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Some may laugh at this question as in "What is the best possum gun", but truthfully. Obviously a large caliber will kill a baboon. This question is for the folks that do it day in and day out as a depradation issue. Would a varmint gun like a 22-250 be enough gun? Would a 300 mag of some ilk be better? I assume lots of the shooting takes place at long range so that a flat shooter is an advantage. Scope of preference? I don't currently own a varmint rig at present.(could be another excuse to buy a rifle.) On my next trip to Africa I hope to kill one of my close relatives with the big canine teeth.


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I shot nearly 40 baboons in Zim with a 7mm STW shooting 140 Xbt's.............worked perfectly Big Grin

Probably a 257 WBY is the perfect baboon rifle or something similar............


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When we were in Zimbabwe in 02, the rancher who owned the property we were hunting on, took a liking to my four boys. About the third day he came to camp one morning and announced, boys, today we wage war on the baboons! At the same time he dropped a brick of .22 shells on the table, handed my oldest a bolt action .22, and then he took them for two days of shooting, your close relatives. They killed dozens. And needless to say my sons had a ball. The population of baboons had gotten out of control and they were destroying the local bird population. My sons said the two two, ( as the rancher called it) worked fine. But you had to get close. I would think a .223 or a .22-250, would be great to.
 
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I used my 3006 for my one and only baboon-range was about 100yds
 
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I shot one with a 300 Wby. and another with a 338 Win. Mag. Both worked of course. A 300 is great. Anything from 243 on up I would think would be plenty.
 
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This would be perfect (if it were legal)



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I agree with Rick R.

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...thru the years in Zim, the one caliber that is used almost exclusively on baboons, is a M-70 in .223/5.56 with a 2.5x8 Leupold. This rifle has been responsible for killing so many baboons, it has the distinction of being referred as "The Gudu Gun!"

Obviously you can shoot baboons with whatever rifle/caliber you have when the opportunity arises. But, if you're gonna' have a day of shooting nothing but baboons, I think the .223 is a good choice.
 
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22WMR should work just fine.
 
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It hasn't been mentioned but given what has been sed it should but has anyone used a 17 hmr? I would be curious as to results.

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gabe...like shooting anything else with a 17 hmr, it would run off and die somewhere... mgun
 
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Baboons can be very hard to hunt, and a long range caliber may be needed. In RSA and where they have been hunted a lot they live in the cliff areas and those suckers are the smartest animal I have ever hunted..I like a 243, 22-250, or even a 270. We go in a mellon field before daylight and lay in a hole, do not move a muscle, not even a twitch, don't peek out, when they seem to be on top of you, jump up and start shooting. I like my 6x45 for this hunt, its about perfect, and as they take off, it keeps them in range for awhile.

I know true baboon hunter. He hires a helicopter and it almost lands near the cliffs, he jumps out with his 223 M-16, and a 12 ga. pump landing in a depression and the helicopter takes off, the baboons come out raising hell as it disapears, then he opens up and kills a ton of them...He has had some very close calls btw, they can be pushed too far. I suspect one day we will probably pick up some of his parts that are not etable..

Just hunting baboons as opposed to taking them at random when they present themselves is a lot of fun in itself and very challanging...


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Archer,

On the list of things that I have shot with mine is Squirrel, ground hog coyote and turkey (multiples of each) and none have crawled off before dying, all but one has been instant, so maybe I am just doing something wrong. It was my assumption that if a double deuce was being discussed as having been used that the little 17 would handle the load, so was just looking for some experiences.

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Boha and I shot some baboons on our last trip, he used a 30-06 with (I think) 180gr Hornady bullets and I used my 8x68S with 187gr H-mantel bullets.

They both worked nicely but if I had the pick I´d take the 8x68S.


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I never killed baboons but i believe they can have the resistance of a human soldier ,so we must use at least a 308 ,i believe everybody who used the great fal will agree ,what you think Ganyana.


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I agree. I think you need at a least a center fire rifle. Ranges can be quite long and I do not believe that you should just wound one and leave it to die. having said that I am not too keen on following up a wounded one either. I have used both a 30.06 and a 300WM (happened to be what I had with me)!
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I have shot baboons with my 9,3x74R and my 450/400 3 1/4", as targets of oppertunity.

If I was going to shoot a lot of them I think a 243 to a 300 Win Mag would work.


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So the consensus is that a .22-250 Centerfire with premium bullets would work?
 
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The .264 Winchester Magnum with 140 grainers is a good match for taking an ocassional baboon. If I were going to focus on baboon shooting I would opt for the 25 WSSM and 120's.
 
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I'm of the opinion that ANY rifle in a baboon's hands would be dangerous... shame
 
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My baboon prefers the .22, but he's just not safe with it.

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I do believe that my heavy barreled Browning A-Bolt chambered in .223 WSSM would be PERFECT for the job!! mgun


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I was thinking - Gee, I hope the animal rights activists aren't reading this. I then read Ray's account of the helicopter assault and now I can't stop laughing!


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Baboons can be very hard to hunt, and a long range caliber may be needed. In RSA and where they have been hunted a lot they live in the cliff areas and those suckers are the smartest animal I have ever hunted..I like a 243, 22-250, or even a 270. We go in a mellon field before daylight and lay in a hole, do not move a muscle, not even a twitch, don't peek out, when they seem to be on top of you, jump up and start shooting. I like my 6x45 for this hunt, its about perfect, and as they take off, it keeps them in range for awhile.

I know true baboon hunter. He hires a helicopter and it almost lands near the cliffs, he jumps out with his 223 M-16, and a 12 ga. pump landing in a depression and the helicopter takes off, the baboons come out raising hell as it disapears, then he opens up and kills a ton of them...He has had some very close calls btw, they can be pushed too far. I suspect one day we will probably pick up some of his parts that are not etable..

Just hunting baboons as opposed to taking them at random when they present themselves is a lot of fun in itself and very challanging...


Ray,

That bloke sounds like he's as mad as a cut snake thumb Does he have Aussie relatives? Big Grin

As you say, hunting them can be very challenging.


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When we were in Zimbabwe in 02, the rancher who owned the property we were hunting on, took a liking to my four boys. About the third day he came to camp one morning and announced, boys, today we wage war on the baboons! At the same time he dropped a brick of .22 shells on the table, handed my oldest a bolt action .22, and then he took them for two days of shooting, your close relatives. They killed dozens. And needless to say my sons had a ball. The population of baboons had gotten out of control and they were destroying the local bird population. My sons said the two two, ( as the rancher called it) worked fine. But you had to get close. I would think a .223 or a .22-250, would be great to.


Bloody lucky they don't have wolves in Zim, Kudu.... or you and your boys would have had a ball. Big Grin animal


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Bloody lucky they don't have wolves in Zim, Kudu.... or you and your boys would have had a ball.



I wish we could send them some of our wolves! Some bloody ones. Big Grin
 
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.223 gets my vote. Push 60 grain Nosler partitions through their chest if you want a good specimen for mounting. LDK


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To follow up on what Peter said: use enough gun (.243 and up.) Quite simply, because baboons are problem animals many hunters (shooters) forget their ethics and kill these animals inhumanely. My ranch has problem baboons and I shoot them, but make every effort to make a clean kill. Every animal deserves at least that.
 
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Blair,
Yes, I always considered him a little ringy..and apparantly he has had some close calls. He hunted the Swartkei area of RSA which consists of high mountian bluffs and fields down below...Lots of baboons.

shooting a running baboon can really be an optical illusion as they run sideways you know. Its very disturbing.


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I can imagine! If I was your mate, I'd add a hi-cap handgun to my arsenal. Good for CQB! Big Grin

I remember in Zim', we were pursuing a troop and a wounded baboon tried to get up and have a go, the PH yelled "shoot that !@#$ again!" I think a decent centerfire of say 25-06 is appopriate for them..........the bulls are tough.


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Bloody lucky they don't have wolves in Zim, Kudu.... or you and your boys would have had a ball.



I wish we could send them some of our wolves! Some bloody ones. Big Grin


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An ultra-light and a 12 gauge shotgun are always an option where we go.

I swear I saw a baboon last year as we where coming in low to shoot start running as if he was saying..."oh Shit'


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An ultra-light and a 12 gauge shotgun are always an option where we go.

I swear I saw a baboon last year as we where coming in low to shoot start running as if he was saying..."oh Shit'


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I think it would be wonderful to do a baboon only safari. Just a heavy barreled 308 with a good German scope and lots of 168 Grain Ballistic tips in good Lapua brass.
 
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D99,

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Like a roo shoot, just more challenging.....

Something flatter shooting is better in my opinion.

A 257Wby shooting 115 Berger VLDs works well Big Grin


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