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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
That's odd. They appear normal on my screens.

I'm thinking it's an administrator question, and suspect your computer, or monitor.


Sorry about that. If I knew how to fix it, I would.

KB

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Originally posted by JBrown:

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
That's odd. They appear normal on my screens.

I'm thinking it's an administrator question, and suspect your computer, or monitor.


Sorry about that. If I knew how to fix it, I would.

KB

KB the problem, I believe, is you signature line. You need to take about 20% of those "~-~-~-~-~-~-~" off.

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Originally posted by BECoole:
You should have sent that LW barrel to Anna Kinney in Georgia. She does a great job finishing them!

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
My rifle/wildcat may be a good test base for the "tight" theory. Unfortunately, I'll have no factory std to compare it to - velocity. With SAAMI std being .315" on the lands, and apparantly CIP or at least LW std being .311 on the lands, I would class this 8mm LW barrel as "tight" - not ten-thousandths, but .002".

http://www.lothar-walther.com/376.php scroll all the way to the bottom. This is a new LW50 blank #1400, that I bought direct from LW/Woody about three years ago. The reamer is from PTG, in 323 Hollis, which is the 308 Norma necked up to 8mm, no other change. The dies are from Redding, made with reference to the reamer drawing provided by PTG. I'll be using new Norma brass.

Here's another interesting link: http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/...ces-c1246-wp3390.htm Scroll down, see that Krieger offers two "bores" in 8mm - one .311 & another .315. The initial pilot provided by PTG on my reamer was .315, but had to be changed to .311 to fit into the barrel. Also notice the interesting info at the top of the link/page in blue.

Unfortunately, if my LW barrel doesn't shoot accurately, we'll never get to the bottom of that hole. But, if it's accurate, then that's one indication that "tight" lands makes no difference in accuracy, as long as the groove is right. (bullet diameter same as groove) This seems to be confirmed by the Krieger info.

I'll cronograph it of course, but unless it's way off velocity expectations, then it won't mean much, except just info.

KB

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
That .311 bore happens to be a "standard" for the 8mm. It's a specification on the original data for many 8mm cartridges. LW also can make the "American Norm" .323 groove with .315 bore, you just didn't ask for it. On there website for the 8mm barrel you ordered it was clearly defined what the bore and groove was, why didn't you ask questions when you ordered it?

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
That .311 bore happens to be a "standard" for the 8mm. It's a specification on the original data for many 8mm cartridges. LW also can make the "American Norm" .323 groove with .315 bore, you just didn't ask for it. On there website for the 8mm barrel you ordered it was clearly defined what the bore and groove was, why didn't you ask questions when you ordered it?

I did ask questions. I did see it was clearly defined in the web site. I don't have a problem with it being .311 bore, and never said I did. At this stage, how the heck would I know one way or another whether it's a problem. I can only assume that LW and Krieger know what they are doing. I'm just giving info and facts for those who may be interested in details, have a problem, or think they have a problem.

BTW, the latest status is waiting on "QC" of the barrel and reamer. Assuming they are OK, then apparantly we have decided to send the action and the stock to LW, so complete assembly is in the control of LW, thus removing the variable of another gunsmith. He doesn't want any thing more to do with it anyway, as long as the LW barrel is involved. He trued and lapped the action, so it's ready to accept the barrel with no other work. The stock is a factory take-off, so all it needs is a little inletting for the new contour and bedding.

Woody insists on test firing the rifle, and making adjustments based on the results. That presents a problem since this is a wildcat. So, I have talked with one custom ammo maker, and may talk with others down south. The guy I talked with over the phone sounded very competent, and the prices aren't bad. That solves the ammo problem, and the shipping of ammo problem, and removes another variable. At least Woody won't be shooting my handloads.

Did Woody tell you about the other dimension that Americans are more use to and did you have a choice?

KB

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
Did Woody tell you about the other dimension that Americans are more use to and did you have a choice?

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
Did Woody tell you about the other dimension that Americans are more use to and did you have a choice?

I can't remember if Woody mentioned it initally or not, but somewhere along the line he informed me. I doubt that knowing the barrel was .311 or .315 bore at the time of purchase would have made a difference in the decision to buy. I have figured all along that LW knows what they are doing with barrel making, so why should I worry about it?

Certainly I had a choice. I could have bought any one of the various makes, such as Kreiger, PacNor, Douglas, etc. In fact I have a new Douglas 8mm #4 SS blank on the shelf right now, and two #3 SS Shilens, threaded and prechambered in 8x57. I also have a 8x57 LW CM barrel threaded and prechambered. I know the Douglas is .315 bore, and suspect the Shilens are too. I also suspect the LW CM barrel is .311, but I don't know for sure since it doesn't matter. I'm sure it will shoot well, so what do I care if it's .311 or .315? I'm also sure the Douglas and Shilen barrels will shoot well. If it's a problem, it will become apparant one of these days, and I'll worry about it then.

I forget just how many barrel blanks I have. They come and go. I have plans for them all. Maybe some day I'll get around to using them all.

I chose to use a LW50 #1400 blank for this project, and had no basis for concern that I was making the wrong choice. My gunsmith obviously thinks differently, now that he tried threading and chambering it. I'm still neutral about what to think about it, but I ain't going to argue with my gunsmith about it. That would just aggrivate him some more.

What do I know for sure? My gunsmith says he can't do the work on this barrel, because he isn't set up for it, and his tools aren't right for it. Woody says no problem, I'll do it. Seems to me we have a solution, not a problem.

Should I want to use a LW barrel again, next time I'll just be sure that my gunsmith has successful experience with one, and maybe referr him to this thread, or better yet, insist that he call Woody in advance, then make a decision of whether he wants the project or not.

KB