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+1 on LHeym500's statement. | |||
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Jeeez... I was just kidding! Look, I sincerely hope that Heym has brought it all together and more or less reproduced a classic boxlock - Webley long bar preferably - at a great price. If they did, then they move way up in line for capturing some of my money. Problem is right now, for Heym and every other current maker, is that the market is depressed and a good quality classic boxlock is priced as low today as they have been in years. That is what they will be competing against. | |||
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There has got to be a way for a factory production based gunmaker like heym to build a double for $10k. Straight grained walnut, no engraveing, and monobloc barrels. I would love to know what their cost is on a $17K entry double. Caveat Emptor: I have little real practical experience with double rifles. | |||
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Mr. Masters: Respectfully and in good humor, the 10K monobolck rifle you just described is called a Merkel. Heym USA did a limited run called the Jaeger (German for hunter) model about 2011-2012. The entire run had Standard dimensions, neutral cast, no cheekpiece, standard 26 inch barrels, shoelump barrles, and intercepting sears, black nitrated receiver (very sharp). The price on the run was 13K a unit (I think). They were offered in one caliber 450ne. This was a one off run of 10 rifles, but call Mr. Sells at Heym USA and see what he can do. It never hurts to ask. Mr. Sells is a good guy. | |||
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So if one was developing a “checklist” so to speak of English boxlock double rifle characteristics, what would that checklist look like: - Flat back receiver - No bolsters on the receiver - Long bar action - Ejectors (although extractors would be acceptable too) - Properly proportioned splinter forearm (i.e., relatively short and compact) - Anson, Deeley or lever forearm release - Relatively thin, open pistol grip without palm swell - Teardrops or drop points - Drop at comb set up for open sights - Barrels, butt stock and forearm proportioned to give an overall svelte look - Silver’s or Silver’s type recoil pad - Others? Mike | |||
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Chopper lump (ideally) or shoe lump barrels. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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-Strap over comb. | |||
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I read in the latest issue of African Outfitter about a new Heym.There is a picture of it in there also.Are they talking about this one? | |||
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Is it titled "Heym Safari"? If that's the one you're talking about, I believe that is just a standard 88B Safari model and not the new rifle they are eluding to in the video | |||
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I was just going post "what ever happened to.." about this rifle. I saw one at Reno and really liked it. Thanks for the info. Now back to your regularly scheduled infighting... | |||
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That was a minute and a half of my life I'll never get back. Good way to alienate current owners such as myself .... JEB Katy, TX Already I was beginning to fall into the African way of thinking: That if you properly respect what you are after, and shoot it cleanly and on the animal's terrain, if you imprison in your mind all the wonder of the day from sky to smell to breeze to flowers—then you have not merely killed an animal. You have lent immortality to a beast you have killed because you loved him and wanted him forever so that you could always recapture the day - Robert Ruark DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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No it is not the 88.It is a new model just introduced-the model 89.It has a "Webley screw-grip boxlock action" | |||
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Looks great from here! I love it, but it doesn't appear to be the budget double of my dreams. Sigh. | |||
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Shame it's not a full length picture of the rifle.. A cropped photo should be easy to provide,no? | |||
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What has happened to the bolster? I wasn't all that wrapped in the geometrical version on the 88PH but at least it reinforced the angle. | |||
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Beautiful! Classic lines! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Nice huh, actually looks British now.  Mike | |||
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Thats certainly a big improvement aesthetically on the 88, As Oz said , would like to see a full length photo to assess the forend and barrel profile. A step in the right direction imo. CHEERS Nick | |||
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Very nice.If I was thinking of getting one I don't know which I would get as the 88 is also very nice and original. | |||
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Great looking rifle. .....and the price is??????????????? | |||
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Dave, just get out the checkbook. As they say, if you have to ask, then..... :-) | |||
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Well Chris, I guess that picture will settle the controversy as to the new rifle being a classic example of Britt styling. Damn I wish I had not missed your shoot! That rifle is the best of both worlds. As someone said in the film Germany just got a lot closer to England, and I agree! When a person like Mark Cash says "here is a rifle you don't have to go to England to get" says volumes! .........................................................  congratulations! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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This may be a very minor point, but that safety is really nice. Both models safeties work and work right. I am not saying otherwise, but it is a noticable improvement when you manipulate it. | |||
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Thanks, Mac. We missed having you at the shoot. A few have reached out about this rifle and asked if it will replace the 88B. No, the 89B is in addition to the model 88B. More details on the rifle will follow soon, but - in the interim - please note that the model 89B is not "vaporware"... which is to say that one rifle has been built, and someday we might build more... The 89B has been in development and testing for several years, and there are real rifles currently in production. We will have several at the shows. Wait until you see a photo of it with case colors...  | |||
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You going to tell us the price or would you like me to send a blank check?.....  | |||
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Price-wise, the 89 will be a little more expensive than the 88. You will find the base model 89 to fit between the "PH" grade and the "Safari" grade (assuming you're familiar with the 88 lineup.) Of course as more engraving, nicer wood, etc... are added, the price will naturally increase. We will release more details on the rifle over the next few weeks as we finish them up, and we will have all of the pricing gaps filled in soon. In the interim, thanks for everyone's patience, and thanks for the compliments on the rifle. We are very pleased with the end result. | |||
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How is mine coming along? Mac | |||
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Hi, Mac. Your barreled action is in production, and I'll be able to send you some engraving sketches pretty quickly. | |||
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No doubt there will be some good deals on second hand older models to come | |||
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Sweet. Find any killer wood? I purchased what looked to be a great blank from Adam Freeman months ago but it appears the asshole has gone MIA with the blank and my money. He was keeping communication open with his "problems" but now is not returning calls. Mac | |||
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Never gave the Heym a second glance due to the lines of the back of the action. Classic English looks and dynamic handling.......along with rock solid reliability...... is what gets us all "hot and sweaty" about double rifles and I am pleased that Heym have realised it. Good work. Lovely looking double. | |||
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I thought the heym was a fine looking rifle already. This is a very nice concession to those desiring the English look. Again, I give Heym a great deal of credit for listening to their customers, it is clear they want to both make, and keep them. | |||
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Baxter, As we say here "beauty is in the eye of the beerholder". That's why they make cars, guns and girls of different sizes, shapes and hues. | |||
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Agree!! ;-) | |||
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How come Tony wasn't in the video? Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Well said. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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They had certain minimum standards on being photogenic.  Mike | |||
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 Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Tony looks alright! Hell they didn't even allow me on the property! .................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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