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stone cold killers....
stone cold killers....
All this talk about broadheads makes me want to show you my real favorite broadhead for deer/hogs....stone!
I started flintknapping five years ago to learn how to make stone hunting points.
recent hog kill, Tallahatta Quartzite stone point. Hog ran maybe 70 yards and down,
even managed a gobbler this spring....four yard neck shot.
11 point buck from 07 season...
troy
Birmingham, Al
20 May 2009, 19:08
SGraves155Troy,
Very Impressive!
It seems to me that a smaller stone head could be more easily secured to the shaft? Have you experienced any problems with shifting of the head on impact?
Steve, haven't had problems with shifting. Most of my hunting points are pretty thin and secured with epoxy!
and overwrapped with sinew for looks.
Only probs I've had are with obsidian points breaking on impact with bone and Tallahatta Quartzite doing the same. My go to heads are all raw(uncooked) Texas cherts, very strong and razor sharp.
Those stone points are amazingly sharp, and my experiences on prolly twenty steel and stone hog kills is that the stone will out penetrate the steel most of the time!!
troy
Birmingham, Al
21 May 2009, 02:02
TheBigGuyWhat do those heads weigh?
Very neat! Beautiful work. They seem to work well.
Bug Guy, they prolly weigh from 110 to 160 grains, depending on size and stone type.
my second stone point kill, made with a self made osage bow several years ago. 362 pounds, it went maybe 70 yards and down, shot thru the heart.
troy
Birmingham, Al
21 May 2009, 08:11
WoodmnctryI am truly impressed!!!!--------WOW!
OMG!-- my bow is "pull-push feed" - how dreadfully embarrasing!!!!!
21 May 2009, 14:40
Steve LathamWhen the oil runs out I want to be next to this guy!!!
21 May 2009, 19:40
daniel77It looks like you're making your own arrows, feathers, shaft, broadhead and all. I'll bet taking that buck with equipment you made yourself was pretty satisfying.
21 May 2009, 20:22
Steve Lathamncboman has posted a pic of a mounted collection of flint points etc; on the spear forum, good colour shot too.
21 May 2009, 20:28
jbderunzTRoy
Most impressive. That has to be seen to be believed.
I saw this kind of BH at 3rivers but I believed it was designed for the show or for minor games.
That's really opting for the hard way of hunting, really challenging.
I envy You and as I love challenge, I am considering having a try at this great BH.
Never used wooden shaft, that could be opportunity to begin with.
Congratulations, I raise my hat
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22 May 2009, 00:11
blackbearhunterAwsome
23 May 2009, 00:34
Kamo GariThat is badass. I love it, and thanks for sharing!
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23 May 2009, 20:29
SIR MAUSERDTala, that is so cool. Heavy projectile with a sharp but 'rough' edge combines to make great penetration and awesome wound channel. I use Easton 2419's & Simmons heads; 190 blade plus 12 gr bleeder - 202 grains. Sharpen from back to front with file until edge feels 'grabby'. NOT razor sharp. Weight of arrow gives complete penetration on big hogs and leaves a nasty looking hole - quick death. Your hunting equipment and skill are truly top shelf.
26 May 2009, 08:05
L. David KeithTroy, nice work on your arrows, etc. Have you ever been to our knap-in at Old Stone Fort in Manchester, TN? A lot of high quality flint and chert available there, plus some master's making all kinds of tools. We have this event twice a year: early May and usually in August, when it's real hot...lol. I used to flint knap a lot but haven't touched anything in 4 years. I really miss the hobby. I can't remember the guy from Alabama that specialized in Tallahatta Quartz, but he had tons of it. We get a lot of Fort Payne, Dover and Buffalo River around here, but I used to work a lot of heat treated coastal plains. Congrats on your skills.
David
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David, was the guy called Tallahatta Eddie, Eddie Harrison, from south Alabama????
If so, he's a good friend of mine who unfortunately is fighting against cancer right now. Not doing so well either. He came up to my place last Friday and brought me some Tallahatta.
Mostly I use cooked Texas cherts for hunting points, but ya gotta love that Coastal Plains, esp cooked.
troy
Birmingham, Al
04 June 2009, 04:28
The SpecialistGreat pics, that's nice combining the oldest hunting tools with a bit of modern tec. Some of our boys are starting an Archery section in our club. They'll love this.
No Bow hunting allowed in the UK but it's easy to get to Europe.
Could some form of that arrow point be used with a compound bow? Or would you worry about the shaft breaking when you let go.
My bow goes down to 45 pounds. How big and what sort of wood would you figure is needed for a point of that weight?
"When doing battle, seek a quick victory."
Specialist, a buddy of mine that shoots a compound(60#) wanted to shoot some stone points and aluminum arrows. I made a short(4") hardwood foreshaft to mount the point on and epoxied it into the alum shaft. Worked fine.
troy
Birmingham, Al
04 June 2009, 10:48
Safari-HuntVery impressive
Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
05 June 2009, 14:26
shanksponyThat is truly impressive.
05 June 2009, 19:04
The Specialistquote:
Specialist, a buddy of mine that shoots a compound(60#) wanted to shoot some stone points and aluminum arrows. I made a short(4") hardwood foreshaft to mount the point on and epoxied it into the alum shaft. Worked fine.
Cheers, I'll it try that way.
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05 June 2009, 19:15
CaracalThat's real hunting! Very Impressive.
I just found out yesterday that one of my points killed a black bear in Canada last week. I made a few for a friend of a friend to use on his hunt. Way cool.
The bear was shot at six yards and the arrow ended up stuck in the ground past the bear...nice penetration!
troy
Birmingham, Al
09 June 2009, 17:01
Trigger SteveWhat a Impressive skill. It must be so rewarding to make a kill with equipment that you have made. well done! That is a challenging way of hunting.
Maybe one day I will give it a try myself.
12 June 2009, 23:04
BloodnativWOW! That's cool!! Could you please give any links as to where to find information and supplies for someone interested in this kind of stuff. I have been searching online and haven't been able to find much. This interests me a lot and I would be most appreciative of any information or guidance you could provide.
14 June 2009, 23:09
AkshooterBloodnativ
Try this one.
http://www.3riversarchery.com/
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14 June 2009, 23:58
Kamo GariVery, very neat stuff! Wish I had the skills to do the same. Oh, well. At least I can work a trigger...
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troy
Birmingham, Al
18 July 2009, 16:50
The SpecialistThis is seriously hard, I now have a nice pile of stone chips and a lot more respect for ancient archers.
It's good fun trying and I will persevere with learning. But I may just try power tools as well.
Some of our gun club boys are starting an Archery section with Long bows as well, so they will love this.
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18 July 2009, 18:43
Bernie P.Beautiful work!Some
very nice critters too.
20 July 2009, 22:26
wingnutWay cool, T.
When did our state do away with the requirement that broadheads be made of steel?
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23 July 2009, 07:28
CrazyhorseconsultingI killed a javelina back in April with a flint tipped wooden arrow, shot from a 40 pound pull Herter's FiberGlas Recurve Bow.
I am interested in buying or trading for either a half dozen flint points or finished arrows, as I am thinking about try to shoot a doe this Fall with one.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
wingnut, Al requires a 7/8 inch width and 100gr weight, no mention of material, stone or metal. Been that way for a number of years.
troy
Birmingham, Al
26 July 2009, 04:42
wingnutI knew the reg. had changed, just wondered as to when. Not really important, just curious.
Wish you were closer, so I could learn from you.
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That is very neat! I've never shot stone heads, but this looks very interesting and has to be immensely satisfying to take an animal wiht an arrow completely built by yourself, especially with a bow you also built.
Well done, sir!
10 August 2009, 09:02
ncbomanvery entertaining thread.
for you guys interested in learning flintknapping, there are a good many videos on utube. It's the fastest way to learn if you don't have a flintknapper friend.
DTala, did you use a fletching jig on those arrows?
10 August 2009, 18:57
CrazyhorseconsultingIf anyone out there is knapping heads abnd has a few they would not mind selling or trading I sure would like to get a hold of a few.
You can pm me with what you have, I just want a half dozen, maybe a dozen at most.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
11 August 2009, 08:16
NortonMost impressive......not many are capable of that.
18 August 2009, 11:41
L. David KeithTroy, sorry, I forgot about this thread. No, I don't believe his name was Eddie, I'll try to find out. I had a call on Saturday from OR. A friend of mine has found a deposit of agate. The multi-colored variety that takes heat and makes eye popping points. I'm hoping the lapidary guys don't get to it, cause I may be getting the entire load. I have some Buffalo River, Agatized Coral and assorted Jasper but my favorite is agate from the NW USA.
Good hunting,
David
One of my early Dovetails. Was beginning to get close but still needed work. Coastal Plains chert that was heat treated. 5.75 inches.
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Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#926103994110 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson
Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......
"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
