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 i can only come up with a couple of refrences on it... winchester knows nothing about it... what is the parent case? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | ||
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i do... heh that's the 416 howell - made off the 404.. , or a few grains short of the 416 AR, opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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good to know  i thought the 404 case head was larger 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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BS the 404 is .540 -- which is why rem/win called the ultra/wsm cases "proprietary" at .550 jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Does this help?  MM | |||
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great info...thanks 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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You might be thinking of the cartridge Mr. Ken Waters did a bunch of years ago. He necked the 350 Rem Mag up to 416 and went from there. I got him the reamer from JGS when he had some problems with his order. The cartridge is a great "MID-RANGE" type 416. I have one I made up in my shop on a Ruger [old model] 77 SA that is the cats meow for the stuff in the trees. Overall length [COL] is 2.810 with a 400 Barnes. VERY authoratative in a light weight rifle but VERY accurate too. Aloha, Mark When the fear of death is no longer a concern----the Rules of War change!! | |||
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Mark, Allow the picture to download above and read the article.. the 416 winchester is the 416 howell, ken also called his 416x350rem (as you made) the express, but the honest question was what's the 416 winchester opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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according to steve at stevespages this is what he said... At 09:47 AM 1/3/06 -0800, you wrote: >hi there...what can you tell me about the 416 winchester express? i >came accross it on your website and was not familiar with it...is it a >wildcat or an old cartridge? if a wildcat what is the parent case? >thanks... boom stick This cartridge was designed and developed in 1979 but never reached the production stage. I bleieve that Ken Howell first dreamed it up, based on the 404 Jeffery case. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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You mean this could have been used and pounced on for wildcatting for 26 years!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think Winchester owes us an apology! | |||
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damn tootn torque! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I think the fargin' iceholes should go good and build the bloody thing! | |||
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they didn't... now there's a new case, that cost's 1/5th of what the 404 cases do... and it's the 416 AR!!! jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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