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Originally posted by leopards valley
Nkomo means " Cow " in Zulu , Xhosa and Matabele , just saying

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Originally posted by cow-trader:

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Originally posted by cow-trader:

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Originally posted by cow-trader:

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Originally posted by Frik Muller:
cow -trader Rog Style only books none US clients into unit 6 and has not booked any US clients into unit 6 since the US banned list has been out.

Buffalo Range Safaris books all thier US clients that hunt in Matetsi into forestry areas ,this is fact.

Your statment that all goverment concession holders are indigenous or have partners is B S as well .If you dispute this feel free to comtact me.

Just post the 'official list' of concession holders.

Frik,

Where are you man??? Put your money where your mouth is. You said to contact you and I am. Post the list.

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Originally posted by cow-trader:
Frik,
I do not need further discussion as I am confident in the correctness of what I posted.

What I am interested in...is for all potential US hunters to see who the "actual lease holders" are for any government concession that they might choose to hunt.

If you will be so kind to post the list that would be helpful. Then the US hunters can check the "indigenous partners" against the banned list in the US. As there is an "indigenous partner" for all government concessions.

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Basically...everything I have stated has been corroborated by another poster. Some of the specific facts to the "hows", "whens", and "whos" are not 'exactly the same' but I don't totally agree with all the semantics either.

But the basic fact that if you hunted Matetsi Unit 6...you hunted "seized land" is undisputed. And if you are a US citizen and you hunted Matetsi Unit 6 you did business with a person on the banned list. And if you were an outfitter advertising hunts for Matetsi 6 you were fronting for the Chiwengas.

And 100% guaranteed...I have no conflict of interest.

Well, just because another person here has equally incorrect information does not make yours correct.

ie - Russ Broom had Unit 4 while Lew Games had Unit 6. Both for a short period after which they left the areas after irregularities were discovered.

The Chiwengas BOUGHT the LEASE some years ago [after the above departures I believe] It is now completely owned by the Kazengula Wildlife Safari which is controlled completely by Jocelyn Chiwenga, [the former wife of the General, who is no longer involved]and is completely indigenous.

I'm not sure how this makes it seized land as it is awarded exactly as the other Matetsi Hunting Area LEASES. In fact, prior to these hunting leases, the area was run by the Forestry Commission safari company, Ngamo Safaris, for many years.

The fact that Jocelyn Chiwenga's name is "on the list" does in fact prevent US hunters from hunting there. There have been no US hunters in Unit 6 since 2005, the year of the listing. [at least no hunter using the legal hunting operators under the control and guidance of the Parks.

So, while "...Some of the specific facts to the "hows", "whens", and "whos" are not 'exactly the same..." The story is substantially different to your opinions.

It is clear that you have some sort of grudge to settle and are not likely to change your opinion, so I will not attempt further to change your opinions. Perhaps you should discuss it with the parties involved.

Now lets get back to arresting poachers, and investigating crooked officials. I hope we can all agree on THAT!