."


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it may not smell this way tomorrow.”

Lucy, a long deceased Basset Hound

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I checked SCI's on-line record book and found only two entries listing Peter H. Capstick as the PH/guide. One was for an elephant with 80- and 66-lb. tusks, the other was for a big puku. Both were taken in July 1969 by a Dr. Marco Ugoletti in Zambia's Luangwa Valley. It would be interesting to know if Dr. Ugoletti's photos still are in SCI's files.

I suspect there would be a lot more entries with Capstick listed as PH for various hunters if there had been an SCI record book when he was guiding hunters. I may be wrong but I don't believe Roland Ward, the only keeper of African hunting records at the time, listed the names of guides back then.

Bill Quimby
 
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I find it interesting that the longer a current (20th century) PH has been dead, and thus unable to sue every wannabe for slander; the detractors that surface.

Capstick drank. So does everybody else I know.

Capstick embellished his accomplishments. So does everybody else I know. That includes about 99% of the members here.
 
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According to the senior Broom's book (I think it was his book) PHC was in fact a pretty successful PH for several seasons. In Matets as I recall the book.

But I don't think he lived for the bush.

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“Don’t mourn for me when I go. I’ve fished some of the greatest waters and hunted some of the most magical places. I turned ink into gold through my writings and I finally found the woman I love. I’ll have had a grand life.” Peter Capstick 1996



I have to agree with JPK simply because I have talked to several people who hunted with him. Gordon Cundill backed many of Capsticks fiascos such as the lion charge where the lion was hit eleven times in a very close charge with Gordons double getting three hang fires and one dud leaving three of Cundills shots hitting and the other eight shots coming from Peters bolt action 375. I don't know about you but I would say that is some pretty good bolt rifle work, for phony. There is a filmed interview with Peter and Gordon of that encounter as well. The Brooms also say he was a PH for some time as well!

As was mentioned in a post above his dress
was not what you see today in Africa, but you must remember that PHCs stent as a PH was at a time when the big legged shorts and bush jackets were the fashion of the day in the early 1980s being just at the end of the OLD TIME "White Hunter" era.


Having said the above I have also talked to Gordon Cundill and Volker Grellmann and both told me he was not a fake as so many here seem to think. On top of all that I have seen a picture of his PH license, and his passport where he is listed as a PROFESIONAL HUNTER.

.............I know this will not have any effect on the opinions here but it's easy to talk crap about a man who is dead and can't defend himself! old


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If every writer wrote down exactly what happened they would not sell books.

Life most of the time is boring so when one writes one tends to high lite the exciting stuff.

I am sure every would buy books if they were filled with I got up in the morning made coffee went to the bath room had breakfast. Wrote stuff on the computer put some wood on the fire had another cup of coffee ect ect.

Jealousy is a very strong emotion.
 
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Trying to diminish someone's stature, especially if they are deceased, always has the opposite effect. I'd bet thats why all the legendary hunters who have lampooned PHC around the campfire don't want their name used on this forum.
 
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African PH's should be making pilgrimages to his grave for as much business as he sent their way the last 40 years.
 
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I would be curious to know the number of his books sold.
 
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All of us, great or small gather our supporters and detractors during our lives. Things we say or write about, concerning our exploits/experiences can be and often are taken out of context by both those we actually know and may have been present when the incidents took place, and by those talking about stuff they have heard second or third hand.

From what I have read over the years, Capstick lived life on his terms, did a lot to encourage others to want to hunt in Africa, and then died.

What is anyone accomplishing by continuing this ongoing bashing of the man?


Even the rocks don't last forever.



 
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