Charles,
You should ask lawndart as he is in charge of this operation but I see that we need a coat of arms or at least a badge for our berets...

Regards,
Martin

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Originally posted by Marterius:
Charles,
You should ask lawndart as he is in charge of this operation but I see that we need a coat of arms or at least a badge for our berets...

Regards,
Martin

If you put Lawndart in charge I fear it will feature this:

I am sure you are right!

If our coat of arms should cover this thread, I think it would be something like this:



Regards,
Martin

Guys: If they only deal with special forces where in the clear -have you ever seen any more "special" forces than we are?

Charles: Reminds me of my days as a deadhead...

Marterius: What´s the latin on the armor? "In luck and downhill sailing we trust"?

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Marterius: What´s the latin on the armor? "In luck and downhill sailing we trust"?

No idea, but I guess you are not far off...

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Here is our simplified and unified warm weather issue letterhead, logo and misdirection icon combination:


ALF,
Absolutely! I notice that the crates below the barrel are correctly positioned:
The top crate stores ammunition belts that must be fired up to enable the crew to access the cooling fluids stored in the lower crate.

Charles,

This Logo goes on the expedition's aircraft.

Marterius,
You have posted the original Austalian "Dead Head" coat of arms. The bipedal turtle is a tribute to the album Terrapin Station. The Koala with the bottle of liquor hanging upside down is more relevant to the OZ point of view than dancing bears would be. My latin is rusty, but I believe an alternative translation would be, "Don't Bogart that joint my friend, pass it on over to me".

Above all else; we must keep foremost in our sight the two reasons we are undertaking this noble expedition:

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You have posted the original Austalian "Dead Head" coat of arms. The bipedal turtle is a tribute to the album Terrapin Station. The Koala with the bottle of liquor hanging upside down is more relevant to the OZ point of view than dancing bears would be. My latin is rusty, but I believe an alternative translation would be, "Don't Bogart that joint my friend, pass it on over to me

The truth is that I stole it without shame from a website dedicated to the writings of Patrick O'Brian. http://www.hmssurprise.org/

I came across it a few days ago and at once saw that someone had already taken the coat of arms we should have had!
They even copyrighted it!

Actually, there is a description of the coat of arms:

Quarterly or and gules, on a fess azure three spotted-dicks, between in the first quarter an 18-pounder, in the second a sextant, in the third a fiddle sea-going, and in the fourth between a single star and a group of three stars the sun in his splendour.

Crest: on a ship's wheel a telescope of brass and cutlass saltire-wise.

Supporters: dexter a sloth debauched; sinister a Testudo aubreii proper, the whole upon a compartment representing th'impervious horrors of a lee shore (sort of).

Motto: Avis matutina... duabus in dumo par est. (The early bird... is worth two in the bush).

It's meant to represent skill at navigation, power of arms, a delight in astronomy and music, love of puddings and so on, with the motto exemplifying Jack's way with words.

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Originally posted by ALF:
Hey wait for me can I come as well, have toys will travel.

ALF, you are more then welcome!

/Martin

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Quarterly or and gules, on a fess azure three spotted-dicks, between in the first quarter an 18-pounder, in the second a sextant, in the third a fiddle sea-going, and in the fourth between a single star and a group of three stars the sun in his splendour.

Crest: on a ship's wheel a telescope of brass and cutlass saltire-wise.

Supporters: dexter a sloth debauched; sinister a Testudo aubreii proper, the whole upon a compartment representing th'impervious horrors of a lee shore (sort of).

Motto: Avis matutina... duabus in dumo par est. (The early bird... is worth two in the bush).

It's meant to represent skill at navigation, power of arms, a delight in astronomy and music, love of puddings and so on, with the motto exemplifying Jack's way with words.

I am humbled. Where does one register a coat of arms?

LD

Welcome on board Alf! As we are now three physicians on board we need to get the boys shot up a bit so we have something to do...nothing major just flesh wounds and smaller burns.

And speaking about burns does the 40mm shoot phosphor (God the spelling!) rounds? They should work well in the bush and I recall hearing that they were very popular and effective in the bush wars.

Really like the armored quad.

My sons appreciated the lady sitting on the aerial bombs but they said mom wouldn´t appreciate us having ladies on the tour. I said that they are just troops and not ladies...lame I know.

I have a bad feeling about "Barbarossa", can´t we just do Zim?

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I have a bad feeling about "Barbarossa", can´t we just do Zim?

And do we really have to take all of Zim at once? I am not sure I particularly care for Harare. Couldn't we just liberate the north, from Lake Kariba and westward (including Chewore)? Then we can make Kariba the new capital and let Ian Smith run for president and leave the rest to him? Or perhaps we should make him king? I guess Zim is rather fed up with presidents at the moment...

Marterius: I actually don´t care about liberating people who might not be very appreciative of our liberating them.

Maybe we should do a recon first? Disguised as a hunting trip? We would have to shoot some animals so as not to blow our cover -I volunteer for the dirty work, someone has to.

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Originally posted by cewe:
Guys: If they only deal with special forces where in the clear -have you ever seen any more "special" forces than we are?

There can´t be a force more special than our force! There are armed forces and there are special armed forces. Just like the Olympics and the Special Olympics!!


Welcome on board, Alf! Does .500 Jefferys count as artillery or as small arms?

I suggest "Sero venientibus - gutta"
"to those who arrive late - drops"

Cheers

Boha

Boha: I think the .500 J could be our antiaircraft gun -could you fit it with a banana mag to increase fire power (hope God forgives me for even thinking this!)?

So far we only have a recon plane, maybe the Ruskies could sell us a MIG or two?

I hear you can make napalm out of equal parts concentrated orange juice and gasoline (at least that what Tyler Durden says in Fight club)

By the way I´ve appointed myself sniper for the mission, I´ll be using a BRNO in 8x60S. I´m thinking of using a Meopta scope, one that could be used for bear hunting after the invasion. Any models you recommend?

I belived that this tread was about 9,3x66!?

Put an 9,3x66 in my trusty Husqvarna 1600 9,3x62 and it works, give me a reamer cewe!

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I have a bad feeling about "Barbarossa", can´t we just do Zim?

Not to worry. If we start in April instead of June we will be fine. Also, our mission planning group (Lois and I with a map and a marker) has narrowed our target list down to a manageable number:
The Kola Penninsula for Atlantic Salmon and Anadromous Trout fishing.
Put our patrol boats on rail cars and head to Kirov to pick up the female half of the ballet troop.
Refloat the boats on the Vartka river to the Volga, and down to the Caspian sea for Caviar.
Down to Baku to secure fuel.
Rail cars to Odessa where we will meet our Battleship (or cruise ship) before the first snowflakes fall.

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I belived that this tread was about 9,3x66!?

Put an 9,3x66 in my trusty Husqvarna 1600 9,3x62 and it works, give me a reamer cewe!

I will bring my reamer when I come over to visit.

LD

PS Nice Rifle.

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And do we really have to take all of Zim at once? I am not sure I particularly care for Harare. Couldn't we just liberate the north, from Lake Kariba and westward (including Chewore)? Then we can make Kariba the new capital and let Ian Smith run for president and leave the rest to him? Or perhaps we should make him king? I guess Zim is rather fed up with presidents at the moment...

Marterius,
You are now the official planner for the Southern land and river campaign.

LD

cewe,
Don't worry about Russia, we will make it. Lawndart has a P E R F E C T plan

How are the diplomatic situation with Mocambique?
Are they neutral to our invasion of Zim or will they support us with Langustines and "Frutti di Mare" in general?

I think that we have to have Ganyana involved as he can show us around in Salisbury -sorry Harare -sorry Lawndartbury!

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How are the diplomatic situation with Mocambique?
Are they neutral to our invasion of Zim or will they support us with Langustines and "Frutti di Mare" in general?

I believe they will support anything that helps keep the refugees on the Zim side of the border.

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I think that we have to have Ganyana involved as he can show us around in Salisbury -sorry Harare -sorry Lawndartbury!

Ganyana will be minister of wildlife. I think Salisbury is a very nice name for a city. I wonder why no one thought of that name before now???

LD

Husky: According to Erkki you can use the 9.3x62 reamer, you just let it dig in for another 4 mms. You sure you want to do this?

Lawndart: The plans for Russia sounds awfully good, there is a risk that the russkies want to be liberated and that they will want to come South with us...

Alf: Any more toys in your chest? Couldn´t you start a second front across the Barent straight?

We still don´t have planes!

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Marterius,
You are now the official planner for the Southern land and river campaign.

I'll gladly be your intelligence officer, but you need someone trained at Staff College for the tedious part of the planning!

Regards,
Martin

Marterius: Luckily you are not Norwegian -being and intelligence officer and Norwegian would be a paradox!

Staff college? I´ve taught everything from psychology to beekeeping and creative writing so why not officers training? Nobody ever listens anyway.

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Originally posted by cewe:
Marterius: Luckily you are not Norwegian -being and intelligence officer and Norwegian would be a paradox!

Staff college? I´ve taught everything from psychology to beekeeping and creative writing so why not officers training? Nobody ever listens anyway.

Then you qualify as staff college trained.

I have taught psychology at university level for the last ten years and they started to listen when I made sure that I got a reputation for not suffering fools gladly on examinations.

Regards,
Martin

Marterius: Who teach psyhology? Great! I work parttime as a psychotherapist -cognitive-analytic therapy. I have four years of training but this fall I started the "guru" extension course -three more years...

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I have taught psychology at university level for the last ten years and they started to listen when I made sure that I got a reputation for not suffering fools gladly on examinations.

Good work Martin! When I taught young doctors in residency training I was reviled by having the dictation department double space their dictations on the first try so that I had room for the hated "red pen". On the other hand I pushed them hard to get the day's work done in a timely manner and then forced those not on call to go home at five and spend time with their families. One resident said that he didn't like to go home until late because he and his wife weren't getting along. I told him to either get a girlfriend to visit in the evenings, or get a divorce and a dog to walk.

As for planes. When my back is repaired and the chronic fatigue treated I am able to fly SU-27 and Mig 29 aircraft. I just need a manual in English, or a short course in Russain. I would rather eat worms than fly a Mig 23/27 . I believe the Su-27 would be best for our needs in the cities. An A-10 or Soviet era Su-25TM "Frogfoot" would work well in the countryside. The Su-25 would be cheaper to purchase, and easier to service. If the US government didn't object, I would be interested in taking a sabbatical from medicine to fly a ground attack airplane somewhere in the third world (with contract maintenance, of course). Nothing quite like getting in close and dropping 250 KG bombs in their laps.

Naplam is interesting stuff. It is basically aviation fuel that is jellied with a detergent like additive. In later years some white phosphurous was added, along with a substance that made it stick to everything. A great terror weapon, but a public relations failure. I prefer Cluster Bomb Units, much more humane (not).

LD

Cewe, in your cognitive-analytic readings, have you come across the concept "possible selves"? I am right now finishing my doctoral dissertation on that concept, but my approach is from the social psychology side, not the clinical side.

Regards,
Martin

Marterius: Cat therapy uses "alernative self states" (olika jagtillstånd) in approaching for example border-line disorders or PTSD. We often use this in a diagram and this is a way for patients to understand their reactions in different situation. This is not to be confused with dissociative states which is more clearly pathological. If a patient har different self states one of the goals of therapy on the short term is identifying these and in the long term the goal is integration. I recommend the later writings of Anthony Ryle for an in depth look at the theory behind this, amazon carries many books on CAT. Something that is big in "modern" CAT is dialogical sequensing (dialogisk sekvensering) with a base in Bachtin and Vygotsky. A Finn at the University of Jyväskylä, Mikael Leiman, is doing a lot of work revising CAT theory and you being a psychologist would probably understand it (we MDs tend to not have a loyt of theoretical knowledge in psychology).

I recommend the book
Domus Anguli Puensis.



Read it, gentlemen. It is a dazzling tale about the relationship between a bear with a possible self state and some other creatures of astounding stamina.

Search no nore, gentlemen.

Boha: Something like an xrated Winnie the Pooh? Or Winnie does Dallas?

Lawndart: Is the SU-25TM a fighter plane or a fighter-bomber? Man would I like to ride in a real fighter! It´s one of my long time dreams that will never come true...

Of course one never knows.

Has anyone ever tried making jellied gasoline with orange juice concentrate? This is something I have to try, might be a good way of ridding the neighborhood of cats.

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Lawndart: Is the SU-25TM a fighter plane or a fighter-bomber? Man would I like to ride in a real fighter! It´s one of my long time dreams that will never come true...

The SU-25 "Frogfoot" is a rugged ground attack aircraft much like the US A-10 aircraft.

For the cost of a plains game hunt in Namibia you can go to Mosckva and get a 1.3 hour ride in a SU-27 Flanker.

I would save the orange juice for breakfast.

LD

Lawndart: 1.3 hours in a fighter! The key word here is Moscow -I don´t really trust the maintenance part of their show.

I think I´d rather take the hunt and keep on dreaming of the flight tour

Seems our invasion is falling of the charts...we need more pics of guns and women!

Well,

It has been a good run.
I am fresh out of new pictures right now, and buried in charts again. If no one else does, I will resurect this thread when my reamer and gauge arrives in two weeks.

What should the diameter of my barrel be at the muzzle if the hole in the end is .366"? I will use a Krieger barrel, finish it at 24" and put on some iron sights. Remington action. If the action and bolt are square I will stick with the factory extractor, but if some milling needs to be done I will have my gunsmith add a Sako extractor.

My gunsmith is poorer than me right now, so I will have him increase the scope base mounting holes to 8x40 to subsidize his income. I can't really afford it, but I need to help keep him fed.

LD

Lawndart: We are losing steam -sadly. Patton said something about action being more important than planning and I think the invasion has been planned to death!

My leg is hurting like hell but I´ve been up and around all day so I can only blame myself. Took a couple of pain killer that shold kick in soon.

Maybe boha could post some new pics...

And we need to think about regulations... I presume that the old military tradition of inspecting shaving should apply also to the female members of the mission?

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Originally posted by cewe:
Marterius: Cat therapy uses "alernative self states" (olika jagtillstånd) in approaching for example border-line disorders or PTSD. We often use this in a diagram and this is a way for patients to understand their reactions in different situation. This is not to be confused with dissociative states which is more clearly pathological. If a patient har different self states one of the goals of therapy on the short term is identifying these and in the long term the goal is integration. I recommend the later writings of Anthony Ryle for an in depth look at the theory behind this, amazon carries many books on CAT. Something that is big in "modern" CAT is dialogical sequensing (dialogisk sekvensering) with a base in Bachtin and Vygotsky. A Finn at the University of Jyväskylä, Mikael Leiman, is doing a lot of work revising CAT theory and you being a psychologist would probably understand it (we MDs tend to not have a loyt of theoretical knowledge in psychology).

Ouch, I better say at once that I get shivers when "self" is translated with "jag", I even wrote a piece on those translational problems in Psykologtidningen about a year ago (self/I/ego to be translated to jag/själv etc).

Possible selves are conceptions about our selves in future situations; images or narratives (whatever metaphor you prefer) about being in a future situation. For instance seeing yourself with a reamer in 9.3x66, hacking away on your rifle. Situations you fear, hope for, long for or think just will happen, positive or negative or neutral. Have a lot in common with William James old concept "ideal selves" but without being narrowed down to "ideal" situations. I have done some theoretical work on the concept and tried some methodological consequences of the theoretical work.

Regards,
Martin

Marterius: I see your point and I must say that English and Finnish are better when discussing selfstates. I´d like to read your article on self-jag/själv but don´t count on any intelligent comments!

I actually don´t have to deal with this problem as my training is in Finnish! "Self" then translating into "minuus" while "I" translates into "minä" which keeps the whole concept of ego concentrated on the "sense of oneself".

Sometimes the theoretical parts of my training makes my head spin...