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I have cobbled together info from a number of different threads. Here is my question.
If ruger puts out a 404 ruger, could it be loaded with .41 mag pistol bullets?

I'm pulling from threads about the 400 newton and stuff.






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Yes.
Ditto for the 470 NE and 470 Capstick. Great fun shooting the 400gr pistol bullets made for the 480 Ruger, etc.

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Hmm. A very hard pistol bullet and a light charge would make a dandy whitetail combo.
And big bullets would handle the rest.






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Drawing down 300 grain 44 bullets would be cool.


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I have cobbled together info from a number of different threads. Here is my question.
If ruger puts out a 404 ruger, could it be loaded with .41 mag pistol bullets?

I'm pulling from threads about the 400 newton and stuff.


Here are a couple of links that'll show you the wildcat I developed - and used in Africa last year. It's a 404 Ruger (0.423") version of the 375 Ruger case. It works quite well on Cape buffalo and plains game, at least in the Ruger Hawkeye African. Although I intended to try it on elephant I've not had a shot with it so far.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/...php/topics/3253349/1

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/...375_Ruge#Post3266153
 
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No, you could not uses 41 Mag bullets as the 404 would be .423"-.424" and 41 Mag bullets are .410". What you could uses are 44Mag bullets(429") size to 0.424". What a cartridge is called is not always the size of the bullet On a lot of British cases (404-425-303-300-470-465-577) the number is the size of the hole in the barrel before they put in the rifleing.
 
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boom stink: I have used Lee sizing dies to take Rem .357 158gr sp to .329" in one pass.
 
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No, you could not uses 41 Mag bullets as the 404 would be .423"-.424" and 41 Mag bullets are .410". What you could uses are 44Mag bullets(429") size to 0.424". What a cartridge is called is not always the size of the bullet On a lot of British cases (404-425-303-300-470-465-577) the number is the size of the hole in the barrel before they put in the rifleing.


Have to call you on this one Fat_Albert. 404 is definately not the bore size of the 404. With a 423 nominal groove (4225 actual) on my Jeffery the bore dia is 416.

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You could paper patch 41 mag, 405 Win and 410 rifle bullets for the 404 Jeffery.
That could be fun.


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Von Gruff: I was talking in general terms. If I was PERFECT I would be a moderator.
 
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Von Gruff PS: If a 300H&H is 0.308" why did they not call the 375 the 366 H&H?
 
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Because the .375 H&H uses 3/8" bullets?



If you want to use .41 caliber handgun bullets, buy a .450-400. Over 28 grains of Trail Boss, I don't think you'll find a big bore that's cheaper or more fun to shoot.

 
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I use 44mag 300gr bullets in my 404Jef as is, no problems. Nice plinking load.
 
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no .. not directly -- i wish people would answer the @#$@#$ questions, rathar than play more games.

no, you can't use .429 bullets in a .424 barrel .. but you CAN buy a draw die, and sizing them down, creating a smaller bullet, that MAY have structural issues, internally.

die costs 50 bucks, but you CAN NOT use .429 bullets UNLESS RESIZED in a .424 without huge pressure issues.


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