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All this talk about broadheads makes me want to show you my real favorite broadhead for deer/hogs....stone! I started flintknapping five years ago to learn how to make stone hunting points.   recent hog kill, Tallahatta Quartzite stone point. Hog ran maybe 70 yards and down,   even managed a gobbler this spring....four yard neck shot.  11 point buck from 07 season...   troy Birmingham, Al | ||
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Troy, Very Impressive! It seems to me that a smaller stone head could be more easily secured to the shaft? Have you experienced any problems with shifting of the head on impact? Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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Steve, haven't had problems with shifting. Most of my hunting points are pretty thin and secured with epoxy!  and overwrapped with sinew for looks.Only probs I've had are with obsidian points breaking on impact with bone and Tallahatta Quartzite doing the same. My go to heads are all raw(uncooked) Texas cherts, very strong and razor sharp. Those stone points are amazingly sharp, and my experiences on prolly twenty steel and stone hog kills is that the stone will out penetrate the steel most of the time!! troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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Very neat! Beautiful work. They seem to work well. | |||
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Bug Guy, they prolly weigh from 110 to 160 grains, depending on size and stone type. my second stone point kill, made with a self made osage bow several years ago. 362 pounds, it went maybe 70 yards and down, shot thru the heart.  troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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I am truly impressed!!!!--------WOW! OMG!-- my bow is "pull-push feed" - how dreadfully embarrasing!!!!! | |||
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When the oil runs out I want to be next to this guy!!!  | |||
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It looks like you're making your own arrows, feathers, shaft, broadhead and all. I'll bet taking that buck with equipment you made yourself was pretty satisfying. | |||
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ncboman has posted a pic of a mounted collection of flint points etc; on the spear forum, good colour shot too. | |||
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TRoy Most impressive. That has to be seen to be believed. I saw this kind of BH at 3rivers but I believed it was designed for the show or for minor games. That's really opting for the hard way of hunting, really challenging.  I envy You and as I love challenge, I am considering having a try at this great BH. Never used wooden shaft, that could be opportunity to begin with. Congratulations, I raise my hat J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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That is badass. I love it, and thanks for sharing! ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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DTala, that is so cool. Heavy projectile with a sharp but 'rough' edge combines to make great penetration and awesome wound channel. I use Easton 2419's & Simmons heads; 190 blade plus 12 gr bleeder - 202 grains. Sharpen from back to front with file until edge feels 'grabby'. NOT razor sharp. Weight of arrow gives complete penetration on big hogs and leaves a nasty looking hole - quick death. Your hunting equipment and skill are truly top shelf. | |||
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Troy, nice work on your arrows, etc. Have you ever been to our knap-in at Old Stone Fort in Manchester, TN? A lot of high quality flint and chert available there, plus some master's making all kinds of tools. We have this event twice a year: early May and usually in August, when it's real hot...lol. I used to flint knap a lot but haven't touched anything in 4 years. I really miss the hobby. I can't remember the guy from Alabama that specialized in Tallahatta Quartz, but he had tons of it. We get a lot of Fort Payne, Dover and Buffalo River around here, but I used to work a lot of heat treated coastal plains. Congrats on your skills. David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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David, was the guy called Tallahatta Eddie, Eddie Harrison, from south Alabama???? If so, he's a good friend of mine who unfortunately is fighting against cancer right now. Not doing so well either. He came up to my place last Friday and brought me some Tallahatta. Mostly I use cooked Texas cherts for hunting points, but ya gotta love that Coastal Plains, esp cooked. troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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Great pics, that's nice combining the oldest hunting tools with a bit of modern tec. Some of our boys are starting an Archery section in our club. They'll love this. No Bow hunting allowed in the UK but it's easy to get to Europe. Could some form of that arrow point be used with a compound bow? Or would you worry about the shaft breaking when you let go. My bow goes down to 45 pounds. How big and what sort of wood would you figure is needed for a point of that weight? "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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Specialist, a buddy of mine that shoots a compound(60#) wanted to shoot some stone points and aluminum arrows. I made a short(4") hardwood foreshaft to mount the point on and epoxied it into the alum shaft. Worked fine. troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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Very impressive Frederik Cocquyt I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good. | |||
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That is truly impressive. | |||
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Cheers, I'll it try that way. "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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That's real hunting! Very Impressive. | |||
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I just found out yesterday that one of my points killed a black bear in Canada last week. I made a few for a friend of a friend to use on his hunt. Way cool. The bear was shot at six yards and the arrow ended up stuck in the ground past the bear...nice penetration! troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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What a Impressive skill. It must be so rewarding to make a kill with equipment that you have made. well done! That is a challenging way of hunting. Maybe one day I will give it a try myself. | |||
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WOW! That's cool!! Could you please give any links as to where to find information and supplies for someone interested in this kind of stuff. I have been searching online and haven't been able to find much. This interests me a lot and I would be most appreciative of any information or guidance you could provide. | |||
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Very, very neat stuff! Wish I had the skills to do the same. Oh, well. At least I can work a trigger... ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
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Bloodnativ, try paleoplanet.com, flintknapping.com. The best, by far, way to learn is to sit down with an experienced knapper to learn. Then go break a coupla truckloads of rock. Go back for a second lesson...and listen this time to everything troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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This is seriously hard, I now have a nice pile of stone chips and a lot more respect for ancient archers. It's good fun trying and I will persevere with learning. But I may just try power tools as well. Some of our gun club boys are starting an Archery section with Long bows as well, so they will love this. "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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Beautiful work!Some very nice critters too. | |||
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Way cool, T. When did our state do away with the requirement that broadheads be made of steel? NO COMPROMISE !!! "YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT! EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONE!" | |||
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I killed a javelina back in April with a flint tipped wooden arrow, shot from a 40 pound pull Herter's FiberGlas Recurve Bow. I am interested in buying or trading for either a half dozen flint points or finished arrows, as I am thinking about try to shoot a doe this Fall with one. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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wingnut, Al requires a 7/8 inch width and 100gr weight, no mention of material, stone or metal. Been that way for a number of years. troy Birmingham, Al | |||
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I knew the reg. had changed, just wondered as to when. Not really important, just curious. Wish you were closer, so I could learn from you. NO COMPROMISE !!! "YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT! EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONE!" | |||
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That is very neat! I've never shot stone heads, but this looks very interesting and has to be immensely satisfying to take an animal wiht an arrow completely built by yourself, especially with a bow you also built. Well done, sir! | |||
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very entertaining thread. for you guys interested in learning flintknapping, there are a good many videos on utube. It's the fastest way to learn if you don't have a flintknapper friend. DTala, did you use a fletching jig on those arrows? | |||
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If anyone out there is knapping heads abnd has a few they would not mind selling or trading I sure would like to get a hold of a few. You can pm me with what you have, I just want a half dozen, maybe a dozen at most. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Most impressive......not many are capable of that. | |||
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Troy, sorry, I forgot about this thread. No, I don't believe his name was Eddie, I'll try to find out. I had a call on Saturday from OR. A friend of mine has found a deposit of agate. The multi-colored variety that takes heat and makes eye popping points. I'm hoping the lapidary guys don't get to it, cause I may be getting the entire load. I have some Buffalo River, Agatized Coral and assorted Jasper but my favorite is agate from the NW USA. Good hunting, David One of my early Dovetails. Was beginning to get close but still needed work. Coastal Plains chert that was heat treated. 5.75 inches.  Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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