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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by Nganga:

This actually leads right back to physical fitness. Make no mistake, when you step off that charter and Andrew see's a fat out of shape old guy, he knows what he's up against. Conversely if an athletic, fit individual steps off that charter, he smiles internally and knows, He has a guy who might be able to go to that one secret place that he knows about that requires 8 hours on foot to get to. (and out again)

Just sayin...

Steve

Do I get a discount for a resting pulse of 46?

No discounts, your just expected to work harder

46 NICE!!!, whats you MHR? (and your age)

Steve

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by John Frederick:

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Originally posted by Nganga:
I'll have to disagree a bit here, By mosts definition here, as long as you worked hard and had a good time the size is of no importance? BS. were all human.

My definition would be more of a very difficult to obtain animal of a better than averagre size. If the difficulty is the only criteria, would a 30" LDE be a trophy? NOPE. It may represent a long pursuit and the result of 14 days of tracking but I hardly feel it is a worthy trophy.

This actually leads right back to physical fitness. Make no mistake, when you step off that charter and Andrew see's a fat out of shape old guy, he knows what he's up against. Conversely if an athletic, fit individual steps off that charter, he smiles internally and knows, He has a guy who might be able to go to that one secret place that he knows about that requires 8 hours on foot to get to. (and out again)

Just sayin...

Steve

Dear Mr Nganga,
please elaborate on what constitutes "a fat out of shape old guy".

I need to know if I should feel offended.

John,
thats easy, without thinking look down, can you see your shoes?

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Originally posted by John Frederick:

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by John Frederick:

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Originally posted by Nganga:
I'll have to disagree a bit here, By mosts definition here, as long as you worked hard and had a good time the size is of no importance? BS. were all human.

My definition would be more of a very difficult to obtain animal of a better than averagre size. If the difficulty is the only criteria, would a 30" LDE be a trophy? NOPE. It may represent a long pursuit and the result of 14 days of tracking but I hardly feel it is a worthy trophy.

This actually leads right back to physical fitness. Make no mistake, when you step off that charter and Andrew see's a fat out of shape old guy, he knows what he's up against. Conversely if an athletic, fit individual steps off that charter, he smiles internally and knows, He has a guy who might be able to go to that one secret place that he knows about that requires 8 hours on foot to get to. (and out again)

Just sayin...

Steve

Dear Mr Nganga,
please elaborate on what constitutes "a fat out of shape old guy".

I need to know if I should feel offended.

John,
thats easy, without thinking look down, can you see your shoes?

No, they are in my wardrobe, but I'll go and have a look if you want me to.

I still need a definition of "old".

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Originally posted by Nganga:
How many little blue pills??

I have a formula to determine old, by pills required to perform appointed task.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Jim Fixx was pretty fit. Ran marathons every weekend. He's dead, at age 53 of a heart attack. Fit means they can use a narrower coffin.

I'm six-two, two-twenty-five, and nearly sixty-one years old. Not fast, but steady. You just start out, I'll be there in time to take the shot, unless you go sheep/goat hunting.

Rich
DRSS

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Originally posted by John Frederick:

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Originally posted by Nganga:
How many little blue pills??

I have a formula to determine old, by pills required to perform appointed task.

The number of those little pills needed is entirely dependent on what the recipient of ones affection looks like.

The quantity required may vary from none, to shit loads, to "I give up".

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by John Frederick:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nganga:
How many little blue pills??

I have a formula to determine old, by pills required to perform appointed task.

The number of those little pills needed is entirely dependent on what the recipient of ones affection looks like.

The quantity required may vary from none, to shit loads, to "I give up". :

John,
Simply observe the 4 hour rule

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If you are over 25 you can't keep up with your PH/Guide anyway. It's what he does for a living, not a hobby.

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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If you are over 25 you can't keep up with your PH/Guide anyway. It's what he does for a living, not a hobby.

Wanna Bet?

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She sends her regards & sympathy.

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Originally posted by fairgame:
Professor Jud and I were holed up in the reedy fringes of the Kafue river here in Zambia and I was urging him to shoot a thirty plus inch Sitatunga. There were two bulls standing side by side like a pair of book ends. The lesser bull would go twenty seven inches and his horns were thick and supported long ivory tips. Having queried me I confirmed that both animals were indeed fully mature and yes the smaller 'trophy' was in my opinion the older animal.

He turned down the larger bull and took the twenty seven inch Sitatunga.

His comment was that for him it was a better trophy. I admired him for that.

So define 'trophy' and just out of interest is there any other crackpot out there who would have turned down a thirty inch Sitatunga?

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Originally posted by Nganga:
I'll have to disagree a bit here, By mosts definition here, as long as you worked hard and had a good time the size is of no importance? BS. were all human.

My definition would be more of a very difficult to obtain animal of a better than averagre size. If the difficulty is the only criteria, would a 30" LDE be a trophy? NOPE. It may represent a long pursuit and the result of 14 days of tracking but I hardly feel it is a worthy trophy.

This actually leads right back to physical fitness. Make no mistake, when you step off that charter and Andrew see's a fat out of shape old guy, he knows what he's up against. Conversely if an athletic, fit individual steps off that charter, he smiles internally and knows, He has a guy who might be able to go to that one secret place that he knows about that requires 8 hours on foot to get to. (and out again)

Just sayin...

Steve

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
My trophies are placed with honor, and respect, in my home.

They are, to me, a lasting tribute to the beauty, strength and dignity of the creatures themselves.

They evoke in me the powerful emotions I felt as I pursued them, and killed them, in the wild.

My trophies do not pass quickly into dust, as they would have, had it not been for my intervention.

They live on, and will live on, for at least as long as I have life, and the memory and ability to tell their stories.

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Originally posted by Tapper2:

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
My trophies are placed with honor, and respect, in my home.

They are, to me, a lasting tribute to the beauty, strength and dignity of the creatures themselves.

They evoke in me the powerful emotions I felt as I pursued them, and killed them, in the wild.

My trophies do not pass quickly into dust, as they would have, had it not been for my intervention.

They live on, and will live on, for at least as long as I have life, and the memory and ability to tell their stories.

Mike, That's the best discription of trophy hunting I have ever heard. I am sitting here beside a 39" buff that spent ten seconds trying to kill me. We had quite a dance. In the future I may take a larger one but it will never be the "trophy" this gentleman is......Tom

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:

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Originally posted by Tapper2:

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
My trophies are placed with honor, and respect, in my home.

They are, to me, a lasting tribute to the beauty, strength and dignity of the creatures themselves.

They evoke in me the powerful emotions I felt as I pursued them, and killed them, in the wild.

My trophies do not pass quickly into dust, as they would have, had it not been for my intervention.

They live on, and will live on, for at least as long as I have life, and the memory and ability to tell their stories.

Mike, That's the best discription of trophy hunting I have ever heard. I am sitting here beside a 39" buff that spent ten seconds trying to kill me. We had quite a dance. In the future I may take a larger one but it will never be the "trophy" this gentleman is......Tom

Thanks, Tapper2. It's good, once in a great while, to find a kindred spirit.

Maybe I go too far, but I even keep and mount my mistakes.

I have two trophies of immature animals I have killed. One was my mistake, the other belonged mostly, but not entirely, to my PH.

I am not proud of the mistakes; quite the contrary, I regret them immensely.

I did, however, want to memorialize the game animals themselves, as the hunts were no less difficult, and my quarry no less worthy.

Plus, in their own hard way, they do remind me of the great care I must always take before I press the trigger.