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Yes it was fun  reeling him in, gaffing and hauling him up on the deck to be turned into “Slab” Cut (as opposed to “Quarter”) Toro for the more discriminating!Did not even have to get into the next level of interesting facts – keeping those in the hip pocket  until needed as they say. Where is my WASABI!!!!!  | |||
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From the Wikipedia entry "Rodney King" [citations omitted] - warning - it's not pretty (kinda like this thread): King was awarded $3.8 million in a civil case and used some of the proceeds to start a hip hop music label, Straight Alta-Pazz Recording Company. On 29 November 2007, while going home King claimed to have been shot in the face, arms, back and torso with birdshot by two thieves attempting to steal his bicycle. Police were unable to find any suspects or witnesses and his injuries were described as not life-threatening. Like his father, King is an alcoholic. In 1993, he entered an alcohol rehabilitation program and was placed on probation after crashing his vehicle into a block wall in downtown Los Angeles. In July 1995, he was arrested by Alhambra police, who alleged that he hit his wife with his car, knocking her to the ground. He was sentenced to 90 days in jail after being convicted of hit and run. On August 27, 2003, King was arrested again for speeding and running a red light while under the influence of alcohol. He failed to yield to police officers and slammed his SUV into a house, breaking his pelvis. In May 2008 King checked into the Pasadena Recovery Center in Pasadena, California, which was filmed as part of the second season of Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew, which premiered in October 2008. Dr. Drew Pinsky, who runs the facility, showed concern for King's lifestyle and said that King would die unless his addiction was treated. He also appeared on Sober House, a Celebrity Rehab spin-off focusing on a sober living environment, which aired in early 2009. Both shows filmed King's quest to not only achieve sobriety, but to reestablish a relationship with his family, which had been severely damaged due to his drinking. During his time on Celebrity Rehab and Sober House, King worked not only on his addiction, but on the lingering trauma of the beating. He and Dr. Pinsky retraced his path from the night of his beating, eventually reaching the spot where it happened, the site of the Children's Museum of Los Angeles. King was asked to recount some of the details of the event. He recalled that the officers shouted to him from their car during the chase that they intended to beat and kill him as soon as he stopped; that when he did stop, he immediately lay on the ground and surrendered, begging the approaching officers "You don’t have to do this!" as he lay there motionless; that the shots with the Taser were all while he was already prone and compliant; and that the officers repeatedly taunted him during the beating, such as saying they were going to kill him and he should run away. King won a celebrity boxing match against ex-Chester City (Delaware County, Pennsylvania) police officer Simon Aouad on Friday, September 11, 2009 at the Ramada Philadelphia Airport in Essington, Pennsylvania. In 2009, King and other alumni of Celebrity Rehab appeared as panel speakers to a new group of addicts at the Pasadena Recovery Center, marking 11 months of sobriety for him. His appearance was aired in the third season episode "Triggers". Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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back to the stock layout. While a q-sawn stock may be the optimum, I have used several slab, & rift sawn with good success. However, the layout of grain is NEVER to be ignored. It should run through the grip, not across it like in the RW&Blue broken stock pictured before. The color usually does not run parallel with the grain on rift or flat sawn. Look at the pores on the repaired stock that SDH posted. They run every direction. There's no way to tell without much closer detailed pics what direction the grain is running through the grip on KB's stock. My best guess is it goes from near the heel to the back of the trigger guard inlet. This goes across the grip, not through it. It should go from the toe to the receiver ring. Still can't tell without better pics. | |||
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It is rather difficult to see excactly from this picture, as you only sees it from 1 side. But to me it looks like this stock is commonly broken, from the picture it looks as if the breakline basically goes in a horizontal plane. If SDH theory should be of any value, this slabsawn stock should have split in a vertical plane. Then the fractureline mostly should have been visible from the top and the bottom. Basicaly a stockdesign is pretty square in all the part that is fragile, and therefor it doesnt matter mutch if it is flat, quater or rift sawn, as long as the basic grovthline is parralel to the shape. The butstock is the only part that realy is effected (in theory) by the cut type. As it is basically rektangulare. In practice it is of rittle relevance, as it is from a strength perspective way overdimentioned. Basically all cut types will warp if not treated properly. The quatersawn will warp up and down. The slabsawn would warp from side to side. The riftsawn would warp in apx 45 deg. To SDH i can only recomend " Make a lot more of your beautifull stocks, and write a little less about it in the meantime. Then you might gather so mutch more expierence, that you becomes a little less salvaged  )To DArcy, It is not fair to have that mutch real life expierence, and use it in a debate. It could be compared to doping  BTW you make damed fine riflesTo the guy from LUXUS. Sometime you just bump into people (as the one that cut the blank up for knives) who actualy must have a extreme hard life, as everything is problems, and no solutions is to be found, unless served on a silverplatter. I actualy think that my first week trainee would have found the obvious solution to simply lift the pattern in that pice of nice wood, so he would have avoided the center radial crack, witch is so common in 90 % of all logs. Please never tell this to an artistic custom stockmaker, as he then would have no source left for usable wood. To all of you guys. Try to show a little more respect to each other. As many of you actualy are verry competent (some perhaps with a little large ego ) | |||
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On we go, despite the sad example of Rodney King. 
Why do you say that? Your last statement does not make any sense to me. It seems to me that the pictured stock broke just as SDH said that Kabluewy's might break, owing to the horizontally oriented grain run out through the wrist. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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The cracked stock SDH presented looks to be crossgrained thru the wrist making it totally irrelevant to the discussion. apples and oranges. the stock kb showed is almost perfectly flat sawn. the lines that some speak of as it "running out of the wrist" is completely wrong. it is like topo lines on a map. the grip is reducing in radius much like a hill on a topo map. thereby showing the lines. for gods sake, look at the photos people. I love my Avatar Too Fellas. | |||
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I've looked at the pictures. The grain runs out in the grip area on KB's stock just like the one SDH posted. The picture belongs here more so than all the antique stuff pictured because it's a perfect example of will happen to a stock built with a bad piece of wood. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Not true. The place most fragile and likely to break area is not the grip itself, but from the grip through the rear guard screw and the bolt handle notch. Think about how thin and trapezoidal the stock is on each side of the rear guard screw. Pretty common for the stock to break across the grain at the bolt handle notch, then from the rear guard screw out through the grip. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Since you are a "Master Gunmaker" oh btw might post a picture of the book you are hawking on this thread---you shamelessly put it on all of the others LOL(notice you took it down why)?  .Sorry I digress, have a proposition---You and not someone else with your OWN Equipment and your OWN Hands (you will be on your honor) build a rifle and then I will get one of my Smiths to do the same using the same requirements and we will see which one shoots better.. How about that for an offer and the person that can shoot the best score with IBS targets or NBRSA at 100yds or 1K or both for that matter gets to keep the others rifle. You name the weight limits and the caliber. You can bring whatever type of portable bench and rest you want to shoot off of. What could be fairer than that? We will shoot at the Whittington Center (we both know people who can witness this) and then we will post pictures of the targets for all to see. Please build my new rifle from a “good blank” because I am very picky and would prefer a Krieger barrel .Time to put up and---talk is cheap but money buys Whiskey! | |||
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You are probably right but he does not have the capability to do this so he will not take me up on it but I wish he would. If he built it on his own I would probably keep the stock, pitch the tube and keep the action as a doner for another project. | |||
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SDH is a stock maker, not a gunmaker. And did you really not know that he is a member of the ACGG guild?
"Clown" about covers it. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Jason----yes he is at the same show I am at in January. Yes he is listed with an "S" by his name on the website. He is frequently referred to as a "Gunmaker" which is false I know that but he seems to like that title kind of like a guy wearing a fake Rolex. Did take a while for someone to ask about the "Guild" comment and what that was about. Am waiting until some of the other things come to light but I am not going to bring them up on a public forum. He or someone else can. | |||
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It seems that you have left out one of the if not the the most dimensionally stable wood out there. Is there a reason for that or are you just not familiar with it? BTW I love the rants but you look like a pretty calm and nice individual contrary to what I have been told.[URL=  ][IMG]QUOTE] | |||
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You also tells that many roots has been doug up. Where do you have this tale from. Most walnut trees i'we seen, looses every bit of coluor in the root, and mostly reacts as the poorest sapwood. (it actually also has the same purpose: transport of water and nutrition for the growth of the tree) About your reaction: You obvious is not used to be chalanged on your somtime rather oneeyed statements. Insetad of feeling threadent by people with other and sometime way larger expierence, try to argue, instead of react as a cornered person. People who you actually insult werry directly, actually accept your artistic skills, even questioning your wolumebase for gathering expierince. No matter how manny years you do 3-10 marsterpices, you would never reach the same base for gathering woodknowledge as persons producing and seeing thousands of stock every year. Maybe your largest chalange is the shift from Monolog to Dialog. (writing books and displaying = Monolog Internet discussion often = Dialog. But sadly it oftens turn into Shouting. I belive that the human anatomy has a tendence to close manny ears, when opening a mouth) | |||
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Boss I am not sticking up for SDH, but don't you think you are getting just a bit neurotic here. Three posts in a row! You aren't going to change SDH and he isn't going to change you. Moreover, neither of you controls or causes the other's emotions. Instead, you each have control of your own reaction to the other person's words. So, instead of acting neurotic, why not choose to let this go, because it isn't doing a damn thing for either one of you except to make you both look like fools. | |||
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Yeah, quite a while. All of an hour and 44 minutes....
Hey Mr. Clown, do you wear big red shoes when you ride that v8 bike? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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This whole discussion is as clear as mud. Rule #1: Don't use too much jargon. If someone could clear this up I'd surely appreciate it. Pictures would be needed. 1) What is cross grain? 2) How can you tell which direction the grain is flowing in a slab sawn blank? 3) What is grain run out? 4) The picture of the stock broken though the wrist shows me nothing. There is nothing I see in the pic the explains why it seems to have broken? 5) The stock broken through the wrist looks nothing like the intitial stock in question. 6) After we figure out what the heck grain run out means what is the problem with this condition? 7) Some bats break in the handle and some shatter, I have no idea what point this proves or disproves. 8) Laminate stocks are the strongest and are aligned like slab sawn but slab sawn wood isn't the strongest cut? 9) Flat sawn is the same as slab sawn? | |||
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I believe we have 3 world class gun builders who post on this forum. All three of them make their living solely from their gun work and have done so for a long time. All three are pretty successful and have been able to do things like hunt in Africa. All three have something else in common: they have gotten into big dirty pissing matches here on AR. Does that make them fools? Trust me, no "fool" has ever made it for decades as a world renown gunbuilder. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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OK Jason, I get it that you don't agree with the choice of the word "fools". If that isn't the best choice of word, then substitute your own word to describe how it looks. I'm quite surprised at the intensity and nastiness of some of the "pissing", especially from "world class gun builders", as you say. It has a character and tone to it that causes me a loss of words to describe, probably because part of the puzzel is missing for those of us who are not "insiders" in the business. About the best way to describe it that I can think of is: If dueling was legal as a spectator sport, then that may have some redeming quality, otherwise the pissing match is merely disgusting to observers. It's not anywhere as much fun to watch as cage fighting or a good boxing match. No matter how you look at it, some of the stuff in here looks like world class egos at work too, with low class communication and courtesy skills. I get the impression that there is a lot of bad history between some of these guys, that is rolled forward, rather than forgiven and forgotten. Also, I'm more surprised by the big names in the business that posted in this discussion. That's cool. I'm just beginning to understand and appreciate who these folks really are, who participate here in AR. It's rather impressive. I did notice some posts were very on-point and reasonable and curtious and had class, and those are the posts I have been reading. From those posts, basically there has been enough info to learn a lot. The others I've mostly ignored. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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My part in this matter has concluded---SDH made some decisions that were poorly thought out shall we say and the thread as it existed a few hours ago has been preserved. Just remember Mr. Steven Dodd Hughes posted what he did and no one else. Any violation of the intellectual property rights owned by Luxus were made exclusively by Mr. Hughes – you see this as with any type of negotiation the first person who gets emotional almost always loses because they make bad decisions. Unfortunately for Mr. Hughes he has made some big ones and is contemplating the extent of the ramifications associated with his writings when this matter is fully vetted. Due to recent developments the following must be made clear: I have no financial connection to Luxus, its officers, employees, agents, suppliers, or subcontractors at any tier. My relationship is one of Buyer and Luxus as Seller who conduct arms length transactions in the normal course of doing business with respect to the goods and services Luxus offers for sale to the general public. This will be my last post on the subject----SDH you of all people should be aware of what constitutes Libel especially when it involves the utilization of the Intellectual Property of the entity you are in fact Libeling. SDH knows his alligator mouth overloaded his hummingbird rear and edited it out of the post. | |||
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Kabluewy, In you post dated the 13th you mentioned sawing the blank down the middle and laminating a straight grained piece in the middle. Have you done this? If so how did it work out? I have only seen pictures of this technique on another site. It looks like it makes questionable wood into some fine looking stocks for benchrest and long range varminting. DW | |||
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dwheels, Actually that post had more than one purpose. In part I was joking, in part I was serious, in part it was for shock effect, and in part I was hopeing someone with real knowledge would bite.  There is at least one major stock maker who actually does that sort of laminate, and charges a lot of money for his product. The pictures of those I've seen look darn good. Not knowing any better, it looks and seems like a good idea to me, especially in dealing with a highly figured and cross grain piece. I don't see it being especially useful say on a great piece properly quarter sawn with good layout. But that's just intuition on my part. In reality though, for the stock that was the basis for this post, I don't know whether I'll use it or not. In part it depends on what my gunsmith says. In part it depends on what I think of it when I can take a close look at it. I'll probably post some better pictures of it here. I just don't know right now. I may use it as a pattern, depending on how it feels, then sell it. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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My friend is a pretty darn good gunsmith and stockmaker. He makes target rifles that compete with and at times beat the big names in benchrest. He does a lot of rimfire nowadays, but his centerfires are just as capable. He makes a lot of laminants(sp) for two reasons mainly, the first is when making ultra-lightweight stocks for guns in classes with weight restrictions. He will typically uses butternut on the sides with walnut or hard maple down the center for strength/rigidity. The second reason he laminates is in the case of a stock blank not being thick enough to make a specific pattern, i.e. beavertail style forend or cheek piece. He laminates the wood himself. This is not the typical 1/16" laminants thast you buy as blanks, but generally three piece glue togethers with 1/2"-3/4" glue ons to the sides of small blanks or down the center of the lightweight specie blanks. PA Bear Hunter, NRA Benefactor | |||
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SDH, I have two of your books and I enjoy reading your articals. You ARE a master stock maker..no one can take that away from you...like you or not. Luxus, You have the most beautiful blanks I have ever seen, along with a great reputation. An idea...Maybe Steven could restock one of my guns with a Luxus blank (all for free of course!) in the interest of peace?? Let me know...hey I'm just trying to make peace here!! | |||
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SDH you have got to be the biggest pion-ego maniac i have ever seen. you self destruction here has gone from comedy to an out right train wreck. you do not know when to stop. have you no idea how damaging you are to your own self? no one "reined me in" i have not even spoke to or emailed or pm'd afreeman. if he did in fact do what you claim......good for him. you have attacked his business and his character. you really should be put in check. you are what is wrong with this industry and humanity. you. read his post above on page three or where ever it was. that is in case you do not recognize it.............CLASS. there you go, if someone points it out to you maybe you can learn from it. you are like a dog that plays in his own shit. go AWAY. crawl back into you little head in your lonely little cabin in Livingston where you no doubt liken yourself to Hemingway.......ha! i am semi retired at 53 years old, i am in the best shape of my life. i am an ex marine who has seen shit your small mind could not deal with. i will see you around stevey I love my Avatar Too Fellas. | |||
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I am sorry that I have to do this because I said this would be my last post on this thread. If SDH will agree to it I will gladly post the PM I sent along with his Unbelievable response. Well Steve—how about it we can just put it out there and let everyone be the judge? When someone outright lies about something and to make matters worse I have the exchange saved. Steve you have until noon central time today to either retract your comment specifically as it relates to me or I will post the PM. I normally do not post a PM but this will be an exception and as you know all too well a lot of people are watching what you have been posting. Now how about my book???? Even if you are unsavory I still would like a copy autographed please.. | |||
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SDh i just noticed that you are a charlatan too. a full on hypocrite............you have gone back and modified some of your previous posts. some one must have "reined you in". huh? I love my Avatar Too Fellas. | |||
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SDH, Thanks for the very useful posting on stockwoods. Jerry Liles | |||
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Do not ever post PM’s but in this case it seems that this will show the extent that this poor man has melted down. He has been revising the posts he made but still insists on moving forward continuing the hypocrisy he represents. Unfortunately this will be something that all of his industry peers/publishers and customers will see and can then make their own judgments as to SDH’s cognitive abilities. Most already have an opinion of him and that is readily transparent in other areas of this thread. Steve it is never a good idea to put something in writing and them make a contradictory statement in writing that can be Easily Verified. Again for the record I am not being directed in any way shape form or fashion by any entity associated with Luxus Walnut. Steven---sit down and think what you are doing to yourself!!  THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM FORUMS PMs are kept on our server for 12 months. Accuratereloading.com The Accurate Reloading Forums Personal Zone Private Messaging Gunstock Thread Go Tools Reply Personal Zone » Member Directory THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS » The Accurate Reloading Chat Rooms » Profile Buddies Ignore List Groups Permissions Private Messaging Notifications Karma Preferences Favorites More... Printer Friendly Format Close Delete Exit Topic Help Welcome, Boss Hoss [Logout] Host: Boss Hoss 1 participant Boss Hoss Posted 15 April 2010 09:00 Steven---would suggest just letting this one go at this point for the good of everyone concerned. As I said earlier I have no agenda with this and was just having fun watching you display your emotions and have a meltdown because you treated Adam Freeman disrespectfully. Never thought you would post some of the things you did and possibly put yourself in harm’s way. Did not think what I was told about you was completely accurate about your personality however, in retrospect it was. I will not be making any further posts on that particular thread as it will serve no purpose to the actions going forward. Regards, David Registered: 08 November 2005 SDH Posted 15 April 2010 09:44 Hide Post Fuckj yo nmuthatfucikign idiot. dont' ever show your face to me as it will be reafrraainged yo9u are the wrst kigd of asshole and i have no intension of quitting theis messy shit you started im sure adam put the sprs to you because he couldn[t chickne shit me you fucking asshole read on i'm going to tell em all about stock wood Location: Livingston, MT | Registered: 07 February 2005 Ignored post by SDH posted 15 April 2010 09:44 Show Post Boss Hoss Posted 15 April 2010 09:56 Hide Post quote: Originally posted by SDH: Fuckj yo nmuthatfucikign idiot. dont' ever show your face to me as it will be reafrraainged yo9u are the wrst kigd of asshole and i have no intension of quitting theis messy shit you started im sure adam put the sprs to you because he couldn[t chickne shit me you fucking asshole read on i'm going to tell em all about stock wood Does this mean that I am not going to get an autographed book??? Seriously I would still like to read it. Look this was all in good fun and you have no sense of humor. Ok but at least start a new thread. Registered: 08 November 2005 Ignored post by Boss Hoss posted 15 April 2010 09:56 Show Post Powered by Social Strata Please Wait. Your request is being processed... Logout: The Accurate Reloading Forums Update LiveCloud Account Reply Accuratereloading.com The Accurate Reloading Forums Personal Zone Private Messaging Gunstock Thread Contact Us | Accuratereloading.com | Terms of Service Copyright December 1997-2010 Accuratereloading.com Community Statistics Statistics for the last 30 days New Posts 31573 New Members 256 Page Views 2652664 Visits 244448 Newest Member babafats Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia View $GS_USERNAME's Public Profile Add $GS_USERNAME to my Buddies Add $GS_USERNAME to my Ignore List Invite $GS_USERNAME to a Private Topic View Recent Posts by $GS_USERNAME Notify me of New Posts by $GS_USERNAME Quick Reply to: Gunstock Thread Close | Use Full Posting Form | Quick Quote New Since your Last Visit Active Topics | |||
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They really do need a spell check on this forum...........that is pathetic!! | |||
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that mess of irrate literature was the PM from SDH to boss hoss.........! and he writes for a few mags?  I love my Avatar Too Fellas. | |||
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i am done........c ya I love my Avatar Too Fellas. | |||
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I think we've gone way off track here. So, more to the point: Woodchucks Chucking Wood: The woodchuck could chuck as much wood as he wanted! (By the way what is a woodchuck? Is it like a gopher?) The amount of wood that woodchucks would chuck on a given day varies greatly with the individual woodchuck. According to a Wall Street Journal article, New York State wildlife expert Richard Thomas found that a woodchuck could chuck around 35 cubic feet of dirt in the course of digging a burrow. Thomas reasoned that if a woodchuck could chuck wood, he would chuck an amount equal to 700 pounds. Some say it depends on three factors: • The woodchuck's desire to chuck said wood. • The woodchuck's need to chuck the aforementioned wood. • The woodchuck's ability to chuck the wood when it is a woodchuck Others say: • He would chuck, he would, as much as he could, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. • If he could chuck wood, the woodchuck would chuck as much as he could! • A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood. • A woodchuck would chuck all the wood that the woodchuck would chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood. • If a woodchuck could chuck wood, he would and should chuck wood. But if woodchucks can't chuck wood, they shouldn't and wouldn't chuck wood. Though were I a woodchuck, and I chucked wood, I would chuck wood with the best woodchucks that chucked wood. • If a woodchuck could chuck wood, then s/he'd chuck all the wood, s/he'd chuck and chuck and chuck and chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. • It would chuck the amount of wood that she sells seashells on the seashore divided by how many pickles Peter Piper picks. • One quarter of a sycamore if you give him a quarter for every quarter of the sycamore he cut. • It might depend on how many female woodchucks were present. Or, it could depend on whether the woodchuck's mother-in-law was around or not. If she was, he'd be chucking all day. If not, he'd be watching the football game. • Some maintain that woodchucks could not and would not chuck wood at all. • It depends on how good his dentures are! • A woodchuck - would chuck - as much wood - as a woodchuck - could chuck - if a woodchuck could chuck wood. But unfortunately, woodchucks do not chuck wood. • About 5.72 fluid litres of wood (answer from the paper pulp mill). • About as many boards as the Mongol hoards would hoard if the Mongol hordes did hoard boards. • Um....... 23???? • Tons. More than you can count. Honestly. No one can chuck more wood than a woodchuck. • Due to the average size of a woodchuck and the general density of wood (not including cork) if a woodchuck could chuck wood it would probably get through about 6.573 pounds per day, assuming the woodchuck is functioning correctly. • Using the formula: (W + I) * C where W = the constant of wood, which is well known to be 61, as agreed in many scientific circles. I = the variable in this equation, and stands for the word "if" from the original problem. As there are three circumstances, with 0 equaling the chance that the woodchuck cannot chuck wood, 1 being the theory that the woodchuck can chuck wood but chooses not to, and 2 standing for the probability that the woodchuck can and will chuck wood, we clearly must choose 2 for use in this equation. C = the constant of Chuck Norris, whose presence in any problem involving the word chuck must there, is well known to equal 1.1 of any known being, therefore the final part of this calculation is 1.1. As is clear, this appears to give the answer of (61 + 2) * 1.1 = (63) * 1.1 = 69.3 units of wood. • "Sixteen and 1/2 board feet a day except on groundhog's day since groundhog is another name for woodchuck."- This answer is according to no less an authority than the 'Junior Woodchucks Guidebook', a publication often consulted by Huey, Dewey, and Louie Duck and referred to yet again by them in answering this very same question. • A woodchuck would only chuck as much would as Chuck Norris would allow it to, because the woodchuck shares Chuck's name. Therefore, Chuck must punish it and make it chuck as much wood as Chuck can. So, a woodchuck would chuck as much wood as Chuck could. • None because a wood chuck cannot chuck wood! :P • Approximately 3.9675 pounds every 5.6843 seconds. So there. • 2.865 lbs every 11.3686 Seconds? • As much as he needed to be satisfied • But the true jokey answer, as told by my grandfather is: As much wood as a woodchuck could chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood. • a woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood • Are you kidding? Everybody knows a woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood. • But it definitely couldn't chuck Chuck Norris. • A group of people actually did a study on this. None of the wood chucks ate any wood planks so they never upchucked it but some of them chucked them (threw them) at people. • During my study of Woodchuck I came to the conclusion that woodchucks don't chuck wood but only drink beer. • However, this beer can frequently motivate them towards actions that can closely resemble the chucking of wood. • A woodchuck will only chuck certain wood, likely that which is found in their natural, prairie habitat. Therefore, the lack of trees on the prairie is quite closely related to the chucking of wood performed by these wood-chucking woodchucks. • Since it is the same animal as the Groundhog, should we not instead ask : how much ground would a groundhog hog if a groundhog would hog ground? That about sums it up. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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SDH's multiple personality, makes me wonder if i misunderstood something from my historylesson. Aint moonshine mostly related to Kentucky ?? Or does living on the grassland make you smooke wheed?????? | |||
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 Jeffee, these guys are pickin' on each other , make them stop! Gimme a break. | |||
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I've been in the middle of discussions here that turned into a mess before, as a participant to the mess, and frankly it wasn't satisfying. So, now it's clear to me that it's not something to easily jump into, especially thinking about "winning", or being "right". That's the silly fallacy, which those looking from outside can see clearly. You are correct, I didn't think it would get this bad. I saw it turning down a bad path early on and tried to help prevent it, but it took off on its own anyway. BTW, woodchuck is a metaphor for any woodworking artist or craftsman or aficionado - could be custom log home or cabin builder, could be violin or viola or cello maker, could be a wood carver or stock maker, etc. I haven't studied the matter much before, but I've never heard of a real woodchuck with an overpowering toxic self-depreciating ego, who is compelled to drop names to boost his self-esteem, who blustered and threatened legal action over something another woodchuck said or did. The real woodchucks I've known went about chucking wood, or not, in their own quiet manner, and chucked wood very well, or not at all, depending on whatever suited them. You know - woodchucks being generally independant types. The root and core of a real woodchuck's esteem and respect and gift comes from within. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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