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Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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Is this two bulls and two people fishing for $3500 each? 7000$ or just $3500?
 
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This is a good deal.Just bring 2 big coolers. jmho
 
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David, you have a PM about this.


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Very nice offer. Wish I had a friend!


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Posts: 16182 | Location: The LOST Nation | Registered: 27 March 2001Reply With Quote
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How big is the hunting area? Is it free range?

Also, what’s the itinerary? Hunt morning and evenings and fish mid-day? Is the fishing on a bay boat or wading from shore?
 
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I am on the boat for this hunt. I can’t wait.
 
Posts: 4302 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I am on the boat for this hunt. I can’t wait.


Wish i was joining you Joshua!
 
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PM sent.
 
Posts: 188 | Location: southern Illinois | Registered: 23 July 2012Reply With Quote
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I have never, but tried, to catch a red fish. This is going to be fun!
 
Posts: 4302 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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I cant wait!!!
 
Posts: 3137 | Location: Permian Basin | Registered: 16 December 2006Reply With Quote
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Is there a number I can reach you at? Thanks in advance
 
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One set of open dates is three days and the other is two days? How is the night hunting done? Thanks.
 
Posts: 8770 | Location: Republic of Texas | Registered: 24 April 2004Reply With Quote
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Outfitter has night vision on a .308 should you prefer to use his firearm. Hunting is still hunting or spot and stalk. Ranges can vary but most shots would be 100-150 yards. Night is when most mature bulls move. Similar to Whitetail deer.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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And if you don't want to use the .308, supply your own night visions, or a green light, or?

Thanks for the quick reply.
 
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Yes, you are welcome to bring your own suitable scoped rifle, preferably with light gathering optics.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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I am going to take either my 358 STA if it gets delivered and tuned in time.

Or my 35 Whelen with VX6HD 2x12 firedot.
 
Posts: 4302 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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Posts: 8770 | Location: Republic of Texas | Registered: 24 April 2004Reply With Quote
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I bet October would be a lot cooler and farther from my hopeful next trip to Africa.

Edit: Of course October could be 100F as well..lol.
 
Posts: 8770 | Location: Republic of Texas | Registered: 24 April 2004Reply With Quote
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When does the duck season start, if one wanted to combine this with a duck hunt?


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Posts: 3575 | Location: Eastern Slope, Colorado, USA | Registered: 01 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Duck season in TX starts in Sept with the early Teal season, then the regular season normally runs Dec/January, but they vary from year to year on season dates. You would need to check the TX game and parks web site to verify. These hunts are limited and I'm not sure at this time if they will be offered much longer. You can certainly book a Nilgai + duck hunt but I would need tentative dates to inquire. I had booked a combo hunt (Nilgai/fishing/ducks) for January but we had issues come up and had to reschedule for this Summer. Now we're only hunting Nilgai and fishing. I extended our trip for an extra day. LDK


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
Posts: 6640 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 18 December 2006Reply With Quote
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Will the weather down there have a big effect on Nilgai like it has to axis and other exotics?
 
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We will have to see once this major cold front is over. Some areas in the Gulf were closed to fishing during the lowest temps due to fish congregating in deeper pools, making it a "fish in a barrel" scenario, but as for the Nilgai and Whitetails that inhabit the prime hunting grounds, we'll have to see how they fared. Fortunately, many of the areas are covered with heavy brush and shelter from the storm.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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Well hopefully things will
End up good for everyone in Texas.

This hunt with a duck combo would be a blast.
 
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He will offer Nilgai and duck hunting next Fall, or ducks only.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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I'm guessing the large bodied nilgai survived the hard freeze/snow much better than the smaller exotics that died by the thousands.


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Hi Steve, appears all is well. Fishing reports are good (recent report as of June 9th) and Nilgai are being hunted with success. TX G&F closed fishing for a few days to prevent over harvest of the resource. That would have been the proverbial "fish in a barrel." I know so far all booked hunts are still on with the addition of Nilgai and fishing combo trips.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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If I can find a way to swing it, I gotta do this hunt in 2022.
 
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That's good to hear. Those big antelope seem to take the cold fairly well.

Getting more excited by the day for this hunt.



 
Posts: 154 | Location: Ft. Worth, TX | Registered: 31 July 2015Reply With Quote
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Interested on this with my son over summer. What dates left?


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August has a few. If anyone moves May-July I can let you know but you would need to book it asap as early-mid Summer goes fast.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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Ya let me know thanks


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Nothing open until August: 1-5, 9-12, 21-25, 29-31. September: 1-5, 7-9, 19-30.


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
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Just to be clear, what dates are available now for this year?
 
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Sounds like so much fun, I booked this hunt for me and my son this August.

Rough napkin math says Nilgai for $9 a pound! Hunt and fishing free!
 
Posts: 187 | Location: Northern Illinois | Registered: 15 May 2016Reply With Quote
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Update on this. Once I paid the deposit I found the guide’s name on FB and started looking at the posts. A lot of people asking for refunds on deposits and unwillingness to do so. Physical threats. Promised refunds never received. A lot of posts from the professional with many explanations why he cannot speak to paid customers that had hunts cancelled while other photos/posts showing he was hunting or fishing on those days.

The red flags were the posts on the Texas Outfitter Forum (70k members on that FB group) where several screenshots were shown of JT Safaris cancelling hunts, eventually agreeing to a deposit refund, then saying he needs 21 days to refund, then posts saying no refunds, its in the contract, then posts saying his wife offered the refunds and he doesn’t agree.

I don’t believe the booking agent that offered this opportunity was aware of any of this so please do not take this post to be a critique of a booking agent on this forum. I had a favorable conversation with the booking agent and I’ve never spoken with JT Safari (the guide’s FB ID) on the phone. I wish everybody well, I just don’t want to take my kid on a hunt and burn my vacation with so many accusations being spread back and forth and with the guide threatening customers.

I initiated a refund request for my deposit with PayPal and will look for another Nilgai hunt option.

Purely conjecture here, but the FB posts seemed to me to paint a picture of a professional that has had success hunting Nilgai and offering fishing trips, but was unable to fulfill bookings due to Covid, and is now trying to rob peter to pay Paul.
 
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A bit more updates on this today.


I spoke with L. David Keith who was very supportive and forthcoming. Nothing I write below about the professional guide should be viewed in a poor light about the booking agent or hunting consultant. (whichever term David prefers)


After seeing a lot of credible complaints on facebook with actual screen shots of interactions, plus seeing the professional guide threaten clients in writing, plus seeing promises to return deposits that never were returned, plus hearing a story that he just broke his boat and it caused him to break his ribs and that's why he couldn't talk with his agent, I decided to cancel the hunt.

I astutely used Paypal and paid the fees for purchase protection because I have recourse.

The guide stated that me taking back my deposit from Paypal via dispute is causing him to fail to make payments. I explained to him that you ought not live or operate off of deposits as they are escrowed until a hunt is satisfied. He told me its his business and none of my business how he operates.

He then goes on to tell me the booking agent, David, is lying to me. To which I wrote the guide the following:

"Pro tip: Never call your ambassador, evangelist, and supporter (your booking agent) a liar. Start with perhaps there was some mixed messages. Your willingness to do so is really unprofessional and again is why I will not hunt with you. You're destroying your reputation for nothing. You won't make a cent off of me, and you're still throwing your good name in the dirt for no financial gain. You have nothing to gain from your behavior and everything to lose. You already have a sullied name on FB with some customers and you're already tellng me you spend deposits the day they are received and that you have an unsigned contract I've never seen that is going to dictate that you keep my deposit. Sir, please stop for the sake of your wife and children. You get one name in this world and you're selling yours off way too cheaply."

The guide then tells me no refunds, it's in the contract, the condo and boat will be waiting for me in August. I've yet to be presented with a contract! He believes he can make up such terms.



Bottom line:

L. David Keith is ethical, reachable, and helpful.

JT Safari, Also Known as Tyler Hill, Formerly known as Outdoor Safari Outfitters as a guide appears to have questionable business practices and unsatisfied debts according to text messages posted onto this Facebook group and other locations:

https://www.facebook.com/group...ink/2736282473351115

When faced with a no-win situation where a customer gave a deposit that has recourse, the guide was relentless. Everyone knows that I'll get my deposit back. Everyone knows you can't dictate terms without a contract. Everyone knows you have to protect your reputation. Yet, this guide has decided to fight an impossible win scenario. I won't hunt with him and I'm getting my money back. Even a practical crook would say "don't expend energy where there is no payout".
 
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This guy sounds sketchy. I had discussed this w some buddies about this hunt and we were seriously considering it but I'm steering clear from it. I doubt you'll get your deposit back. Let karma take care of this. I got a friend down there that I bet could hook you up. His name is James Jeffrey and is on here but I don't know his handle. Pm me and I can give his number. He's lined a few hunts up for me and did me a solid every time.
 
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Deposits made by Paypal are refundable. Mr Moritz will get his small deposit back, there should have no no issue with that. Hunting and fishing continues without problems. Texas offers Nilgai hunts all over the State via many ranches, guides and outfits. LDK


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Deposits via PayPal if you pay the full fee are protected against fraud and you can arbitrate disputes. Not Venmo or PayPal friends and family.

My $772.00 deposit was frozen by PayPal and funds were removed from their account. Now the dispute resolution process allows both parties to plea their case to PayPal and a determination can be made.

Unfortunately, the other party will not acknowledge the dispute which means the funds are in limbo for as long as possible.

It will be many weeks before i get a chance to find out if PayPal will agree with my request and the guide knows this, hence they are slow playing the process for a refund dispute even though the funds are frozen.
 
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