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Be honest!!

Having just completed Safaris in Namibia and Zambia and expecting the experience to be different than any previous hunts in the US and Alaska, I found myself surprised at how nervous I felt before the first animal in each location.

All my previous hunts were self guided including my Brown Bear. I felt no jitters on any of those. Yet I did in Africa. It passed quickly after the first animal was in the salt but it still surprised me.

The only thing I can figure is perhaps it was "performance anxiety" brought on by having a stranger that happened to be a professional hunter standing beside me.

After reading Ivan Carters thread about being on the other side of the coin during his Elk hunt and the fact he learned from it, I just started to wonder if other hunters felt the same jitters I did? As I said they passed quickly with success.


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Naah, it's just part of the fun.

Big Grin

It's when the buggers stop, stiffen and put the sticks up that get's you, it's a case of "you're on sunshine"

In my case I get the fever when the sticks go up, I have to calm myself for the shot but afterwards I'm pieces again.

I would go so far as to say that i'll stop hunting the day it stops having that effect on me.
 
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Naah, it's just part of the fun.

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It's when the buggers stop, stiffen and put the sticks up that get's you, it's a case of "you're on sunshine"

In my case I get the fever when the sticks go up, I have to calm myself for the shot but afterwards I'm pieces again.

I would go so far as to say that i'll stop hunting the day it stops having that effect on me.


Well put. As soon as hunting stops having that effect on me, I'll quit and take up golf.


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Just a little snip-it from my most recent hunt.

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After lunch, we found ourselves making our back over to our look out points trying to locate the kudu bulls again. We stopped one of our normal look out locations which we always stopped, which would give us a look across the canyon for the kudu bulls, as well as a look back up the mountain towards where the mountain reedbuck herd was feeding earlier in the morning. We couldn’t locate the bulls because there was a bluish, smoky haze in the valley canyon from inland fires obstructing our view across the canyon.

As we were making our way back to the Land Cruiser, I noticed a duiker ram run across the road behind the vehicle.

Andrew responded, “Too small.”

As I was beginning to get into the truck, I and noticed a second duiker coming across the road.

“How about that one?” I asked as I began to put my gun into the truck.

“He’s old and big.” Andrew replied while looking thru the Cruiser at me.

I kind of nodded in the general direction of the duiker in a sort of question like should we follow? Andrew’s response was a simple nodding of the head saying yes.

We followed the slope of the land trying to skirt around the patch of trees and brush the duikers had disappeared into. After not being able to locate them, we went back around towards the road and slowly started picking the brush apart. Eventually, Andrew located the second, old duiker feeding under the cover of a thorn bush. We slowly stepped to our right and sort of snuggled into the thorn bush we were standing next to. I got set up on the sticks and watch the little guy nibbling on the leaves of the thorn bush. Then, he realized we were there and turned head on towards us, staring in our direction. Everything was perfect, the duiker was only about 30-40 yards away, the power of the scope was turned down to 5 and I was rock steady on the sticks.

After several minutes, the duiker moved our from under the bush and turned more to what appeared to be a broadside position.

Andrew whispered into my ear, “Get ready he’s about to move into the open.”

At that moment, my right leg suddenly disconnected from the rest of my body. It started to shake uncontrollably. It was like it was trying to do the “River Dance” all by its self. I took a few deep breaths and tried to sturdy my jig dancing right leg.

Andrew asked, “Can you see his shoulder? I think he is about to run.”

“I can see just behind his shoulder like a lung shot on a whitetail” was the response.

“Is the brush in the way?”

“No, I think I can thread it thru there.”

“If you think you can make the shot, take it.”

It was then I noticed my right leg had deciding dancing was not the correct thing to be doing. I steadied the crosshairs in the center of the roughly 2 inch by 2 inch hole I was shooting thru and squeezed the trigger. At the report, I could only see the duiker flipping and flopping like a fish out of water. We walked around the backside of the thorn bush and collected the tiny trophy.


I'd say it happens to everyone, or at least it should!!!


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Very nervous. I didn't expect it either.
I wondered about you Frostbit. There was a ton of attention on your hunt, starting with the Harry Selby endorsement of your perfect safari rifle. Everything worked out great, but just think about writing your report if a few things had really went south.

When I took my first day sight in shots in Zambia, I think I seriously got buck fever. I think it was just the fact that everything you read, states that is when your PH will evaluate you. Luckily I really settled down and shot better than I even thought I would.

I totally agree with Ivan. The PH's that complain about client's shooting, should try reversing the roles.


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At that moment, my right leg suddenly disconnected from the rest of my body. It started to shake uncontrollably. It was like it was trying to do the “River Dance” all by its self. I took a few deep breaths and tried to sturdy my jig dancing right leg.


I think it is just part of the safari experience. I was dancing my own "River Dance" in '07 as we waited a whole hour on the sticks for a monster bushbuck that I wanted very badly. I got the bushbuck but you would have thought it was my first hunt ever if you had watched my right leg. I think the tension has to come out some way and your leg volunteers to be the outlet.

As others have implied if you did not get a little nervous it probably would not be half the fun.

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Very nervous. I didn't expect it either.
I wondered about you Frostbit. There was a ton of attention on your hunt, starting with the Harry Selby endorsement of your perfect safari rifle. Everything worked out great, but just think about writing your report if a few things had really went south.

When I took my first day sight in shots in Zambia, I think I seriously got buck fever. I think it was just the fact that everything you read, states that is when your PH will evaluate you. Luckily I really settled down and shot better than I even thought I would.

I totally agree with Ivan. The PH's that complain about client's shooting, should try reversing the roles.


Well said!! Both Malan in Namibia and Johnny in Zambia, I think, are used to seeing folks like us that maybe have some nerves.

When I was sighting in with Johnny I was laying across the hood of the cruiser. It felt awkward but I took the shot anyway. It was high right. Johnny remarked my scope must have gotten "bumped". I told him the shot felt terrible let me position myself the way I want. I drilled the next two dead on.

When I go back (notice it didn't say if) I don't think the presence of a PH will bother me near as much. I think it was some strange "I have something to prove" thing.

Man I was nervous on the Croc since it was first up. I related that in my hunt report story. It turned out to be one of the best and funniest moments of the trip and helped Johnny and I to really hit it off.


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At that moment, my right leg suddenly disconnected from the rest of my body. It started to shake uncontrollably. It was like it was trying to do the “River Dance” all by its self. I took a few deep breaths and tried to sturdy my jig dancing right leg.


I think it is just part of the safari experience. I was dancing my own "River Dance" in '07 as we waited a whole hour on the sticks for a monster bushbuck that I wanted very badly. I got the bushbuck but you would have thought it was my first hunt ever if you had watched my right leg. I think the tension has to come out some way and your leg volunteers to be the outlet.

As others have implied if you did not get a little nervous it probably would not be half the fun.

Mark


When Malan and I were chasing Black Wildebeest around we had a couple of great stalks. On one I got on the sticks about 250 yards out and stayed on them for at least 45 minutes waiting for the two shootable bulls to stand free of the cows. It never happened. My right arm fell totally asleep holding the rifle still on the sticks. The freaking Wildebeest layed down.


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without a doubt the worst case of buck fever I have ever had in my life was the first time I jerked flinched closed my eyes lost all muzzle control and fired at a standing broad side water buck. I felt like a school boy who had just be caught by his mates wanking while looking at an ugly girl. I was way way passed nervous. I had know Idea what it was like to be shooting with others watching. and I felt like hammered crap after I missed three times
 
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I felt like a school boy who had just be caught by his mates wanking while looking at an ugly girl.


One trip with Steve and you're talking like a Limey? Big Grin


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I was exactly the same for the first animal I 'tried' to shoot in Africa. Part of it is knowing in the back of your mind the money invested, part of it was being on a guided hunt for the first time and most of it was me gettin g 'worked up' over being in Africa hunting, at last.

It is when you are having these problems that you find out if you have a real proffessional hunter or just a guide.

I agree with other posters. If you don't or have never felt like that, then it is time to give up hunting.
 
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I was exactly the same for the first animal I 'tried' to shoot in Africa. Part of it is knowing in the back of your mind the money invested, part of it was being on a guided hunt for the first time and most of it was me gettin g 'worked up' over being in Africa hunting, at last.

It is when you are having these problems that you find out if you have a real proffessional hunter or just a guide.

I agree with other posters. If you don't or have never felt like that, then it is time to give up hunting.


Johnny never said a word about my rifle barrel doing figure 8's when I went on the sticks for the Croc. I took my time and breathed myself into calm.

Afterwards, feeling high from the experience, I confided how nervous I was. Johnny just remarked, "I saw your barrel moving all over the place". I think it worked out well he didn't try and "calm me down" with words. He just let me handle it and it worked out perfectly. Well perfectly 7 rounds later. Big Grin


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YA he is a bad bad influence. I used to talk like a hillbilly now I talk like a deranged hillbilly!!!! come to think of it I sound just like Steve jumping jumping
 
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So nervous that I missed my animal clean at about 80 yards broad-side. Smacked my next one frontal shot in the the chest at about 120. First shot I'd missed in 3 years....I hate nerves!!!!


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Naah, it's just part of the fun.

Big Grin

It's when the buggers stop, stiffen and put the sticks up that get's you, it's a case of "you're on sunshine"

In my case I get the fever when the sticks go up, I have to calm myself for the shot but afterwards I'm pieces again.

I would go so far as to say that i'll stop hunting the day it stops having that effect on me.


That says it all for me as well.
 
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Shaking hands, knocking knees, racing pulse as the quarry comes closer ..... God , I pray it never ends.


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Greeff walked me into a number of Buffalo herds before I took my first with no nervousnesss,,,,still dont know why I totally missed my first opp broadside at a Leopard on same hunt....
 
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My PH has repeatedly said I get too nervous, which I doth protest vehemently. But after I missed a klippy a few years ago, he swore I kept asking "Which one, which one?" (they're almost always with a female) when he first started glassing. "How the f@#$ am I supposed to know in an instant?" he said, then did this sniffing routine. I haven't laughed that hard in about 10 years; so hard I believe the trackers thought I was "touched".
 
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I was VERY nervous up to the point the plane landed in Namibia. Then I was too excited and giddy to really think about it. My first day out hunting I was pretty calm, tried to stay professional, and didn't over-analyze, which I have a very bad habit of doing. I figured I was there, I had many days to hunt, and I felt confident, but not over-confident, in my skills. Maybe I'm just war-weary regarding pressure and nerves (I work in an ER and have seen a lot of horrible things, been in very high-pressure, tense situations) - maybe I'm just numb to it. But there wasn't a single time during my entire hunt, with any animal, where I got the jitters, nerves, etc. Maybe there's something wrong with me? (Well, other than the usual) Smiler


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I always look forward to a hunt with anticipation that builds to a fever pitch, but I find myself surprisingly calm and collected at the time of the shot. When the animal is down it's as if the pressure is off and I feel free to go to pieces. My first African animal, a gemsbok, was a particularly memorable experience, and I remember walking up to it and wiping my hand furiously on my pants before touching it.

Later on that trip, on the buffalo portion of the hunt, it all happened so fast that I really didn't have time to get too worked up before the shot. Afterwards, as I knelt down next to an animal of which I had dreamt for 40+ years, I had to fight hard to control my tears...without total success. I actually found it quite impossible to smile for the trophy photos.

I don't ever worry about losing that rush...I can't believe that will happen.

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Oh, Yeah! Went on my first safari a year ago June after a full six months in Iraq...without being allowed to fire a rifle. My first day was very bad with three straight misses. Our PH, a cross between "the Gunny" and an German SS training instructor, was not very impressed or kind. I deserved his criticism. Made up for it the next day and the following days. No, I was still nervous, but fought hard to control it.


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I think I am at my most nervous when checking the rifles -- code for letting the PH see if you can shoot. You may get an unstable rest, a target made with a black magic marker at an unknown distance, and the rifle(s) just went through the baggage "handlers" careful caress -- no pressure. Eeker
 
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I used to shoot competively, so I don't get nervous when I aim, but I worry constantly. The more a hunt costs, the more I worry about little things screwing up the hunt. Even having a death in the family while I am over there crosses my mind. I worry about my business. A sat phone can do wonders. But of all the bad news one can get, we need to remember the worst news of all: someday we are all going to die. Life is fleeting.


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I used to shoot competively, so I don't get nervous when I aim, but I worry constantly. The more a hunt costs, the more I worry about little things screwing up the hunt. Even having a death in the family while I am over there crosses my mind. I worry about my business. A sat phone can do wonders. But of all the bad news one can get, we need to remember the worst news of all: someday we are all going to die. Life is fleeting.


Thanks for the cheery thought. Roll Eyes

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I think I am at my most nervous when checking the rifles -- code for letting the PH see if you can shoot. You may get an unstable rest, a target made with a black magic marker at an unknown distance, and the rifle(s) just went through the baggage "handlers" careful caress -- no pressure. Eeker


When I hunt with a PH that I have not hunted with before, this is the part that makes me nervous; that first shot, and there is usually a big group watching - PH, trackers, etc. Sure feels good when you ace it.
 
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I felt like a school boy who had just be caught by his mates wanking while looking at an ugly girl.


One trip with Steve and you're talking like a Limey? Big Grin



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YA he is a bad bad influence. I used to talk like a hillbilly now I talk like a deranged hillbilly!!!! come to think of it I sound just like Steve jumping jumping


The truth is I've been recruited by the British Cultural Preservation Association and they've given me the secret task of re-civilising the USA...... or at the very least, making you regret ever holding the Boston tea party.

My next step is trying to get you guys to start using proper British profanites.

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Bloody Hell Steve.... good luck with us !

Nervous... yes, but a good kind of nervous.
I am looking forward to being nervous again next year !
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Andy,

Awfully good start old chap.

Our next step must be to get a few more of the buggers joining the team and then we'll also be able to start lessons in Cockney rhyming slang.

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i don't know if nervous is the right word but if i don't get as excited when a quail flushes as i do when a buffalo steps out i will give up hunting forever. i think the feeling is somewhere between excitement and nervous but whatever it is i love it.
 
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Steve,
you are a bigger wanker than I thought you c$%t
 
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Hook,

10 out of 10 for British humour and friendly insults. Wink

Your next mission should you decide to accept it is to learn to drink Earl Grey in the absence of good Uganda tea. Don't forget to extend the pinkie of the hand holding the cup. rotflmo

Your next lesson is to learn the following before next week.

Apples & pears = stairs.
Trouble & strife = wife.
Dog & bone = phone
Plates o' meat = feet
Tit for tat (or just titfa) = hat

You will be tested on these aforementioned subjects.

Further homework will be to study how to vote in a left wing Government with a lying, treasonous leader who will give your country, culture and national wealth away to anyone who asks.

Oh no. Forget that one........ you've all, done that one already!

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tell the saint mission accepeted jumping jumping
 
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I get a "rush" in anticipation of getting the opportunity to shoot,,, I mainly bow hunt so I am usually very close to the animal but I really do not get the shakes or a bad case of the "nerves" untill after I shoot. Then all heck breaks loose in my body and no intelligent words come out of my mouth,, my hands shake, the adrenaline rush has me in "Hyperdrive" for a long time. And I love it!


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after I shoot I tend to beat the crap out of the PH I'm so happy with the animal on the ground rotflmo
 
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My first buff 3wks ago, I don't recall an increase in pulse or breathing, but my mouth was really dry, like no spit at all.
 
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Your next mission should you decide to accept it is to learn to drink Earl Grey in the absence of good Uganda tea.


My wife's a big tea drinker and brought Yorkshire Gold with her to Namibia and Zambia. She had Johnny du Plooy hooked by the time we left.


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I work in an ER, too.
But compared to flying in a small plane, and landing on a dirt strip, "hunting" anywhere in Africa not a nervous thing.
But being very close to elephants, lions, and hippos is still a nervous "position" to be in.


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Far and away more nervous about the taxidermy!!!!!


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I was not nervous at all on my first safari. Not the shooting, not the buffalo hunting, not the travel. It was definitely "ignorance is bliss".

Now I'm a nervous wreck until I get to camp with my rifle and gear intact! After that, I worry about finding my main quarry.

Last year's safari with Muchinga, when I took my buffalo on the first day, I was the most relaxed I've been since that first safari! No pressure on myself. (This year, though, I was back to worrying about all the details until my buffalo was down on day 8.)

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