This is why they call it dangerous game hunting.

[URL=http://trophyroom.com/video/BIkAidNXYP/ ]Leopard Attack Video[/URL]

As usual I find myself rooting for the leopard, doing what he does best! How many shots were fired at him? I lost count. Still, he was an amazingly small target!
Thanks for posting, Peter.

Unbelievable. The first shot didn't look bad. What a tough animal.

Hello Caracal! How are you my friend? Why can't I view this video? What's the deal with the link? I would really like to see it...

Dave

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://trophyroom.com/video/BIkAidNXYP/ ]Leopard Attack Video[/URL]

That is amazing footage, the "double" looks like a s/s shotgun with sights on. Can anyone confirm?

Kudos to the tracker that began advancing with just his axe in hand, that my friends is real courage - you can even see by his body language that he was going to get stuck in with the axe if it hung around any longer. Pity we cannot see the footage from the other cameraman that was standing with the guy that got chewed.

Huh some close shave shooting - very lucky guy(s).

David try this (manualy), Scott IMO it is a shotgun - see the stock ammoholder when he is reloading.

another reason not to use a shotty gun

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Originally posted by David Hulme:
Hello Caracal! How are you my friend? Why can't I view this video? What's the deal with the link? I would really like to see it...

Dave

Hi Dave,
i am fine thank you ;-). Just copy this link
http://trophyroom.com/video/BIkAidNXYP/ Video and you will see.

kindest regards from germany

caracal

butchloc, I was under the impression that using a shotgun against wounded leopard was a fairly common practice eg. J.A Hunter. Can you enlighten me? I would think that heavy shot against a thin skinned animal, plus the margin of error provided by the spread would be good. It seems to me that the original shotgun shots were fired when he was too far away. In any case they were certainly ineffective!
Peter.

I would rather have my 500 Jeff and connect once than having lots of in effective pellets all over the place.

This is proof of the old argument that has been going on here on AR of shotgun vs rifle on charging leopard and this time its on video...

The got chewed and almost shot for his troubles....

These cats are lighting fast

Maybe it's just me but in the beginning of the video it looked an awful lot like the Loepard was shot at night...

Is that kosher in Zimbabwe??

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Originally posted by Wes Pryor:
Maybe it's just me but in the beginning of the video it looked an awful lot like the Loepard was shot at night...

Is that kosher in Zimbabwe??

Could have been last light, although my undestanding is it is legal on private land and maybe CAMPFIRE areas, just not government safari areas.

The cat was very fast indeed. Those little spotted guys have my complete respect.

That cat was shot with a spotlight, not illegal in CAMPFIRE areas of Zim.

That SxS doesn't look like a shotgun? I saw him load it and the rounds looked like 12 ga. but the gun looks so much like a rifle, it is hard to say.

If it was a shotgun, they fired way too early.

Of course, it is quite easy for me to criticize as I sit in my office and review it. I would like to say that if it were me I would have waited until the cat was closer ...

Quite a hair-raising event!

If you are going to use a shotgun then make sure it is a semi auto, i almost learned the hard way that 2 shots with an o/u 12 gauge loaded with copper plated 00 buck is not terribly effective, thankfully the guy next to me had a semi auto with 5 shots and when the dust had settled he only had 1 left....

If it was me I would need a clean pair of shorts...

just sayin...

Interesting how the leopard attacked the farther shooter rather than the hunter with the double rifle, who appears to be closer and in a more direct line of the charge. Does anyone know if leopards pick their target before they charge? Or do you think the blast from the double turned the leopard?

You have to admit, the horrifying screams make the video.

This was shown at the SCI Convention by the PH and his company that shot the leopard. It was my understanding that that was a double rifle, not a shotgun. They were selling the video of it. It kept drawing quite a crowd everytime they began to replay it. I watched it a couple of times there at the convention. Exciting video!

WOW!!!

The only one I would trade places with....is the guy up in the tree!!

I know I could have reached in my pants, grabbed a handful of something to throw in his eyes and have blinded the cat for sure. Of course, I would have had to change my shorts afterwards.

Roy Boy, long way from Wankie eh?

It's always easy to second guess, but I'm thinking the guy with the double rifle fired that second shot about 15 yards too early. But that leopard is moving incredibly fast so it's very understandable. Jim Corbett said there was nothing more frightening than a leapords charge and I guess he would be kinda the authority.

Chuck

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Originally posted by Peter:
As usual I find myself rooting for the leopard, doing what he does best! How many shots were fired at him? I lost count. Still, he was an amazingly small target!
Thanks for posting, Peter.

I got to agree with you (Not that I wish the Leopard to kill the hunters). Where is the sporting chance with so many guns lined up?

BTW, did any one notice the brave man who tried to come to rescue armed only with an axe while others in the background scramble to safety?

This is a great video.Thanks for sharing.

Best-
Locksley,R

Hours of boredom

4 seconds of excitement (shot in tree)

9 hours of worry

several hours of sweating blood

4 seconds of excitement

A life-time of memories

Steve you left out the 50 to 100 stiches.
other than that you got it perfect.
Always pays to shoot them good the first time

Just think that was a long charge. I've never been in one but I hear typically the cats wait until you're within 10 meters or less.
Tracking a buffalo once I had a leopard hide until I was within 10 feet before it jumped and ran. It was really cool, i had no idea he was there until I was right on top of him.

Awesome video!

Was that taken in Zim?

What were the PH's injury's?

That wasn't a very big Leopard either!

The guy who got knocked over looks like he was terribly close to having his foot shot when he kicked the leopard off.

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Originally posted by daleW:
Interesting how the leopard attacked the farther shooter rather than the hunter with the double rifle, who appears to be closer and in a more direct line of the charge. Does anyone know if leopards pick their target before they charge? Or do you think the blast from the double turned the leopard?

You have to admit, the horrifying screams make the video.

when i hunted leopard in Bots with dogs, my PH told me the when the leopard was bayed and we closed in, the leopard would make eye contact with one person and a charge would ensue. that person might be a dog handler, a tracker, him or me but that the leopard would instantly make up his mind and come. that is exactly what he did. as we closed in the leopard locked eyes with me(what luck??), charged and was dropped less than 10 feet off the muzzle with a load of 12 gauge SSG to the chest/neck. THE WHOLE THING WAS OVER IN LESS THAN 4 SECONDS FROM THE TIME WE WALKED UP.. i think shotguns are fine for this provided you are up close and personal. the pattern spread for my shot was about 5-6 inches and 12 pellets of buckshot fro a 12 gauge at that range is lethal on something as small and thin skinned as a leopard. the key to shotgun usage is CLOSE RANGE.

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Originally posted by Sevens:
The guy who got knocked over looks like he was terribly close to having his foot shot when he kicked the leopard off.

Yes! That final shot looked like it easily could have taken the fellow's lower leg off....

My PH told me if we had a wounded leopard and it came for him, not to shoot unless my muzzle was pressed up against the leopard and the bullet path was clear, on the idea that a moment or two more of chewing from a leopard is better than getting shot.

He did not believe in giving his trackers firearms, and told me on previous hunts he often would leave the client behind for fear of being shot...

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If it was a shotgun, they fired way too early.

BINGO!!

"Fix bayonets!"

I saw the video in Reno at their booth, i nearly wet myself - the guys is screaming "eina" - "vootsek" meaning "ouch" - "piss off"

10/10 to the tracker who wanted to jump in and help his Bwana with an ax that should be in some showroom on african artifacts.

The guys nearly had his knee shot off at the last shot - close

That story will go around the campfires for years to come.

That is definitely a 12-bore shotgun. Look at the shell pack on the side of the stock and the open breech when he re-loads.

The breech ends of the barrels are too thin for it to be a double rifle and the bore is too big.

Very good video footage.

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Kudos to the tracker that began advancing with just his axe in hand, that my friends is real courage - you can even see by his body language that he was going to get stuck in with the axe if it hung around any longer.

+1

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Originally posted by Peter:
As usual I find myself rooting for the leopard, doing what he does best! How many shots were fired at him? I lost count. Still, he was an amazingly small target!
Thanks for posting, Peter.


I got to agree with you (Not that I wish the Leopard to kill the hunters). Where is the sporting chance with so many guns lined up?

Might I ask, why would you chose the leopard over a human? The PH, the sport, trackers, etc. were completing their obligation to dispatch the leopard. I just don't understand why anyone would make such a choice.

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Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:


Where is the sporting chance with so many guns lined up?



Best-
Locksley,R

It still got one of the hunters didn't it? With a wounded leopard (or any dangerous game animal) sporting chances are not part of the equation. Many highly experienced hunters who have been mauled, gored, etc will attest to this. Follow up fully locked and loaded and make use of any advantage you possibly can, is what I say. When Ian Piercy was running Zambezi Hunters he had a rule - if any dangerous game animal was wounded, all hunting in Dande immediately ceased and the other PH's came to help.

Dave

I think it was Boddington (I could easily be wrong) who wrote an article about the lack of effectiveness of shotguns---poor penetration. If I recall, I think they said that SSG was quite superior to American 00 buck. For this reason, some prefer rifles for followup.

From the few leopard charges I have seen (videos), I don't have a lot of confidence I would be accurate with a heavy rifle and would worry about hitting someone else. The best rig that I've seen used was a Benelli semiauto loaded with SSG. Light, points well, little recoil, fast repeat shots.

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Originally posted by JohnDL:

I don't have a lot of confidence I would be accurate with a heavy rifle and would worry about hitting someone else.

Exactly how I feel...

Gary Kelly who has shot a few Kalahari leopard off the truck while they were in full charges swears by 12 ga magnum 000.

Mark

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Originally posted by Peter:
As usual I find myself rooting for the leopard, doing what he does best! How many shots were fired at him? I lost count. Still, he was an amazingly small target!



I got to agree with you (Not that I wish the Leopard to kill the hunters). Where is the sporting chance with so many guns lined up?


Might I ask, why would you chose the leopard over a human? The PH, the sport, trackers, etc. were completing their obligation to dispatch the leopard. I just don't understand why anyone would make such a choice.

Romo, because I admire what in human terms would be called heroic bravery, if that term had not already been prostituted to describe getting up in the morning. The cat was outnumbered and outgunned, but he came anyway. As to chosing the cat over a human, yes, if the human was someone like Michael Vick.
Peter.