The Accurate Reloading Forums
Young Hunter with Huge Desert Sheep
21 March 2011, 19:46
KathiYoung Hunter with Huge Desert Sheep
http://www.desert-hunt.com/gallery.php#textoClick on Desert Big Horn Sheep, page 3, row 3.
At the SCI Convention I was shown a photo of this young hunter and his huge Desert Sheep. I was told the hunter is 10 years of age and the sheep scores in the 180's.
CONGRATULATIONS to the young man on the trophy of a lifetime.
Kathi
kathi@wildtravel.net
708-425-3552
"The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page."
Some things just ain't right...
Congrats to the young hunter.
Signed,
Jealous
21 March 2011, 22:55
safari-lawyerReckon what he'll do when he's 11?
Will J. Parks, III
21 March 2011, 23:29
Aaron NeilsonYep, good for him! Of course, I wish I could have done that at age 10, but I'm happy for the young guy.
Luis & Braulio (outfitters) are good friends and clients of mine, we've hunted Africa together a couple times. They are really the only guys in Mexico, I honestly trust!
Aaron Neilson
Global Hunting Resources
303-619-2872: Cell
globalhunts@aol.com
www.huntghr.com 22 March 2011, 01:09
Brian ClarkWow! that young man has no idea how lucky he really is. You think the family might adopt me.
That's a heck of a lot of change to throw down on a 10 yr old. I had a hard time just getting a new baseball mitt out of him at that age.
22 March 2011, 01:50
Aaron NeilsonI talked to Luis about an hour ago. He said they shot a ram on the last hunt, that green scored 189 6/8"!
He also said the boy's ram should net about 187".
Aaron Neilson
Global Hunting Resources
303-619-2872: Cell
globalhunts@aol.com
www.huntghr.com That boy will be the youngest hunter to have a grand slam. He will beat his father who currently has the record. After his slam, due to age limits, nobody will be able to beat it. That family is hell on sheep.
23 March 2011, 09:27
Equinsu Ocha....sitting here ten shades of green and speechless....
25 March 2011, 01:24
505 gibbssheesh, where do you go from there?
25 March 2011, 01:27
drummondlindseyquote:
Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
sheesh, where do you go from there?
down
I don't know if it is all down from there. He can still look forward to beating his grandfathers grand slam. He has the 4th biggest grand slam ever taken or something crazy like that. I know this won't be his last big desert sheep.
26 March 2011, 00:43
drummondlindseyquote:
Originally posted by SDR:
I don't know if it is all down from there. He can still look forward to beating his grandfathers grand slam. He has the 4th biggest grand slam ever taken or something crazy like that. I know this won't be his last big desert sheep.
Good for him! He will be hard pressed to kill another 190" desert ram though
26 March 2011, 01:56
404WJJefferyBeautiful animal.
______________________________
"Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??"
Josie Wales 1866
27 March 2011, 02:40
DPhillipsJust linking the pic. Good for the little guy, that's an amazing ram.
31 March 2011, 21:37
tendramsGreat ram...and this is obviously a lucky little kid who seems thrilled to death. That said, does anyone else have mixed feelings about this? Keep in mind that I am not remotely a "sheep guy" so this is not written out of jealousy at all! Sure, the kid can and will go on to hunt other sheep and collect grand slams, but I wonder how much he is actually capable of appreciating and understanding what he has done and how great it is. It's a bit like a 15 year old kid shooting a 100 pound elephant...ruined for life?
Further, since this kid will apparently collect the "youngest grand slam"....I am not sure how I feel about animals dying to provide a 10 year old with bragging rights. Now, I am NOT taking anything away from the kid mind you...or his achievement...I just don't know how I feel about the parents' priorities and what they says to the ten year old about hunting in general.
01 April 2011, 02:35
Sevenxbjtquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
That said, does anyone else have mixed feelings about this?
No.
04 April 2011, 05:08
SGraves155quote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
That said, does anyone else have mixed feelings about this?
No.
YES.
There are some things that are so precious, so difficult to get, that children who can not, by themselves, get there or pack it out if necessary, or pay for it out of their earnings, or be old enough to understand the difficulties involved in arranging it, should not be taken on such trips. It cheapens the experience for those who have saved a lifetime to try for a similar animal, and serves mainly as an ego boost for a parent.
---
When the child becomes mature, he will see this fantastic head not as something he accomplished thru his will and effort, but as something that he had very little part in outside of pulling the trigger, and hence may be a source of embarrassment rather than of joy.
04 April 2011, 05:30
Equinsu Ochaquote:
Originally posted by SGraves155:
quote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
That said, does anyone else have mixed feelings about this?
No.
YES.
There are some things that are so precious, so difficult to get, that children who can not, by themselves, get there or pack it out if necessary, or pay for it out of their earnings, or be old enough to understand the difficulties involved in arranging it, should not be taken on such trips. It cheapens the experience for those who have saved a lifetime to try for a similar animal, and serves mainly as an ego boost for a parent.
WELL SAID and exactly what I was wanting to say.
10 April 2011, 06:29
zhabahells bells I just want one sheep trophy and i am still dreaming at 40 and he got that at 10! lifes just not fair some times
10 April 2011, 12:00
AnotherAZWriterquote:
Originally posted by SGraves155:
quote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
That said, does anyone else have mixed feelings about this?
No.
YES.
There are some things that are so precious, so difficult to get, that children who can not, by themselves, get there or pack it out if necessary, or pay for it out of their earnings, or be old enough to understand the difficulties involved in arranging it, should not be taken on such trips. It cheapens the experience for those who have saved a lifetime to try for a similar animal, and serves mainly as an ego boost for a parent.
---
When the child becomes mature, he will see this fantastic head not as something he accomplished thru his will and effort, but as something that he had very little part in outside of pulling the trigger, and hence may be a source of embarrassment rather than of joy.
I must admit the same feelings. IMO, part of the difficulty of amassing a huge trophy collection is just paying for it. Earning a lot of money often conflicts with spending time hunting, which is why a lot of guys end up “running the table” in a relatively short time. But this kid didn’t have to worry about that, did he?
I will never forget a hunt I was on in 2001. A guy drove into our camp at mid day drinking a beer. At first I was kind of disgusted with his drinking while hunting, but then I learned he wasn’t even hunting – he had given his son a lion hunt for his high school graduation present. The kid didn’t even look like he was having a good time.
Whenever I feel guilty for hiring my daughter I think about this guy and feel a little less guilty.
10 April 2011, 18:43
mikem0553I look back at the only hunting trip I got to take with my dad and I think some of you are getting this wrong. I shot a mulie doe at 12 yrs. old and my dad was so proud of me. My dad died not long after that trip and that doe is still the best trophy I ever got. Sure I've shot a lot more and bigger big game but she is still the best because I was with my dad.
Look past the ram and see the real trophy; a boy, his dad , havig a good time together and a memory that will last a lifetime.
Sure this kid is lucky but it isn't because of the ram or that his folks have a lot of money.
If you have a kid take them hunting if you don't borrow one from a friend.
13 April 2011, 08:02
Ryan CampbellI can certainly understand some of the mixed feelings about the age of the hunter and him appreciating the hunt.
I never killed a sheep like that but I did kill a Russian Boar that would go very high in a record book for tusk when I was 9yrs old. I killed the biggest turkey in my county two seasons in a row (pure luck on my part) by the time I was 10 or so, and my first buck ever was an 11pt and was considered huge at the time.
I was very fortunate at a young age. However, my dad and uncles made sure that I understood how fortunate I was and not to take it for granted.
If the same lesson is being applied here, I have no problem with it. If it's turns him into another "Trophy Hunter" that thinks buying animals is hunting, then I do have a problem with it.
The Hunt goes on forever, the season never ends.
I didn't learn this by reading about it or seeing it on TV. I learned it by doing it.
14 April 2011, 00:30
Matt MooreWell,
As long as he is having fun, hunting ethically & legally...we have no right to judge. If we copped the attitude that his father is pushing him and providing him the opportunity, well then maybe none of us may have become hunters in the last 50 years. As far as being the youngest to complete a grand slam on sheep, that is a chance he has to take. How long do you think he is going to ride that scooter when he is older?
Am I jealous? I would love to take a ram of that size. And no, I am not jealous. My hats off to him.
Cheers,
Matt
14 April 2011, 03:19
L. David KeithGood on that young man. Ram of a lifetime for anyone!
Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#926103994110 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson
Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......
"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
14 April 2011, 09:08
drummondlindseyI see both sides of the coin here but would like to add that this would be a thrill as much for the father as we hope it was for the son. Everybody I know says it's a much greater thrill to watch your kids hunt then it is to hunt for yourself. The dad has a memory that will last a lifetime as well.
That is an outstanding sheep. I agree it is still as much the dads hunt as it would have been if he had pulled the trigger himself, but now there are two very happy hunters.
Aziz
05 May 2011, 23:56
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by zhaba:
hells bells I just want one sheep trophy and i am still dreaming at 40 and he got that at 10! lifes just not fair some times
Aren't there a lot of merinos in Auss?
07 May 2011, 00:05
JabaliHunterquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
Great ram...and this is obviously a lucky little kid who seems thrilled to death. That said, does anyone else have mixed feelings about this?
No! I'll bet everyone just had a fantastic time hunting for its own pleasure and not hung up on the trophy tape! At the end of the day, we all know that it doesn't matter how hard you hunt or deserving you are, sometimes luck is on your side and you take a phenomenal animal. Most times you don't.
Where does this chap go from here? Hopefully to go on and achieve great things, but always feel the enjoyment of the hunt, regardless of the size of trophy.
11 May 2011, 14:46
cameronaussieDear Guy's
I do not know any thing about sheep, but looks good to me.
Do you take the kids hunting or leave them at home?
Take them, they love it. before 10 year old both my son and daughter had taken game over sea's.
My dad did not take me any were. I wish he had.
I now have some one pushing me to go hunting every weekend.
Makes it easer to get over the line with the wife.
Keep it up son.
21 May 2011, 00:00
TMTAXIDERMYsome of my fondest memories are hunting with my kids. Started them out young.My son killed antelope, muley's, whitetails, bighorn sheep, and elk before he was 14. My daughter almost the same. We have fantastic family memories from those times. Both kids are mid 30's now and still talk about hunting with Dad and I am so glad I took the time to do this when they were young. I say congratulations to this kid and his accomplishment. Even tho I think he will maybe appreciate the feat more when he is older.
