Chris,
I think he just hates a white oppressors as he called them.... charm school might be a good idea for him too. if he could find one that takes racist as students

Maybe Naki could help him??

For some reason I don't think any school will help him... Not even a NZ one..

Best those who want to book a hunt in Zimbabwe do so through the reputable guys out there... There are quite a few out there...

quote:

Originally posted by chaporonga:
There is nothing criminal about the tsking over of farms in Zimbabwe. I will not explain but you must know that there is nothing criminal. In short we took what is rightfully ours from the opresors.

Nothing criminal? You might think you can pull the wool over everyone's eyes with a statement like this but I assure you that you are underestimating the intelligence of those on the forum. I believe genocide, terrorism, corruption and utter greed to be the correct terms for those hideous acts.

quote:

Originally posted by Scriptus:
Maybe Naki could help him??

I've been waiting for someone to suggest that!

Good news is always welcomed. You have to be concerned about wildlife and ethics.

Mike

Obama is posting here under the name Chaporonga!

You can see the Chicago politics, and the politics of reparations even in Zim.

quote:

Originally posted by Navaluk:
Obama is posting here under the name Chaporonga!

You can see the Chicago politics, and the politics of reparations even in Zim.

If not...a not-so-distant relative for sure!

A perfect example of why Africa has failed its own people.

Miserably!

It looks like we may have hurt the poor little fellas feeling and he left or found his position was indefensible.

Lemme guess...

Young "Mash" (or whatever he calls himself) has been "reprimanded" by a certain Mr da Silva to "hold his piece" for "speaking the truth" and thus not endanger a "hunting business" that depends on certain individuals signing TR2's in order to get trophy animals masquerading as ration animals out of Zim?

Sorry to say, but there's NOTHING kosher about KALULU SAFARIS as far as I can see. I wonder what it took to get Adelino Sirras Pires and Fiona Claire Capstick to put their names on the Kalulu website? I wonder if Adelino (of all people) realise the size of the snake he's gotten into bed with?

"Advancing" young black Zim PH's my white arse!

From reliable sources,the poachers recently arrested in Unit 6 were convicted today.

Juan Pace of Shangwari Safaris was convicted with issues pertaining to the firearm act and has been fined will be deported. he is currently in Vic Falls jail.

Luke Chikukwa, his Zimbabwe PH was fined and his licence has been pulled.

Thanks to Nationals parks and the court system.

Martin, I really feel for you guys! WONDERFUL for the BASTARDS who have been arrested! Juan Pace is a known offender, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Really. He thoroughly deserves whatever comes his way. Deportation? Probably not a worthy sentence for the bastard...

This discussion actually started about illegal hunting in a national park which they denied & claimed a third party was fraudulently using their identity which may or may not be true but it then evolved into Chaporonga openly admitting the company hunted on seized land & what's more didn't give a flying f**k if their own clients got into very deep doo-doos after their hunt in their home country.

I'll bet that an awful lot of potential clients who would probable be unaware of that now know & will consequently steer clear so I guess we all owe Chaporonga a vote of thanks for not only entertaining us but also informing those potential clients of their dubious business ethics whilst at the same time repeatedly shooting himself in both feet!

quote:

Originally posted by martin pieters:
From reliable sources,the poachers recently arrested in Unit 6 were convicted today.

Juan Pace of Shangwari Safaris was convicted with issues pertaining to the firearm act and has been fined will be deported. he is currently in Vic Falls jail.

Luke Chikukwa, his Zimbabwe PH was fined and his licence has been pulled.

Thanks to Nationals parks and the court system.

Glad to hear that. Juan is a parasite. He has just founded a new company, named Safari Adventures Africa, to escape the problems he had with his last company Shangwari.
Had the same problems with him in Moz.

Who is Chaparonga?
lets get his real name and outfit in the open.
Make sure we dont spend our hard earned "oppressors money" with his company.

quote:

Originally posted by martin pieters:
From reliable sources,the poachers recently arrested in Unit 6 were convicted today.

Juan Pace of Shangwari Safaris was convicted with issues pertaining to the firearm act and has been fined will be deported. he is currently in Vic Falls jail.

Luke Chikukwa, his Zimbabwe PH was fined and his licence has been pulled.

Thanks to Nationals parks and the court system.

Thanks for the update Martin.

Purely out of interest - do you know if Joe da Silva played any role in this debacle?

quote:

Originally posted by martin pieters:
From reliable sources,the poachers recently arrested in Unit 6 were convicted today.

Juan Pace of Shangwari Safaris was convicted with issues pertaining to the firearm act and has been fined will be deported. he is currently in Vic Falls jail.

Luke Chikukwa, his Zimbabwe PH was fined and his licence has been pulled.

Thanks to Nationals parks and the court system.

The best news one can hear early in the morning.

quote:

Originally posted by chaporonga:
There is nothing criminal about the tsking over of farms in Zimbabwe. I will not explain but you must know that there is nothing criminal. In short we took what is rightfully ours from the opresors.

let me take a wild guess. you are a poor disenfranchised black guy trying to get back what was stolen from him by Whitey??? it is interesting though that the Zim High Court( who are a bunch of black guys) ruled YEARS ago that farm confiscation without adequate compensation WAS AND IS ILLEGAL!! LOOK IT UP, YOU IDIOT, YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING( IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, WHICH I DOUBT)

quote:

Originally posted by martin pieters:
From reliable sources,the poachers recently arrested in Unit 6 were convicted today.

Juan Pace of Shangwari Safaris was convicted with issues pertaining to the firearm act and has been fined will be deported. he is currently in Vic Falls jail.

Luke Chikukwa, his Zimbabwe PH was fined and his licence has been pulled.

Thanks to Nationals parks and the court system.

Wasn't Ray Atkinson trying to peddle hunts for Juan Pace a while back?

Yes he was. On another site, three bull elephants for $13,000 all inclusive, non exportable, average between between 40 and 78 pounds out of Vic Falls.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike70560:
Yes he was. On another site, three bull elephants for $13,000 all inclusive, non exportable, average between between 40 and 78 pounds out of Vic Falls.

Lets just hope Ray retires before he gets somebody jailed or killed

or hopefully, jailed himself! fraud by any other name is still fraud and there is no way you can shoot 3 bull elephants at that price-

quote:

Originally posted by jvw375:
Martin, I really feel for you guys! WONDERFUL for the BASTARDS who have been arrested! Juan Pace is a known offender, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Really. He thoroughly deserves whatever comes his way. Deportation? Probably not a worthy sentence for the bastard...

Juan Pace...........where have I heard that name before........

http://forums.accuratereloadin...441073741#5441073741

Brett

Thank you Brett.

I forgot about that episode.



Just sent this to the Outdoor Channel:

"To Whom It May Concern:

My name is Brett Barringer. I am an avid hunter and never miss an opportunity to watch a number of your quality shows including the Professionals, Jim Shockey's Hunting Adventures, Tracks Across Africa, and Under Wild Skies. Thank you for providing quality programming!

Unfortunately I am writing in regards to a show which I feel is highly unethical and perhaps in one episode illegal. I have watched several episodes of Lethal. Two in particular have caught my attention and unfortunately for negative/unsavory reasons. The first of these episodes was the PAC (Problem Animal Control) cape buffalo hunt conducted in Mozambique, which was aired on November 24, 2010 (I believe). The hunt itself was fine and I congratulate the hunter wholeheartedly........with one LARGE exception. The hunt was and still is illegal. Mozambique's game laws clearly state that hunting of PAC animals MUST be conducted by a game official or a licensed PH. They may not even under the guidance of a PH be conducted by a client. I emailed Mr. John Wilson the host of the show regarding this alarming matter and he replied via email saying:

"I'm sorry if the moz buffalo came across as a PAC permitted hunt. It was a fully paid permit that the local chief in the village asked us the pursue because it had been reeking havoc and took the lives of two over the past year. Sorry if it came across as a PAC. The wording was probably my fault. thanks for watching
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry"


After watching the show it was abundantly clear that Mr. Wilson referred to the hunt repeatedly throughout the show as a PAC hunt and went to great length to explain about it being a PAC hunt. Either he went on an illegal hunt and is now denying it or he's a liar and GROSSLY misrepresented the hunt to YOUR viewers. Quite frankly I'm not sure which one is worse. Mr. Wilson (knowingly or unknowingly) going on one illegal hunt is just that ONE illegal hunt. Mr. Wilson lying and GROSSLY misrepresenting his hunt could send ????? any number of YOUR viewers on illegal hunts offered to them which they are sure must be legal because it was on the Outdoor Channel. Unfortunately illegal PAC hunts in Mozambique are in fact offered from time to time. I have seen them offered myself! I'm sure you can also see the serious nature of this problem. Either way this does not speak well for Mr. Wilson's character. I sincerely hope the Outdoor Channel can find more reputable people with character to deal with in the future.

The second episode that caught my attention was the recent PAC lion hunt conducted in the Limpopo area of South Africa and aired this week. For starters I'd like to say that the taking of the kudu from the back of the truck on camera was poor TV at best and poor sportsmanship at worst. If that's what Mr. Wilson's associate would like to do and it's legal in the country he finds himself hunting by all means DO IT, but for the love of God don't televise it on national TV!!!! It does not paint hunters in a flattering light and only lends itself to the misconception that all safari hunters are pampered spoiled rich people who are chauffeured around slaughtering animals as they please out of the backs of expensive 4X4s.

My next point of contention is regarding the representation of the "PAC" lion itself. Mr. Wilson went to pain staking lengths as did his professional hunter to explain that the lion being hunted was a wild lion that came from Botswana and was now in South Africa killing cattle. Supposedly the outfitter was then given a PAC license to kill said lion. The fact of the matter is that the lion never saw the boundaries of Botswana. The only boundaries it ever saw were the bars of the cage where it was raised! And that's the truth. Call a spade a spade. The FACT is that +95% of lions taken in RSA (Republic of South Africa) are canned lions. The figure is probably much closer to 100% than 95%. The only wild lions taken in RSA are taken around the Kruger National Park and the Pilansburg National Park (read not anywhere close to where Mr. Wilson was hunting). The Limpopo area where Mr. Wilson was hunting is a common area for canned lion hunts and this one was no exception. In the same email to Mr. Wilson I addressed this matter as well and he replied:

"The lion was PAC that was taking domestic livestock. Was believed to have escaped captivity previously thanks
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry"


This response is so completely and utterly deceitful it's beyond belief. Mr. Wilson clearly knew this was not a wild lion from Botswana being hunted on a PAC license. He chose to lie through his teeth and further involve his PH by having him lie on camera as well to YOUR viewers! Although he has not admitted it this hunt was clearly for a pen raise lion that was let loose by his outfitter in an enclose area for him to hunt. Those are the facts! Aside from it being disgusting behavior on Mr. Wilson's part to blatantly lie to YOUR viewers it also lends to YOUR viewers being take for a ride by unscrupulous outfitters. The vast majority of outfitters offering canned lion hunts are very upfront about what they are selling. Unfortunately I've heard stories of outfitters going into elaborate stories of cattle killing lions from Botswana crossing the Limpopo River to con unsuspecting/ignorant clients into taking a canned lion under the guise of fair chase hunting for a wild lion. Conning people in this way is a disgusting practice. Mr. Wilson did know this was a canned lion hunt and chose to GROSSLY misrepresent it as a fair chase hunt for a wild Botswanan lion and he should be ashamed of himself! This will only lend to others being conned into taking canned lions under the wild Botswana cattle killing lion ruse. Mr. Wilson lying to YOUR audience is repulsive and unethical.

I sincerely hope you will view my comments with the attention they deserve and pass them on to the proper person responsible for dealing with Mr. Wilson. I expect better from the programs airing on the Outdoor Channel. I hope you will either help Mr. Wilson to clean up his act or preferably replace him with another show run by someone with honor and integrity! Thank you for your time and attention regarding this matter.

Happy New Year & Good Hunting!

Sincerely,

Brett Barringer"

Juan Pace was his PH on both hunts FYI.

Brett

Did you ever get a response?

No I did not Larry. I don't remember seeing John Wilson on TV recently, so with any luck he's flipping burgers or something similar outside the hunting TV industry.

Brett

i doubt it. he has the necessary skills to be our next Attourney General- a lying piece of shit- and i intentionally did not abbreviate the shit part!!!

It needs to be documented that Joe Da Silva and Mash Masonganyika ( who is a ZPHGA member ) were wrongly implicated in this poaching incident.

The accused, Juan Pace and Luke Chikukwa wrongly used Kalulu safaris name to conduct their illegal activities

Martin

THIS IS THE LATEST PHASA NEWSLETTER.

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REPORT CONCERNING PHASA MEMBER ON ACCURATE RELOADING WEB FORUM

It recently came to PHASA’s attention that certain inaccurate accusations, aimed at PHASA member Joe da Silva, were posted on the web forum Accurate Reloading on 31 May 2013 concerning the issue of poaching in Matetsi Unit 6, Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe.

Mr. da Silva brought the following to our attention:

Kalulu Safaris is currently registered in Zimbabwe and owned by Marriott Mashonynika (Mash) who is a registered outfitter and Professional Hunter in Zimbabwe. Mr. Da Silva’s role is a support role/booking agent based in Cape Town.

In the last 30 years Mr. Da Silva, as a member of PHASA, has not been involved in any illegal hunting or breaking of any laws with regards to hunting and outfitting in South Africa and across our borders.

The matter involves clients and a professional hunter that were caught poaching in Unit 6, Matetsi, using Kalulu Safaris’ name and details.

Initial investigations indicate that the professional hunter that was arrested is from the company Kholisa Safaris, Bulawayo. The said PH had fraudulently used the name, Kalulu Safaris, its HOP number and officially got a TR2 stamp by National Parks. The main director of Kholisa Safaris is Eugene Ncube, whom Mr. Da Silva does not know and with whom he has never had any dealings.

KALULU SAFARIS HAD ABSOLUTELY NO INVOLVEMENTWITH THIS ILLEGAL HUNTING ACTIVITY. Kalulu Safaris has not been charged with any misconduct or with any other charges, ever.

The entire unfortunate situation is currently under investigation.

quote:

Originally posted by leopards valley safaris:
THIS IS THE LATEST PHASA NEWSLETTER.

________________________________________
REPORT CONCERNING PHASA MEMBER ON ACCURATE RELOADING WEB FORUM

It recently came to PHASA’s attention that certain inaccurate accusations, aimed at PHASA member Joe da Silva, were posted on the web forum Accurate Reloading on 31 May 2013 concerning the issue of poaching in Matetsi Unit 6, Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe.

Mr. da Silva brought the following to our attention:

Kalulu Safaris is currently registered in Zimbabwe and owned by Marriott Mashonynika (Mash) who is a registered outfitter and Professional Hunter in Zimbabwe. Mr. Da Silva’s role is a support role/booking agent based in Cape Town.

In the last 30 years Mr. Da Silva, as a member of PHASA, has not been involved in any illegal hunting or breaking of any laws with regards to hunting and outfitting in South Africa and across our borders.

The matter involves clients and a professional hunter that were caught poaching in Unit 6, Matetsi, using Kalulu Safaris’ name and details.

Initial investigations indicate that the professional hunter that was arrested is from the company Kholisa Safaris, Bulawayo. The said PH had fraudulently used the name, Kalulu Safaris, its HOP number and officially got a TR2 stamp by National Parks. The main director of Kholisa Safaris is Eugene Ncube, whom Mr. Da Silva does not know and with whom he has never had any dealings.

KALULU SAFARIS HAD ABSOLUTELY NO INVOLVEMENTWITH THIS ILLEGAL HUNTING ACTIVITY. Kalulu Safaris has not been charged with any misconduct or with any other charges, ever.

The entire unfortunate situation is currently under investigation.

Martin, Dave,

Thank you both for clearing this up.

I hope the guilty parties get their dues.

All I can say is wow.

That still doesn't answer who 'owns' the lease on Matetsi Unit 6 and whether or not they're on the banned list?

Is it General Constantine Chiwenga and his wife Jocelyn (as previously suggested) (who are both on the banned list) or is it someone else and are they on the banned list or not?

Also, do Kalulu operate/market there and if so, in partnership with whom?

Also, who is Chaporonga and is he connected to the company named? He certainly leapt into the fray with what seemed to be informed, albeit biased and twisted opinion.

Whoever he is and whatever company he's connected with (if any) he obviously doesn't care that the 'white oppressors' could be prosecuted and face serious penalties for hunting on seized land.

These issues certainly need addressing for the safety and security of all those who are involved and all those who might be involved in the future?

The truth about Matetsi unit 6:

Matetsi unit 6 is owned by General Chiwenga (defacto ruler of Zim currently) and his wife Jocelyn...both on the list of people in Zim in which it is illegal to conduct business with if you are a US citizen.

Rob Styles of Buffalo Range Safaris has been the Chiwenga's partner for ~12 years.

quote:

Originally posted by cow-trader:
The truth about Matetsi unit 6:

Matetsi unit 6 is owned by General Chiwenga (defacto ruler of Zim currently) and his wife Jocelyn...both on the list of people in Zim in which it is illegal to conduct business with if you are a US citizen.

Rob Styles of Buffalo Range Safaris has been the Chiwenga's partner for ~12 years.

This means any hunter worth his salts will avoid them then.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by cow-trader:
The truth about Matetsi unit 6:

Matetsi unit 6 is owned by General Chiwenga (defacto ruler of Zim currently) and his wife Jocelyn...both on the list of people in Zim in which it is illegal to conduct business with if you are a US citizen.

Rob Styles of Buffalo Range Safaris has been the Chiwenga's partner for ~12 years.

This means any hunter worth his salts will avoid them then.

Especially if the hunting takes place on seized land where the 'owners' are on the banned list!

Steve,

The banned list does not affect anyone else except citizens of the United States.

But, I am sure many hunters, like me, who would never do business with anyone occupying a seized land.

There are far too many other places, run by honest families, where one can hunt.

Saeed

The US banned list does indeed only affect US residents but many/most other western countries (including the UK & EU) have similar lists with more or less the same names on them.

Penalties are not usually quite so severe as the US but the lists do exist and the penalties are not usually to be sniffed at.

I guess I should have said lists rather than list and for that I apologise.

quote:

Rob Styles of Buffalo Range Safaris has been the Chiwenga's partner for ~12 years.

Which makes him lower than shark shit.