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Has any AR member book a hunt with Joe Denby of Safari and quilts. Especially in Mozimbique (sp)? Am talking to them about combo buff/leopard. Much thanks. H Kittle | ||
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quilts???? LostHorizonsOutfitters.com ---------------------------- "You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas" Davy Crockett 1835 ---------------------------- | |||
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The outfitter at least has the resources to keep you warm at night! Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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No but they sure do post a lot of hunt specials on The Hunting Report. More then anyone else. | |||
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I have often wondered if they were any good. | |||
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Safaris and Quilts is a Booking Agent, so it would seem of primary importance to do the research on the operator that is offering the safari. According to the S&Q website, the operator in MOZ is Mbabala Safaris. I asked about them and their concessions a year or so ago and no one seemed to know much about them or the concessions. Best bet is to contact last season's clients and see what they say. Generally speaking, it seems that many of the concessions in MOZ have limited infrastructure (roads, camps, etc.) and limited game populations. Not that a little roughing it is bad, but be careful of concessions where the success rate is low. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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I have booked for this year for both Leopard and Buff. I have been talking to Joe Demby for a couple of years. I met the outfitter at SCI in Reno and it appears that it's going to be a good hunt. The outfitter and his father used to hunt with Russ Broom in Zim. I think his father is still there. The outfitter told me they take 5 leopard a year, and have not failed to get a client's leopard yet. I think it's been 4 years. Their buff are between 39" and 42" typically. I am also interested in Nyala, Sable, Croc, Hippo, Oribi and Hyena. They have permanent lodges, but the hunting is certainly not "canned," with the Buff being on foot and the leopard over bait. In any case, that's what I have learned about them. I am certainly going to do more research and would appreciate any input anyone else has on the topic. | |||
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The outfitter and his father conducted a total of 5 hunts for Russ Broom before he found out they had forged Zim PH licences...A call to Flash Vickery ( who runs Russ Broom Safaris in Zim) will confirm this, or an email to the association. zatso@mweb.co.zw | |||
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Who is he specifically? "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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Dont Recognise Mbabala safaris or the owners name... The Father and Son team that conducted a couple of hunts in Zim for Russ Broom before being exposed and caught were Grahame Taylor and his son. | |||
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Terry, The link you posted is not the same father and son team. In 2000 I was one of Carl's first clients. Anyone thinking of hunting with them can PM me for some inside information. If Ganyana searches his memory I bet he can recall the buffalo PH Ivan Bezuidenhout. Perry | |||
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I hunted with Charlie, Matt and Lindon Stanton in July of 2001. Their company went as Mbalabala Safaris, and the home ranch was near Mbalabala, Zim. We hunted plains game down South on the Chingwesi consession. I wonder if it could be them? If so, I had a great hunt and would highly recommend them. BOWHUNR NEVER BOOK A HUNT WITH JEFF BLAIR AT BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING! | |||
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Sorry, my bad. I just looked at the spelling, Mbabala vs. Mbalabala. BOWHUNR NEVER BOOK A HUNT WITH JEFF BLAIR AT BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING! | |||
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Neigther Ivan nor the Stantons are smoking that good baboon cabage (like our president smokes) and it is only if you are on that stuff that you would have anything to do with the taylors! Please Note that this is NOT mike taylor or his son from Bulawayo. They are legitimate operators- See Zim PH list. Also, Check with Toni Wicker - who occasionally frequents these forums- about who's legitimate in Mozambique. | |||
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Perry, Do you know if Carl is the PH who hunts Mozambique for Safaris and Quilts (is Carl's company Mbabala Safaris and the one menioned by Safaris and Quilts the same)? Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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Ganyana is correct, if it is the same outfitter. He was still supposed to do a hunt for Russ, and just disappeared to Moz. Later, Mike Vicory found out that he did not have a legit Zim licence. However, the concession that he bought, from Piet Hougaard (once again, if it is the same outfitter), is one of the better ones. Nico of Wintershoek hunted there a lot last year, and if you are interested in his comments, I can email / post his contact details. Karl Stumpfe Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net karl@huntingsafaris.net P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia Cell: +264 81 1285 416 Fax: +264 61 254 328 Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264 | |||
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Terry, Mbabala is owned and operated by Carl Erasmus. The hunts were being marketed by Safaris and Quilts. Carl did hunt in Mozambique last year and has buff on his ranch near Ellisras in RSA. It is interesting that Ivan Bezuidenhout is now hunting for Carl. I wonder if that means Ivan ran Cambridge Ranch Safaris into the ground and is now needing work? Perry | |||
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Thanks Perry. So back to Kittle's original question. He now has the name and website of the outfitter who conducts the MOZ safaris as booked by S&Q. That should give him some more information. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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I want to clear up the information on the hunting in Mozambique and the information about Safaris and Quilts. I am the booking agent, Joe Demby. First My website is out of date I do have Mbababla Safaris on the site but I am not booking for them now and I will get it update in a few days. I am booking for Mozunaf Safaris and their hunting area it is not a concession but the Mufa hunting area of over 200 000 hectares with varied bush types from thick river forests to Brachystegia and Miombo woodlands to huge open grasslands and floodplains. The Mufa hunting area is located in the Cheringoma district of the Sofala Province and borders the Gorongosa National Park famed for its lion and leopard populations on the western boundary and the Maramau buffalo reserve on the northern and eastern boundary and the concession no 13 in the south. The entire area is free from inhabitants and boasts a comprehensive road network throughout the area plus the area is jam packed with game. Now about Grant Taylor, He is licensed in Mozambique and Zimbabwe I have hunted with him (he was my PH when I had a hunt with Russ Broom several years ago and I also book for Russ)! Grant is an excellent PH and he and his father had very good success last year hunting European clients in the Mufa area. The person from Zimbabwe is “full of it†as Grant’s PH lic # is 3066B. The hunts we are offering are quality hunts at very good prices. I have been in the booking business for 7 years and have many satisfied clients. For those of you that ask about the quilts or made some snide comments, we make custom made hunting and fishing quilts and wall hangings. These are usually embroidered with the animals you take on a safaris, the country you hunted in and your name and date etc. and can be color coordinated to you trophy room or bed room. We also make embroidered wall hangings as decorations for trophy rooms. I do not go on accurate reloading very much but based on the garbage and BS I have seen just over this issue I am not sure if it is worth the trouble but I wanted to give you an honest answer and try to debunk some of the garbage that some people post. Thanks and good hunting, | |||
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I suppose I should mind my own business, but criticizing the whole AR Board and one of its valued posters is not the best way to introduce yourself. It is good of you to show up and provide the factual information. I know we all appreciate that. | |||
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some of the comments are obviously good but since there is no control on what members post much of what you see is not helpful and can be missleading or used as a way to try to hurt other. Guess you must take everything at face value and not as gospel. Thanks, | |||
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Joe Now either you or Mike (Flash) Vickory / Ganyana is lying about Grant's licence in Zim. as I know Flash well, and know of Ganyana's reputation through my other friends in Zim, I choose to believe them on the issue of Grant's licence in Zim. However, I know very little about Moz and offered a opinion of another trusted friend/ business associate over the area Grant has bought. I will state it once again: In Nico's opinion it is a good area. As for Grant, I will go with Ganyana's opinion... Karl Stumpfe Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net karl@huntingsafaris.net P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia Cell: +264 81 1285 416 Fax: +264 61 254 328 Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264 | |||
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I know Mike Vickery and will call him but did I miss something or was it someone else that posted the information and not Mike so you do not know if Mike actually said that or not? | |||
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I spend Christmas with Mike and his family on Kariba, and although Ganyana brought it up, Mike definately said the same thing to me. Also, while I was in Zim last year, I heard the story from Jan Stander as well. He runs the Maninga conservancy close to Doma. Karl Stumpfe Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net karl@huntingsafaris.net P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia Cell: +264 81 1285 416 Fax: +264 61 254 328 Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264 | |||
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Dear Mr. Demby, For what it's worth there is a listing of all current Zim PHs and Guides on the "Hunting Reports - Africa" Forum just two links down from the "African Big Game" Forum that we are posting in now. Mr. Taylor is not listed. I copy all the Taylors below. Taylor, Jonathan-1989 Taylor, D. Mike-2003 Taylor, Steve-1992 Taylor, Leonard-1995 Taylor, Piers E.-1976 Taylor, Richard B.-1996 Taylor, Stuart-2004 Don Heath, Zim insider, publisher of "African Hunter" and fellow AR poster, has offered to make clairifications regarding this list if necessary. You might want to Privite Message him. Best regards; Brett | |||
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Mr. Demby, Who owns and operates Mozanuf Safaris? Who has the primary lease on the Mufa hunting area? Is this your first year booking for Mozanuf Safaris? Have you hunted the Mufa hunting area? You said "Grant’s PH lic # is 3066B". I don't believe that Zimbabwe PH license numbers go that high. What is the "B" suffix on the license? Is that a restricted Guide's License as opposed to a PH's License? Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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Grant owns the company and the area lease, he just purchased it from the three Portuguese that were owners. This is the first year they have started booking US clients as European clients were only booked in the two previous years of operation except for one American, Larry sellers and I gave Mr. Kittle this reference’s email and phone number. I am going to check with Russ Broom to see if there was some problem with the license. I will check on the license number. Regardless he is licensed to hunt in Mozambique and this is a quality hunt in a one of the best hunting areas in Mozambique, four hours by vehicle north east of Beira. Thanks, | |||
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Joe Thought I'd say hi as I haven't spoken with you in a while. For what it's worth I booked a hunt to Namibia with Joe a couple of years ago, and was very content with all the arrangements and with the hunt itself. I don't have any familiarity with the Moz hunt, but Joe is reputable and will find the answer. I would also be interested in a hunt with Russ Broom for cape buffalo, so you might send me a personal message. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Hi Joe Grant Taylor has NEVER held a PH licence in Zimbabwe, nore does he hold a restricted licence. He "obtained", through bribery, an old paper licence and landed himself in trouble when he tried to upgrade to a new plastic PH licence three years ago. In return for full co-operation with the authorities who were trying to deal with the corrup parks officers he, and his father, escaped prosecution. This is a matter of public record | |||
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Thanks for all the information on Grant. I talked to him last night and have also contacted Russ Broom and am waiting on an answer from them. I will get to the bottom of this. I run an upfront and honest agency and if I offended anyone with what I said about the forum I am sorry for that. I will get with Grant and sort out this problem and see how it will effect the hunting in Mozambique. I am hopeful it will still allow us to provide an outstanding hunt opportunity for my clients. Thanks and good hunting, | |||
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Mr. Demby What information did you clear up on hunting in Mozambique other that you evidently don’t know what you talking about or worst you trying to push over well founded questions with labelling it as garbage and B S. Perhaps you should invest in a map of Mozambique, or better, visit the area you advertise and verify what you trying to sell! You got neither an idea where the area is nor the slightest clue about Mozambique hunting. The Marromeu buffalo reserve is totally enclosed by the hunting concession number 10, 11 and 14 so where are your area borders the reserve????? There area is not 200 000 hectares but more like 10 000 to 30000 hectares. I will get the exact size tomorrow from the ministry of agriculture in Maputo. I got the hunting quotas for 2006 in front of me for the whole of Mozambique there is no quota allocated for Mozunaf !!! What are you going to sell?? Please define the information on bordering the Gorongosa National Park ???? Concession No. 13 which you’re bordering in the south ??? This concession is 400 km northwest of the Mozunaf area and in Manica province. “and borders the Gorongosa National Park famed for its lion and leopard populations†This information is about 30 years outdated. “The entire area is free from inhabitants and boasts a comprehensive road network throughout the area plus the area is jam packed with game.†?? I would say you are “full of it†and not the person from Zimbabwe. Looks like this is the second Mozambique operation which you try to market you should be more careful after the first flop. Any member wishes factual info about Mozambique hunting feel free to PM me. good hunting | |||
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"first flop"? am I missing something? | |||
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Oops! You got to love the internet. Another one bites the dust. | |||
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Don't know much about Mozambique but I do know that the Gorongosa area is totally poached out. I was asked to go in and conduct a game count for a mate after a very unsuccessful safari - they didn't see a buffalo track in 17 days after which the client left in a huff. Charlie Mackie from WWF flew the plane and I did the number crunching and co-ordinated the ground count etc. Not one Buffalo seen, and only three elephants in three days of flying. | |||
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Freischuetz and Gayana: it is obvious you have an ax to grind and I cannot understand why you do not want anyone to succeed in Mozambique without your approval! You have tried very hard to cut down everything offered up. I will get back to the forum when I have additional information and I am sure Grant Taylor will come one line also to address all the issues from his side. He had several very successful hunts last year and another participant already said the area was very good but for some reason you guys are hell bent to cut us down- so be it. The hunting area is a very good area, I have hunted close to the area #10 and plan on hunting with Grant in October. He has registered his new company as Mashambanzou Safaris as he just bought out the three Portuqese owners last month. Will get back very soon with the truth to address all the allegations! Good Hunting and have a great day, | |||
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Joe There are some superb areas in mozambique and have hunted there in the past with members fom this forum. Freischuetz has a superb area near marromeu... Which is where the concession you are booking for is ... right?? Anybody want to see the results of the air survey of Gorrongosa and environs. World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) paid for the survey...And the report is available. I am merely a humble ecologist who adds up numbers. And from school zero = zero. I didn't have to go to unviversity to learn that! As for an Axe to grind with Grant Taylor... We have had alot of trouble with people reporting to be professional hunters in Zimbabwe when they are not. Grant is not. Go back and check the posts. You bought his name in not me and quoted a fictitious number. PH licences run from 1 (Bill Bedford) to 488 (Sephen Baipai). They are plastic, divers licence sized cards with a photo. IF grant is still representing himself as a Zim trained and qualified PH then he is a stupid crook. He got caught and burned once. If he is trying it again then he is beeing foolish. Or is it you trying to bump up the immage of an outfitter you are operating with? Perhaps freischuetz can look up his mozambique PH licence credentials? | |||
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Ganyana: You keep talking about the game counts for buffalo in Gorrongosa and I never said anything about buffalo out of the park it was the cats, what did you game counts find on leopard and lion? We know there is very littel buffalo in the park. Grant is on his way back to Africa and he and his father will address your allegations in a day or so and as you know there are a lot of things you have not mentioned as to your motivation and I will let the Taylors address that with you and I belive them when they tell me that both had valid PH licenses in Zimbabwe. True Grant indicated he has not renewed his license for this year but he has been traveling outside the country. Lets let him address this with you and see how it comes out and if it falls out as you have alleged so be it. Thanks, | |||
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Joe, Ganyana has been posting here on and off for quite a while and I can vouch for him being one of the good guys...He calls a spade a spade and while that might ruffle a few feathers from time to time, I've never seen any of his claims be proved to be dishonest...He has provided a lot of very useful information with regards the situation in Zim and illegal hunting for instance and I am sure he has prevented more than one member being burned in the past... Regards, Pete | |||
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