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ZK, I can't help but laugh. Just make sure that you keep your insanity to typing words rather than harming people and be ready when it's time to head for the mothership.  | |||
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Saeed, With all due respect I strongly suggest that you seek out the advice of some of the other successful forum owners out there. Just as hunters seek advice and learn from other hunters I am sure that you can learn from interacting with other forum owners. I subscribe to a few very popular forums of a technical/hobby nature. The majority of them have very on-topic and useful discussions with a great sense of community - many of the people know each other, as much if not more than AR. On the other hand, other than a little petty sniping and a few arguments that get out of hand they have very little of the virulent, inflammatory discourse that I so often see on here. There are also some techniques and technologies available to counter some of these proxy logins and other shenanigans. | |||
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Most other forum owners are out to make a buck. Saeed is not. Personally, I have not seen a perfect forum, but AR comes the closest. | |||
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You sir are just low life. | |||
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That's the description I was looking for as well. A low life. Shameful comments toward what by all accounts is a very nice, nice looking, and classy lady. I suppose these trolls get some sick enjoyment out of jerking people's chains but I can't for the life of me understand why someone would take such a cheap shot at a lady. It's uncalled for and insulting to anyone with a sense of decency. | |||
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I don't think his parents loved him enough to teach him any manners or morals. Shame on him. | |||
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I opened up some of the posts from Frostbit's hunts that also included pics of who I assume is Bait babe. Frostbit I say the following with the greatest of respect for you and your wife.... that is one fine looking young lady! You are truly blessed to have a wife who participates with you on your hunts. ZK I have to assume that there is a little white around your eyes. If so that would be the only proof, you would have, that you are not completely full of shit. | |||
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Some have suggested that there is no discipline or calls for polite discussion on AR...this is not true. The following was posted by an AR moderator MS Hitman on the handgun hunting topic thread. MS Hitman calls for decorum. "I'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone I expect a lot more decorum and courtesy on this forum than I have been seeing lately. This does not mean we all have to agree on everything. We may just have to agree to disagree, but I do believe we need to react as if we were in the same room with each other when responding to a post. Everyone take a moment to brush the chips off your shoulders and let's quit this nonsense. I can't even let my children look at this forum because of the language that is being typed and the attitudes of people who are supposed to act as adults. Either clean this forum up and behave or I am going to be working with the administrator to have the offending individuals removed. Everyone is a guest here because I'm sure no none pays a dime to help keep the thing going . You'd be surprised how hard simple is on some people. If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out." Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt | |||
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I don't want Saeed to change the way he runs AR. The IGNORE function is a wonderful thing. When I discover someone that is just too offensive for my taste, I simply put them on IGNORE & go on reading the post of those I enjoy. Some on here enjoy arguing with the village idiots, let them if they choose. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Looks like the local troll migration has begun. I've not had anyone on ignore here for years but in the last little while I've put three degenerates on ignore. Shootaway, Trax and now this loser ZK. BTW did you guys notice that ZK was fully supporting shootaway over on the double thread. Birds of a feather and all.... | |||
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Please leave it like it is. Debate and free speech are good things. I think people are giving ZK way to much attention. He is stirring the pot any way possible to try and agitate people to see what kind of response he can get. | |||
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Oh and just BTW shootaway is Zombie killer in case some folks hadn't figured it out yet. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I do not think so. Hard as it may be to believe, I think they are actually two different a-holes not one. While I think George is definitely like a piece of cheese that has gone bad, I find it hard to believe that he would actually insult a woman. He is certainly not above spreading his drivel around with other members, but personally I cannot see him being insulting to women. No doubt about it in my mind, while they may be birds of a feather, Zombie Breathe is certainly the more despicable of the two. Mike | |||
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I 100% agree Mike. Remember,ZK pimped the Safari Rifles forum. George was never on SR to my knowledge . They are not the same person. | |||
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In behalf of ZK, this troglodyte, maybe you check out this guy. http://forums.accuratereloadin...=627102782#627102782 At least he used the same avatar as ZK and note the statements he spreaded – quite shallow minded as well. is Bear in mind he also attacked the host of this site in a very primitive manner. Off course, this is not a proof, but maybe an indication. Daniel | |||
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I would not change the way AR is run. My suggestion is that we would be prudent to be a little more patient before we leap into accusations and counter accusations when something serious, such as a conflict between an outfitter and client, or an accident on a hunt occurs. Frequently we respond like hungry dogs to a free steak and sides are taken and charges leveled before the real facts are known. I believe it is the "trial by internet" syndrome that chases people away rather then the occasional presence of trolls. For those like ZK, the best answer is to ignore his posts. He is simply trying to get attention, deny it and he will go somewhere else. I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge by participating here. PHs, experienced hunters and those who simply ask questions have all made me, I hope, a better hunter. Hopefully one of my occasional comments has helped someone else. I simply find it sad that others who could be great sources of information are discouraged because we tend to be too quick on the trigger. The solution isn't new rules, it is rather taking a deep breath and thinking before we hit "post now" | |||
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Well, whoever ZK may be, he is a despicable and pathetic example of a human being.  ~Ann   | |||
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I can certainly understand why some hunting industry business owners may not want to post on AR. As Wendell pointed out it is a double edged sword that you can wield with benefit but also be cut by the same sword. Wendell is as good an example as anyone. He has a good reputation, yet ended up a victim of a lengthy thread about some trophies hung up in another country. That story ended happily and interestingly the initial author disappeared from AR without as much as a thank you. So how does that sword analogy apply to posters that frequent AR and do not have a business interest in the hunting industry? My personal experience is this. I came here initially with a “Google Search” for African hunting. I used AR to help me regain contact with Mark Young and also allow my OCD driven nature to research possibilities and expectations for my pending hunt. Having never been to Africa, nor ever booking a guided hunt before, the information I learned was invaluable. For me, that research and anticipation only enhances the entire experience. I stayed as a contributor and I continue to learn from most who post here. In the last five years, thanks to AR, I met my taxidermist, Jerry Huffaker. He and Wendell have enjoyed the hospitality of my home and we have enjoyed their company. They are good folks. I met Brett Barringer. He is a fine young man half my age that I am proud to call my friend. My wife and I will be at his wedding in one month. I take great pleasure in trying my best to embarrass him by answering the question posed to me by his other friends at social event about how we met…”I met Brett on the internet”.  I made initial contact with Andrew Baldry via AR. One needs only to read the 2012 Zambia hunt report to know what the result of that contact brought. Andrew remains our friend, stays in close contact, and was devastated by Joyce’s cancer diagnosis. He’s a tootsie roll pop, tough on the outside and quite soft in the center. I’ve met and have become close friends with Darin & Bob Nelson. Darin spent time at Gunsite with Joyce and they are the best of friends. We have hunts booked in 2015 with Buzz Charlton and Derek Littleton. AR provided the link to the information I needed to choose them as our partners in these pending hunts. As much as I tease Biebs about being the Darth Vader of Blaser rifles, I met him on AR and he sent me a $4,500 (non-blaser) rifle via the classifieds even before my check hit the mail. That’s trust based solely on an internet persona. I paid that trust forward by shipping a Swaro spotting scope to a gentleman in Texas before receiving the funds. Those same classifieds have brought me two fantastic deals on old English Double Rifles. I had the pleasure of briefly meeting Mr. Larry Shores in Fairbanks during last Sheep season. After seeing all he has selflessly done for Stu Taylor this last year I consider that meeting an honor. So there is your up side of AR and those choosing to avoid this site potentially miss out on that benefit. The down side of AR. The chaff!! The disgusting statements recently in this thread concerning my wife of 40 years pale when compared to the statement by the same author concerning our benevolent host of this totally free website.
When I read the vile statements about Joyce it did initially bother me. Why wouldn't it. I mentioned them to Joyce (she only reads AR when I point something out), she laughed. I suppose ZK and his statements mean even less to her than the mosquito I considered him to be. It's up to Saeed and the Moderators to decide what's appropriate on here but once censorship starts it usually grows and that may well hurt this site. I say leave the place as is. Lastly, since I've been accused of pimping my wife here's a picture of the 60 year old ugly, lesbian, dyke while on chemo and sporting a wig.  ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Frostbit You are a lucky man | |||
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I've always had a fond spot in my heart for 60 year old lesbian, dyke's on chemo and love the wig. Ugly just don't fit in there my friend. And I somehow doubt that the other stuff you typed doesn't apply either. She's definitely a keeper.  | |||
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I have respectfully asked ZK for his location and contact info. I think it important we meet. Perhaps he is not understanding? Jeff | |||
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I'll say it again "that's one hot mama!" Maybe, just maybe ZK is limp wristed. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I understand the comments about censorship, free speech, using ignore, the difficulty in drawing lines, etc. and I think that is all true in 99% of the cases. I also feel, however, that there are some comments and statements that are so beyond the pale, so distasteful, so non-germane and uncalled for, so highly personal and immature that to ignore the comments and not take action is wrongheaded. In fact when no action is taken in those circumstances it makes you wonder whether the decision has less to do with free speech and more to do with sort of enjoying having active controversy to keep interest up. Mike | |||
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Bwana Bunduki, perhaps we should offer him a free ride. Anyone here drive an ambulance? | |||
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I don't drive them anymore. But I have made it necessary for a few folks to have a ride in them over the years. Zombie Killer is a coward of the utmost degree and you'll not ever meet him. He'll huff and he'll puff but in the end he will remain an anonymous quivering little coward who hides behind his computer screen. BTW there have been folks kicked off of here for less. I have no idea what the metric is but it doesn't make much sense to me. | |||
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Buying the following for my girlfriend's Goth daughter. Maybe we can put it to good use. http://www.ebay.com/itm/CALIFO...rksid=p2047675.l2557 | |||
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Frostbite, I just said a prayer for Joyce & you. You both are very brave people. God bless. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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That would be a badass ride for a youngin'. Heck I might buy it out from under you. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Saeed your website and forum is warm place to be dont change that free speech even if some abuse it. Frosbite nothing else to be said after your posting. all our prayers to you and your wonderful wife. Phil | |||
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Frostbit, I am sorry to hear about your wife's illness. Best wishes for speedy healing and a long life. Rich God Bless both of you. | |||
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zk, if you spoke about my family like that, I would pay the necessary $$$ to a Computer Expert PI to find you. you would spend your final days cursing the woman who bore you, and the man that made it happen. | |||
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What's curious is the standard -- absence of a standard -- arbitrary application of a standard -- evolving standard -- whatever -- for being "banned". Dan McCarthy, someone who actually had knowledge and experience to contribute to the forum and did so regularly, is banned, yet someone like Zombie Breathe who adds absolutely nothing of socially redeeming value is allowed to vilely insult someone in a completely disgusting way and their right to do so is defended. Go figure. Mike | |||
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Man, some people's children!!!!! Bwana Bunduki, trust me on this one. Send ZK to Surestrike's house instead. His handle here on AR is what it is for a reason!! I always try to keep my conversations with him polite - cause I've met him in person, and he only lives 45 min from me.  | |||
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You couldn't find your way out of a piss soaked paper sack you old fool. The only thing more ridiculous than your avatar is your toothless threats. | |||
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Frostbit, In my opinion you are one lucky man and I wish the best to you both. Now, how to I do that "ignore thing" again for ZK? Hell, I'm getting good at it. | |||
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Why would you want to put me on ignore? I did nothing to you. | |||
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ZK, You are obnoxious and annoying. People don't like you here, but I suppose that's universal. Why don't you just go away? Don't bother to respond to me, nothing you say could interest me in the least and my next post will be to put you on "ignore". | |||
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How will I know if you put me on ignore? | |||
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Come to think of it, why don't we all just put ZK on ignore? Then he could just talk to himself, like he probably does most of the time anyway. | |||
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