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Lots of cancellations, some great prices available for safaris in southern Africa at the moment - and we have no Ebola! | |||
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Sounds like a trap to me...  ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Check out this URL - it's Donald Trump talking about Ebola and Obama... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfro...=al&dkt_nbr=hlhzypsh If Ebola breaks out in the USA, we should rename the disease...Obola. | |||
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CDC just updated the infection multiplier from 1 to 2 for Africa. That makes the process exponential, and virtually unstoppable. | |||
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The only thing I'm certain of about ebola is that every time I turn the news on, there's some 'expert' telling something totally different to the last 'expert' which suggests to me that either they simply don't know or that they're not telling us the whole truth. - Either way, whatever will be, will be. I'm sure there are probably a considerably higher number of cancellations happening this year than last and I guess that's understandable, if only because it's so hard to know what's really happening because we're getting so many mixed messages from the media. Either way, those outfitters who are getting cancellations have my sympathy but if what some are telling us is true, cancellations will be the least of our worries. | |||
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News24.com If Senegal and CONGO can get this under control, what's all the hype about ? Geneva - Senegal is officially free of Ebola with the benchmark of 42 days passing without any new cases, the World Health Organisation said on Friday. But the country is not out of danger, given its location in Ebola-hit West Africa and proximity to the worst-hit countries of Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea, it said. "WHO officially declares the Ebola outbreak in Senegal over and commends the country on its diligence to end the transmission of the virus," the UN health agency said in a statement. Senegal's only confirmed Ebola case was a student who travelled by road from neighbouring Guinea - where the outbreak began in December - who crossed the border just before it was closed on 21 August. The man, who had had contact with an Ebola patient in Guinea, was confirmed as having the highly contagious and deadly disease on 29 August. Thanks to rapid care, he recovered by 5 September, and returned to Guinea two weeks later. But Senegal could not be declared officially Ebola-free until two full 21-day incubation periods of the disease had elapsed. "Senegal's response is a good example of what to do when faced with an imported case of Ebola," WHO said, lauding the government for having "reacted quickly to stop the disease from spreading". Senegal's response plan included identifying and monitoring 74 close contacts of the patient, prompt testing of all suspected cases, stepped-up surveillance at border posts and nationwide public awareness campaigns, the UN agency underlined. WHO also dispatched a team of epidemiologists to work alongside health ministry workers as well as medical charity Doctors Without Borders and the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. Case finding "Senegal has maintained a high level of active 'case finding' for 42 days - twice the maximum incubation period of Ebola virus disease - to detect possible unreported cases of infection," WHO said. "While the outbreak is now officially over, Senegal's geographical position makes the country vulnerable to additional imported cases of Ebola virus disease," it warned. "It continues to remain vigilant for any suspected cases by strict compliance with WHO guidelines," it added. Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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It's strictly political, a few politicians and wannabees in the U.S. have made a living off generating fear, whether of immigrants or Muslims or ebola. When this scare peters out they'll come up with something else but there's one thing you'll never see them highlight and claim we need some grand campaign against. Ignorance. It's their lifeblood. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Tim, did you read the attached comments by various viewers - really weird psycho stuff by many, even most. Is this what humanity has come to? I'm not afraid that Ebola will get out-of-control in the USA, but the bizarre comments indicate that the lunatic fringe in the USA is suffering from an epidemic of outright severe stupidity and ignorance. That's very scary. | |||
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Try to understand the psychology of the mob and the level of force required to suppress it. Once any particular country reaches a certain point of contagion, enough fear will grip the inhabitants close to the borders and they will begin to flee in large numbers. Once those numbers exceed the ability of the people at the border to contain them, there will be no way of stopping them from entering the next country, carrying the disease with them. At that point, nothing short of an aerial fire bomb will contain the infection. | |||
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The politicians in both of those countries have taken a rational / common sense approach: Both countries have instituted some sort of travel ban. A travel ban is not the 'be all and end all' but certainly it would be reasonable first step. Our "leaders" in Washington could probably learn a few things from those African countries that have gotten the virus under control. | |||
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Make sure your cuffs are well taped and wander into the Political Forum here on AR, the lunatic fringe is here. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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News 24 QUOTE about Nigeria beating EBOLA in Lagos with a population of 20 million and 8 fatalities ".... Close attention is being paid to how Nigeria, with an under-funded and ill-equipped health system, managed to contain the virus, as specialists look for a more effective response to control its spread." Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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Wow, not only a voice of reason, but on FOX! What a surprise. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Finally Always remeber: Bad news are good news for modern press! | |||
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Sierra Leone and Liberia are failed States, and did not even identify the outbreak for months - let alone tackle it. Most other countries in Africa have a working system that allows Government to be informed very fast of things happening even in the remotest places. If action is taken fast, it is not really difficult to contain Ebola, as has been proved countless times in Uganda, Congo, Nigeria, Senegal, and other countries. If containment is possible in Africa, at local level, with little or no help from outside, it seems to me that it would be within the capabilities of Europe or America to do the same... | |||
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They are! And Guinea is even worse.... | |||
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An accident they will take immediate steps to prevent in future. The ebola scare is bullshit, and is intended to replace scary foreigners as political theater. A school in Maine put a teacher on leave for three weeks because she stayed in a hotel in Dallas 9.5 miles from the inept hospital that had ONE fatality, now the principal of a school in Mississippi is taking off because misinformed parents were panicked because he attended his brother's funeral in Zambia. Rush Limpdick should be so proud. The saddest thing is you can see exactly the same know-nothing bullshit right here on AR. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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So - hospitals in developed countries were (are?) totally unprepared to handle Ebola cases. Is it a big problem that the media hysteria has bought that to light - and hopefully remedied? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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If Ebola was so contagious, why has Eric Duncan's family (plus 43 others who had incidental contact with Duncan and the family) been released from quarantine? It's only in the last stages of the illness that patients are capable of infecting others. As the facts are more apparent to the masses, maybe some of the hysteria will diminish... or not... ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Wow, not only a voice of reason, but on FOX! What a surprise.[/QUOTE] An accident they will take immediate steps to prevent in future. The ebola scare is bullshit, and is intended to replace scary foreigners as political theater. A school in Maine put a teacher on leave for three weeks because she stayed in a hotel in Dallas 9.5 miles from the inept hospital that had ONE fatality, now the principal of a school in Mississippi is taking off because misinformed parents were panicked because he attended his brother's funeral in Zambia. Rush Limpdick should be so proud. The saddest thing is you can see exactly the same know-nothing bullshit right here on AR.[/QUOTE] And it is not Bush's fault this time. | |||
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An accident they will take immediate steps to prevent in future. The ebola scare is bullshit, and is intended to replace scary foreigners as political theater. A school in Maine put a teacher on leave for three weeks because she stayed in a hotel in Dallas 9.5 miles from the inept hospital that had ONE fatality, now the principal of a school in Mississippi is taking off because misinformed parents were panicked because he attended his brother's funeral in Zambia. Rush Limpdick should be so proud. The saddest thing is you can see exactly the same know-nothing bullshit right here on AR.[/QUOTE] And it is not Bush's fault this time. [/QUOTE]I live in Maine and can assure you the story of the teacher is true! How ridiculous. | |||
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Matt, I don't know about Australian hospitals, but in the U.S. we have somehow just quietly come to accept sheer ineptitude in infection control in hospitals. The most-quoted number seems to be 1.7 million hospital-induced infections per year, with an estimated 150,000 or so deaths. I don't see the media hype changing that, but maybe the liability exposure will, or the fear of anal bleeding and death. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Yeah I know what you mean and I dont know what the comparison is. Australian hospitals over-all are very good but completely unprepared for this kind of infectious disease. A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Any first-class hospital can handle this disease. It is not really very infectious until the later stages, and even the Three Stooges would recognize there was a problem then. In lower-Third World conditions it's a hell of a problem, but outside West Africa and Texas it's not. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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So far, Ebola looks to be a 100% treatable disease when caught early. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Before the patient dies, all patients are potentially 100% treatable, but that does not mean they are 100% curable. The disease may not respond to treatment. Ebola - with early diagnosis and intense supportive care - will respond in many cases, lowering the mortality rate significantly from ~70% to likely less than ~50%. What that last number will be remains unknown. More experience is needed. | |||
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Well so far, Emory has a 100% cure rate. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Yeah, but it's not in Sierra Leone or Texas or some other third-world shithole "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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I am not sure where you are getting your information, but there are only 11 BEDS in the entire US equipped to handle this. Jeff | |||
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Sample size? | |||
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And that's the problem, the outbreak began in December 2013 and we still don't have enough Ebola patients in this country to obtain a large enough treatment sample size. That alone should tell you something about the disease... Maybe not so scary after all. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Hi folks, just a piece of information re this EBOLA thing; we have had one Norwegian female doctor working in Liberia for some months fighting the Ebola in hospitals. She was brought to Norway on a special aircraft approx 3-4 weeks ago infected by Ebola. Yesterday she went public and held a press conference free of the virus. She has gone through some threatment in Norway and is now desease free. At the same time Congo was yesterday decleared desease free since there has been no new findings or infected pasients during the last 6 weeks. Things are improving .... Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Anything that idiot says must be a lie! Trump just likes to see his name in print. | |||
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Statistically significant for me  Delta on its earnings call (Operator Instructions) David Koenig, The Associated Press. David Koenig (Media - The Associated Press): I think, Richard, you can answer this. Curious what you think about the CDC's decision to let that second nurse fly on that Frontier flight less than 21 days after her possible exposure to Ebola. I heard the comments earlier about your bookings; but what do you think of that decision? Richard Anderson (CEO): Well, I think Dr. Frieden was very clear in stating that the CDC made a mistake. I think what is worth noting is you really can't catch Ebola on an airplane, and the screening techniques that the government has put in place are going to detect folks coming from the risk areas in Africa, in advance of entering the United States. So I think that Dr. Frieden has done a good job answering that question. David Koenig (Media - The Associated Press): So does that mean you have confidence that the government is going to get this right? Richard Anderson (CEO): Yes. David Koenig (Media - The Associated Press): Okay. Thanks. Operator: Thomson Reuters , Jeffrey Dastin. Jeffrey Dastin (Media - Thomson Reuters): Thank you and good morning. What additional steps might Delta take to convince investors that Ebola will not impact the airline's future performance? Gil West (EVP, COO): Yes, hi. This is Gil West. Well, first, I would just point out, this isn't the first communicable disease that we have faced as an airline or an industry, and we are well versed at managing these type of events, ensuring the safety of our customers and crews. We have got a corporate safety and security staff that is in continuous dialog with the CDC and the World Health Organization, and we adhere to all their recommendations. I would just point out the virus, as I am sure you know, is extremely difficult to transmit. A person has to have symptoms to be contagious. As Richard pointed out, there are CDC screening protocols in place, in and out of all of the West African countries, as well as into the US and the EU, to prevent a person with symptoms from flying. We have also got well-established hygienic cleaning procedures and use disinfectants prior to every flight. And then the CDC -- and they continue to point out that there is virtually no risk to all air travelers no matter where you are traveling. Jeffrey Dastin (Media - Thomson Reuters): Thank you. And if I may ask a brief follow-up, has Delta taken any steps to protect itself against employees that potentially could sue the Company as Ebola spreads? Gil West (EVP, COO): On the employee side, yes. We have got -- I mean if I understood your question, when we're talking about employees, we have ongoing dialog with our flight crews, and awareness and educational campaigns, as well as provisioning the aircraft with preventative kits in case they do encounter anything unusual. Jeffrey Dastin (Media - Thomson Reuters): Thank you. Operator: Mike Sasso, Bloomberg News. Mike Sasso (Media - Bloomberg News): Yes, good morning. I just had a question. Are you seeing any reticence by pilots or flight attendants to fly certain routes? I am thinking West Africa. I did hear something about speculation that maybe high senior pilots are bidding off of those routes. Are you seeing any of that from any of your ranks of employees? Joanne Smith (EVP, Chief HR Officer): Yes, hi. This is Joanne Smith, and the answer is no. We are not seeing any pilots or flight attendants who are bidding off. It's a very flexible bidding system and certainly the opportunity for swapping trips is there. But we are not seeing any issues specific to this [cause] for Africa. Mike | |||
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Rwanda is now screening American and Spanish visitors for Ebola. All American and Spanish visitors will have to fill out a questionnaire and report their medical condition for the first 21 days of their visit. See: http://www.vocativ.com/culture...ulture/ebola-rwanda/ | |||
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People please Lagos has 20 million people and only 8 people died of Ebola.Nigeria is now Ebola free. So is Senegal and the Congo. If you believe it's so contagious , please. This thing is a Media hype to sell airtime at the African tourism industries expense . Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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