Just love my .204!!!
Building a 20-250IMP. in a #1. I think the 20's will be very popular in a few years. So far I've had three of my best freinds try my .204R and all three now oun at least one.
As far as which is better ,well you guy will figure it out.
338vt
P.S.

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Originally posted by driver:
VarmintGuy is a lot like wiping your ass with a hoop, no end to it.

Driver, that's classic!!

I have a mate who reckons that you're only born with so many words in you and once you've used them all up you die .
VG would want to hope he's wrong .

Ruger
I'll join in when you guys talk about somthing I know a little about.I never had a 204 or 222, just got mt first 22-250 last summer. Everything else I own is 30 cal or larger. I'm considering a 221 now but as I understand, brass can become a little hard to find at times, my second choice is 223 or 204. From what i can find outit's tossup between the 3 calibers. I'll probably boil down to best gun for the best price. That's why im following this thread so closely, trying to make an informed decision.

"critical thinking' for high level management groups" isn't that an oxy-moron kind of thing

tony

Better to be thought a fool than open your mouth an remove all doubt

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Originally posted by stoots:
Ruger
I'll join in when you guys talk about somthing I know a little about.I never had a 204 or 222, just got mt first 22-250 last summer. Everything else I own is 30 cal or larger. I'm considering a 221 now but as I understand, brass can become a little hard to find at times, my second choice is 223 or 204. From what i can find outit's tossup between the 3 calibers. I'll probably boil down to best gun for the best price. That's why im following this thread so closely, trying to make an informed decision.

"critical thinking' for high level management groups" isn't that an oxy-moron kind of thing

Good thinking Tony, there is a wealth of really useful info on this site, and most members will bend over backwards to give reasonably objective opinions and help...

Best advice I cangive is never be afraid to ask what you might think is a 'dumb' question... you'll cop some FLAK from the smart arses here, but the genuine ones will always help.

As to the oxy-moron... yep!! Businesses are starting to realise the social and economic cost of not being able to 'think critically' - it's taken them a while, but it gives me LOTS of work...

rugeruser and driver: You two committed members of the 204 Ruger naysayers fraternity still can not refute the splendid performance of the 204 Ruger NOR any of its other wonderful attributes!
Have you given up trying to prove a factual case and have only personal attacks and slanders to try to take the place of any factually based argument?
LOL!
Well thats not working either boys, the 204 Ruger is gaining popularity every day!
And part of the reason the good word is spreading regarding this wonderful and efficient cartridge is the real life experiences shared from shooter to shooter who have actually owned and used the 204!
Folks with open minds and who have actually OWNED AND SHOT 204 Ruger Rifles are telling other folks how wonderful they perform and how efficient they are and on and on!
You few 204 Ruger naysayers are failing in your feeble attempts at besmirchment - because you simply can not prove your case!
There are so many open minded people who ARE interested in excellent accuracy, excellent ballistic performance, long barrel life and cartridge efficiency. You just CAN NOT fool them all with you grade schoolish name calling.
And in reality, thankfully, you haven't fooled anyone at all!
The 204 Ruger is simply to outstanding a cartridge to be diminished by any of your immature personal attacks on anyone!
You have all, in reality, given up and you dare not try to have a factual argument any more! And that concession by you few contraries is admission in itself you have no valid arguments - you have righteously lost the debate!
And that is a good thing.
Please each of you contrary naysayers take a look at 338vt's enlightening posting at the top of this page! How much reality are you two flunkies gonna have to whipped with before you sulk off into idiots oblivion?

Stoots: I own two Varmint Rifles in 221 Remington Fireball caliber, I own to many 223 Rifles to mention and I own three Varmint Rifles in 204 Ruger caliber! I Hunt Varmints and small game year round with them - based on decades of use afield with numerous 223's and 15 years experience with my 221 Fireball Rifles and now going on two years of use with my 204's I highly recommend the 204 Ruger to you!
It outperforms both the other cartridges you mention by such a wide margin that its REALLY no contest! Give this wonderful new caliber a try and I hope you can find a "good deal" on a 204!
Long live the wonderful, accurate, ballistically superior and efficient 204 Ruger!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

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That's why im following this thread so closely, trying to make an informed decision.

Dude, you's a funny guy!

Chiming in one more time!!! In support of the .204!!!
1) SUPERIOR TO THE 17 Remington!! Not even in the ball game!!
2) SUPERIOR to the .223(unless the .223 has 7 or 8 twist barrel and can stabilize the 70 or heavier prjectiles for LONG RANGE stuff!!
3) The 222MAG is superior to the .223!!! ...ok, so brass is plentiful for the 223!! everybody has at least one POS semi auto"black gun" to shoot up thousands of rounds of FMJ, military ball, junk ammo so cases aren't hard to come by!!! (There are some INCREDIBLY FINE VARMINT RIFLES BEING PRODUCED USING THE SEMI-AUTO, .223 platform!!!!) Please do not jump in my Bolt Action or Single Shot minded doo-doo on that one!!!!
4) What can a SWIFT do that a 22-250 can't do?
5) Out to 500-600, the 204 does it with less recoil, less powder, and spendid accurracy!!
Just lump ol VG and GHD into the same category!! 2 who have BTDT!!!! GHD
Long live the .222
Long live the .223
Long live the 22-250
Long live the 220Swift
LONG LIVE THE 204!!!!!!!!!!!!

Makes one wonder if this thread shouldn't be moved to the political forum with all the name calling and "lack of intelligence" insinuations....

Everyone start calling each other gay, because they have a different opinion than you do, and it will definitely qualify for the political forum....

We happy band of brothers....

Bloody hell are you lot still argueing. I last checked this thread a month ago.

You guys ned to spend a little less time in fromnt of the screen and a bit more out shooting your toys

FWIW, I don't give a sh*t either way, but it's been fun pushing VG's 'buttons'....

rugerlooser: You on your absolute best day don't have 1/10th the horsepower needed to push any button I own!
You are WAY out of your league there little guy. I toy with you and whip you with facts and first hand experiences for the fun of it. And to keep your brand of baseless bias from getting a foot hold.
And you have still fallen oh so short (you have grown used to that by now though haven't you!) in leaving ANY form of besmirchment on the fine and superior 204 Ruger cartridge!
Don't go away mad, there rugerlooser try to come up with some kind of factual argument - please!
You have been so lacking in your "stirrings' as of late, I hate to loose you as the butt of so much earned criticism.
You, my poor excuse for a man (like someone suggested above - maybe you are a twinkie?), have been proven to be completely without factual argument and quite lacking in real life extensive hands on experiences with the wonderful new 204 Ruger cartridge!
More and more satisfied users are coming on line every day around this country rugerlooser - you Aussies may take some more convincing it seems!
So be it mate!
With your head on backwards, I am not sure if you can follow this bit of advice, but try to pay attention to sales figures of the 204's, ammunition sales, written articles, ballistic tables, trajectory charts, word of mouth and lastly try to get a little bit more first hand experience under your belt!
You might just convince yourself what a wonderful, accurate, efficient and ballistically superior round this fine new factory cartridge IS.
Naw, on second thought you obviously don't have the mental capacity to observe and comprehend on your own.
To bad that.
204's - FOREVER!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

And I don't push your buttons??

Obviously not!

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Originally posted by VarmintGuy:
rugerlooser: don't have 1/10th the horsepower You are WAY out of your league there little guy. I toy with you and whip you with facts and You, my poor excuse for a man (like someone With your head on backwards, I am not sure if VarmintGuy

What an egotistical, wanna-be if there ever was one! All you do is buy guns and write lengthy rants on the internet.

[Did that guy, Ted Koslinski, the Una-Bomber, somehow get hold of a computer in Colorado's SuperMax?]

Hey VarmintGuy lets see some of those facts by answering the following questions I have been asking you for the last 3 pages of this post! here so you don't have to go back and look for the post I copied it AGAIN for you.

Ok VarmintGuy since your so full of factual information maybe you can answer some of the following questions for me,

1st When did I become a 204 naysayer and where is the post to prove it?

2nd Nothing against Mr. Boddington but I'm pretty well sure I'm not going to talk baddly about the person that pays to advertise on my show, it may be a good group but how many times did it take to get there?

3rd If what you call experience I say attitude you must be a real hoot to be around, can you post something without negativity or name calling and just get to your facts?

4th When did I become a petty prick? I say if you got the pictures post em' if you can't figure it out Hipster made you an offer to help you out, why don't you ask for help with those pictures? if you can e-mail them to me you can post them on this site! I don't doubt anyone about there shooting, it's like drag racing someones gonna beat you eventually.

Now see if you can answer these questions without going off in left field or pulling something out of thin air, you speak of your facts and experience lets see if you can answer the questions above? remember no BS fluff to make the post so long as to nobody wanting to read it just answer the questions and please show the proof of where I mentioned the statements you accuse me of please.

Kirk

Hello Ksmirk
Would not worry about VG answering any questions of any type. His writings are on a 3rd grade level and his satements are always a collection of name calling, slurs, slams, nonsense, etc. and I assume that is about the extent of his abilities.
If you will notice his favorite saying is to "hold into the wind..." and the problem with VG, he has no idea which way the wind is blowing, up, down, right, or left!!!! Pay him no mind as several others have suggested to me. VarmintGuy is like having gas, that too will pass!!!

Is this thread still going???????????!!!!!! This horse was DEAD about 14 or 15 pages back! No matter which side of the fence you're on you're not going to change the other guys mind.

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Originally posted by tdobesh:
Is this thread still going???????????!!!!!! This horse was DEAD about 14 or 15 pages back! No matter which side of the fence you're on you're not going to change the other guys mind.

You will have to admit though there are many funny parts here. There is also some good info and when things are civil a very good debate. Yup some of us do posture a fair amount but that is to be expected when preferences and likes come into play. I don't get too worried about ranting and raving, it for me is a good chuckle after work while having a nice cold beer.

I did get time to shoot a Factory match April the 9th. I placed second with a 220 Swift in 100 yards 200 yards and grand aggregate score. I was beat out by a Sako Factory in 6 PPC and was just ahead of one of those Savage LE tac's in .223 I had a shitty day but the rifle and cartridge kept me in it. Well them is the breaks and that is what makes it fun. Next time around I could be on the money and have the rifle go down the tubes. There was quite an assortment of cartridges at this match. Mostly small calibers. There were 3 .204's Two Rugers and a Rem. Best one of the bunch was 9th. Don't get me wrong I am not knocking the .204, wind was a very strong factor from the third relay at 100 through 200,. I have been learning how to read wind flags and what my windage differences are at 100, 200 yards for over 3 months and it sure made a difference. Now if I could just get a handle on mirage I might do better next time around.

Well back to packing, took a transfer West last month. No more Ground Hogs, now I get Prarie Dog's and Rock Chucks. Not to mention Mule Deer, Lopes and Elk. Boy O Boy I can't wait to see the Mountians. Hopefully this thread continues as well need to have at least one smile a day.


See you all soon.

Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc. It is all about what makes you happy. Although there are some objective differences between the aforementioned calibers, 90 percent of any peceived difference is completely subjective. Buy what makes you happy and/or instills confidence. I can't believe that I even posted on this thread.

Lou

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
I can't believe that I even posted on this thread.
Lou

Why not?
Everyone else has...

This has been going on for so long that I have heard that Susan Lucci is going to start posting on this thread.

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Originally posted by DigitalDan:

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That's why im following this thread so closely, trying to make an informed decision.

Dude, you's a funny guy!

DigitalDan I can't believe you missed the opportunity:
www.pissing.contest.VS.facts.com

Posted 18 April 2006 07:34
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Originally posted by DigitalDan:

quote:
That's why im following this thread so closely, trying to make an informed decision.


Dude, you's a funny guy!
DigitalDan I can't believe you missed the opportunity:


Dry sarcasm, You can't tell whem I'm serious or when I'm being a smart ass. I love this place

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Originally posted by stoots:
Posted 18 April 2006 07:34
quote:
Originally posted by DigitalDan:

quote:
That's why im following this thread so closely, trying to make an informed decision.


Dude, you's a funny guy!
DigitalDan I can't believe you missed the opportunity:


Dry sarcasm, You can't tell whem I'm serious or when I'm being a smart ass. I love this place

stoots, ya need to click on Flippy's link!!



Smedley

Smedley,

The link won't work for me.

What's really sad is I was going to get a CZ in .204 before this thread started. Now I don't want one.

Jstevens: I wouldn't let all the garbage that has been flung on this thread, affect your decision to buy a 204. It is a fine cartridge, although I am a Swift man, and have argued for it here. There's no question the Swift is the better thumper, and I would choose it for "bigger" varmints, but the 204 is a fine P-Dog, etc. shooter and should be considered for that job. A 40 grain bullet at 3774 in the 204, vs a 55 grain bullet at 3839 in the Swift, according to Hodgon, well you choose. I am sure more crap will fly, just like pigs do, LOL!.

I think we should start a new thread, and get away from this all together.


Jerry

I've never shot a .204 or a swift. I just didn't want to be the only guy on AR that didn't post to this thread.

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Originally posted by jstevens:
What's really sad is I was going to get a CZ in .204 before this thread started. Now I don't want one.

Why?
Because the .204 doesn’t burn 46g of powder?

That’s like saying you decided to get rid of your 30-’06 because you heard about the 300RUM.
Different cartridges for different purposes. Jerry here has it right.

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Originally posted by Jerry Eden:
Jstevens: I wouldn't let all the garbage that has been flung on this thread, affect your decision to buy a 204. It is a fine cartridge, although I am a Swift man, and have argued for it here.
There's no question the Swift is the better thumper, and I would choose it for "bigger" varmints, but the 204 is a fine P-Dog, etc. shooter and should be considered for that job.
A 40 grain bullet at 3774 in the 204, vs a 55 grain bullet at 3839 in the Swift, according to Hodgon, well you choose. I am sure more crap will fly, just like pigs do, LOL!.

I think we should start a new thread, and get away from this all together.


Jerry

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Originally posted by stoots:
Smedley,

The link won't work for me.

Your dog , your wife , a 204 , a 220 , and a blowjob . What do they all have in common ? You can beat all of them except the blowjob ! You just cant beat a blowjob .

quote:

Originally posted by tdobesh:
Is this thread still going???????????!!!!!! This horse was DEAD about 14 or 15 pages back! No matter which side of the fence you're on you're not going to change the other guys mind.

Yep. I should have taken DD's bet on when this thread would end.......

quote:

Originally posted by DigitalDan:
I'm gonna hang around and see who gets the first nose bleed...

Not me, I'm only here because it's slow on the Humour forum tonight!

So what's a better caliber, a 204 Ruger or a 220 Swift????

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Originally posted by woods:
So what's a better caliber, a 204 Ruger or a 220 Swift????

I dunno but rather than read 473 posts to find out, I'm gonna buy one of each. That way I'll have er covered if there is a pop quiz later. I'm going to the fridge for another.

You guys need to get a clue...the best varmint caliber is best when fired by someone who knows what the hell he's/she's doing....no difference to the those who are truly good shots...go get a clue...y'all are arguing apples and mangoes!

quote:

Originally posted by woods:
So what's a better caliber, a 204 Ruger or a 220 Swift????

Yes it is!!


Smedley