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Originally posted by ted thorn:

She reminds me of one of those fold-out road maps you could buy at gas stations.

George

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Originally posted by ted thorn:

I would give her a Mustache ride!!!!

I'd get her tested for STD's first.

A question, to every thing in life there is a life cycle. Serious fans do it, then the general public goes apeshit and every body is doing it. Then, the novelty wears off, and the life cycle goes from mature to old age. And back to just true fans doing it.

Tattoos aren't something you just give the Salvation Army like old clothes when the style changes. Wait until you get a little older, and the tattoo fades, or you find out that your skin does not age under the tattoo like parts of you that are not covered in ink.

This young lady goes in for a job interview someplace, who is going to hire her? First impression is a loser...

Rich

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Then, the novelty wears off

-son, that shit DON'T wear off.

Looks like she has a job Rich

My workforce is primarily female. I probably have one of the largest tattoos you'll ever find on an ordinary woman, and it hasn't hurt my employment at all. Now, I have to admit, my clothing covers it almost completely. Only the very top of it shows. But, my supervisors know it's there.
I do the hiring and firing in my department. I manage about 55 employees. Of which only 3 are men. Tattoos are so common that they have no bearing on a person's employability for me. In fact, if I excluded candidates on the basis of visible tattoos, I wouldn't have enough people to do the jobs I need them to do. I'd say approximately 75% of my ladies have visible tattoos. Also I've noticed that there is no correlation between tattoos and job performance.

While tattoos are not my thing, and I am incredibly thankful my four offspring have to this point decided against marking up their bodies with ink, if that photo Ted posted is not airbrushed/photoshopped, it shows an incredible amount of artistry. The men and women who did her tattoos are artists. Period.

Again, not my thing, but artistry none the less.

I definitely like the footwear. Nice.......


GWB

Like the cigar fad of a few years ago so shall this pass except for those that indulged themselves.
Yeah there are a few women with tiny tats in the office and a few on the women in operations. Some tattoed male machine operators.
Zero professional males have them.

Do you think a doctor would deal with tattoed people when they specified hip, knee and shoulder joint implants???

I just watched the finale of Ink Master on TV....some of those tats were beautiful. I don't have any, primarily because of what I do for a living.....but they don't bother me as long as they're concealed at work.

Truth is, the folks with the tats don't give a flying fork what we think anyway.

"Do you think a doctor would deal with tattoed people when they specified hip, knee and shoulder joint implants???"

SR4759.....I might be able to answer this question if I understood it.

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Originally posted by SR4759: Do you think a doctor would deal with tattoed people when they specified hip, knee and shoulder joint implants???

me too.....don't get it

I already knew how to spell "damphool" in euphimistic English. Now I know how to do it in pictographics.

If they like it, fine. I don't, and I don't give a damn whether they care what I think of it or not. So I guess we're even on that one. Still looks like gutter trash to me.

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Originally posted by SR4759:
Zero professional males have them.

Just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they're not there. Lots of professionals have them in hidden places. Even many doctors. This, I know.

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Originally posted by Norton:
I just watched the finale of Ink Master on TV....some of those tats were beautiful. I don't have any, primarily because of what I do for a living.....but they don't bother me as long as they're concealed at work.

Truth is, the folks with the tats don't give a flying fork what we think anyway.

"Do you think a doctor would deal with tattoed people when they specified hip, knee and shoulder joint implants???"

SR4759.....I might be able to answer this question if I understood it.

My corporation manufacturers titanium hip, knee, and shoulder implants. They are marketed to doctors all over the globe. The engineering, marketing and sales staffs have to meet with designing surgeons and practicing surgeons to sell them on the merits fo the implant systems. That means no tattoos.....

There was a dive a few miles down the road when I was a kid where guys on ratty old bikes hung out. Most of the guys were tatooed, greasy, cons that soon rotated back to prision to live like the lion in the cage out side the joint...
I think that is the way most of us view tattos - as license plates for criminals.

yep you got me.....tattoo=scum.....

The mother of my two children (a medical professional) and myself disagree with you.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
yep you got me.....tattoo=scum.....

The mother of my two children (a medical professional) and myself disagree with you.

A person has to read fairly carefully before they take the bait.

Nobody said people with tattoos are all scum.

What I said was "they LOOK like gutter trash" to me.

And in the situation where all one has to steer their judgement of those with whom they are dealing is their apearance, that is the impression one gets from a person who goes overboard with any feature, whether Ubangi lip-enlargement, Mohawk haircuts, or yes, tattooing.

The problem with any sort of voluntary extreme appearance is that it dominates the social situations and prevents the normal learning of a person's other qualities, good or bad. So most people avoid having to solve the puzzle of who the excessively adorned really are. They just write them off and avoid them where possible.

What is too much is very similar to the useful definition of alcholism. That diagnosis isn't determined by how much one drinks, or when, but by whether it causes one problems in either his work or personal life.

Makes me laugh every time....keep-em coming

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Makes me laugh every time....keep-em coming

That's fine, enjoy yourself. I only hope smugness doesn't some day cause you regrets.

Smug....no, I just find comedy easily.

I've got a vocational tattoo!

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Originally posted by NavyVet:
My workforce is primarily female. I probably have one of the largest tattoos you'll ever find on an ordinary woman, and it hasn't hurt my employment at all. Now, I have to admit, my clothing covers it almost completely. Only the very top of it shows. But, my supervisors know it's there.
I do the hiring and firing in my department. I manage about 55 employees. Of which only 3 are men. Tattoos are so common that they have no bearing on a person's employability for me. In fact, if I excluded candidates on the basis of visible tattoos, I wouldn't have enough people to do the jobs I need them to do. I'd say approximately 75% of my ladies have visible tattoos. Also I've noticed that there is no correlation between tattoos and job performance.

Do you think maybe you're more inclined to hire them because of your own status? I used to hire too and it took very careful effort to disregard subliminal personal preferences. In my case there were usually two kinds of heavily tatted applicants and they were easy to distinguish. Some guys were into the art, and some did stupid things when they were drunk or in prison.


In neither case did that alone tell me how they would perform as employees; only who they were when they got the tats.

But I would say that the specific things that were in the tats themselves gave me a window into their minds I wouldn't otherwise have had. Sometimes they are too much information.

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Originally posted by SR4759:
I think that is the way most of us view tattos - as license plates for criminals.

So, how do you view the members of the United States Navy, the vast majority of which sport at least 1 tat? Some of these guys and gals have the highest security clearances available and work on a daily basis with nuclear material. I personally know many SEALs that sport ink. Do they fall under your "license plate for criminals" category.

As to your "Zero professional males have them." I hoist the B.S. flag. I know a lot of "professional" men that have ink. You may not see it, but it is there. I personally have 4 tats. You would never know I have tats if I was standing next to you in a short sleeved shirt, and I hold a Top Secret clearance.

Do I fall under the "license plate for criminal" banner as well? After all, I've only been on active duty for 23 years and have 173 men working under me. You're painting a large portion of America with a very broad brush. That's a dangerous stance to take. Not a good idea to begin down that road. One of these folks with a "license plate for a criminal" may be the guy that pulls your ass out of a wreck on the highway or even teaches your kids and grandkids history in school 5 days a week. He or she may even be the principal of the high school or your pastor.

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Originally posted by waterrat:
I've got a vocational tattoo!

Greatest.

Photo.

Ever.

I recently started dating a lady who I found out has two tatoos. Not being one with any on my body, I was a bit put off at first, but tried to keep an open mind. One of her tats runs up her belly from her navel to her sternum. The other is under her left arm, on the side behind her breast. When I asked her about them and why she had them, she explained that she'd nearly died in an auto accident when she was a teenager, and her tats cover up large scars from surgery. She ruptured her spleen in the accident, and has a scar that runs all the way from her navel to her sternum where the surgeons had to open her up to repair her spleen, and the tat covers it rather nicely. It is of 4 flowers, large enough that you can't see the scar, thin enough to be tasteful. The one under her arm covers a scar where a chest tube was inserted. It is also a flower. She is (was) pretty self concious about her scars, so she decides to cover them up with some artwork. She likes to wear a bikini, and has a body to do it even at her age, so the tats work nicely compared to her scars.

I'm fine with both of them. She's a wonderful lady, definitely NOT scummy in any way, shape or form. One thing that helps is that despite being in her late forties, she has a very flat stomach and a 'six pack', so they look just fine. She does agree that visible tats that cannot be covered up with cloting have no place in a professional workplace, but feels that as long as they're covered, it is nobody's business but the person who has them. I agree with her.

As for the kids, my son has a couple including a large fish hook and yellowfin tuna (he's a hardcore offshore fisherman) and my daughter has one that includes a bible verse that holds special meaning to her. He'd like to get one done of a large buck he killed on the Kaibab a few years back, which I'm fine with as long as he can keep it covered at work. Both kids are able to cover them with clothes, so I'm cool with them.

While I"m not a fan of tats, I don't really have any issue with them unless they are on the face or neck. I do find those offensive and the domain of prison inmates or gang members. Especially with tats, there are limits as far as I'm concerned about where to draw the line.

After making the post above, I went back and read all the postings, which reminded me of one more tatoo story, one that I think will resonate with many on here. We have a friend whom I'll call "Jack" who is married to the daughter of a good family friend. Two years ago, Jack, his wife and her family were at my parent's house for Christmas. Jack had recently returned from an extended combat tour in Iraq. Now Jack is about the most clean cut young man you'll ever meet in public, very fit and presents himself well. After dinner, we were sitting around the dinner table and talk turned to his time in Iraq. Somewhere in the conversation we got to talking about losing fellow soldiers and what that was like. Jack stood up at the table and lifted his shirt to reveal three tatoos, all names, written across his ribs. At first, we were a little taken aback that a guest would raise his shirt at the Christmas dinner table to reveal his body art, but then my mom asked him why he had those names on his side. Jack replied...

"All three of those names are of soldiers in my platoon, who I held in my arms while they died after being wounded in combat. I'll carry them with me for as long as I live." All I could think at that point was, WOW!

Some of us have extremely personal reasons for tatoos, and the rest of us might do well to understand that.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
Do you think maybe you're more inclined to hire them because of your own status? I used to hire too and it took very careful effort to disregard subliminal personal preferences. In my case there were usually two kinds of heavily tatted applicants and they were easy to distinguish. Some guys were into the art, and some did stupid things when they were drunk or in prison.


In neither case did that alone tell me how they would perform as employees; only who they were when they got the tats.

But I would say that the specific things that were in the tats themselves gave me a window into their minds I wouldn't otherwise have had. Sometimes they are too much information.

No, Tiggertate. I don't have any inclination to hire people with tats. During an interview, I look for knowledge of the job, their diction, their patience, calm demeanor, etc. Tats are irrelevant. I have no preference.
I have only come across one applicant with an offensive tat. And it was across the front of her neck, so it would be impossible to keep it covered. I didn't hire her. Not because of the tat. But for other reasons.
Tats are just extremely common. I cannot exclude applicants based on the presence of a tat, or I wouldn't have any employees. And many times I have more openings than I have applicants.

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Originally posted by Flags:

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Originally posted by SR4759:
I think that is the way most of us view tattos - as license plates for criminals.

So, how do you view the members of the United States Navy, the vast majority of which sport at least 1 tat?

In my own view, the problem is not people with tats. It is people with "excessive" tattooing.

As I posted before, any kind of excess in one's appearance can get in the way of other, more meaningful (and more important) communication....and that is usually not to the long term benefit of the excessively unusual appearing ones.

I myself have a tat on my right bicep. An anchor, and USN. I have had it since 1952...got it while on shore leave, at Bert Grimm's Tattoo Parlour on the Long Beach, CA boardwalk. Brings back a lot of memories associated with that era when we were playing games with the North Koreans and Chinese mainlanders.

But it doesn't distract the thoughts of those I am trying to converse with, plan with, or manage, either. Excessive tattooing would.

Ah, as AC said, the sin is in the excess.(IMO) We were looking to hire a new person. One of the applicants had quite a bit of ink. It could have been covered with sleeves and a buttoned top collar be he choose not to.
Mind you, regardless of any bias I have, the man would be meeting our customers, representing our company. Customers from all walks of life and all levels of the socio-economical strata. So the concern is not how I percieved him but how would he be percieved by the general public. The topper was when he opened his mouth to speak, he had a #@!!*# stud stuck through his tongue. Perhaps he could have been counciled to leave the stud at home and his tats covered BUT I didn't think that was our job. My theory is that when an applicant shows up, that's the best he's gonna be.
He didn't get the job.

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Originally posted by 333_OKH:

Anyone else notice that the lions share of these broads are redheaded?

Wife is a redhead, and so is her mother. Neither of which has a tattoo.

X-wife is a redhead, and has about 19 of them.

I think I upgraded.

When it comes to tattoos, people of my generation [born in the 1950's] relate to the fact that ONLY 3 kind of people got tattoos.

Sailors, and some Marines, Bikers and Whores...

However in Todays World, that has totally changed.

It has become much more mainstream.
Now I am not talking about Prison Tats, but the tattoos that "somewhat normal" people are getting.

Some of these tattoos are truely works of art.
And very expensive.

Sometimes you cannot judge a book by its cover.

Still I will never get one.

I have known several people that got one or more, and later wish they did not have it.

I will never forget my Dad but I see his name every day.....I miss my best friend.....now 17 years ago RIP Dad

We are currently in Australia, some friends were over and my wife and the couple were talking about how common it was for people in the 15-30's to have tattoos now days.

Neither one of the couple had tattoos either.

A lot of Australians get tattooed when they go to the United States or Canada on vacation, as tattoos are cheaper there.

In Australia it is not uncommon to spend $20,000 on sleaves.

By sleaves I assume you mean sleeves --full arm tats. When I think of what all I could do with $20,000, self mutilation doesn't even begin to make the list.

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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
By sleaves I assume you mean sleeves --full arm tats. When I think of what all I could do with $20,000, self mutilation doesn't even begin to make the list.

Haha! I couldn't agree with you more!

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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
By sleaves I assume you mean sleeves --full arm tats. When I think of what all I could do with $20,000, self mutilation doesn't even begin to make the list.

What would you spend it on....your money, what trips your trigger?

I have lost sleeve money on a bad day in the market

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Originally posted by NavyVet:
My workforce is primarily female. I probably have one of the largest tattoos you'll ever find on an ordinary woman, and it hasn't hurt my employment at all. Now, I have to admit, my clothing covers it almost completely. Only the very top of it shows. But, my supervisors know it's there.
I do the hiring and firing in my department. I manage about 55 employees. Of which only 3 are men. Tattoos are so common that they have no bearing on a person's employability for me. In fact, if I excluded candidates on the basis of visible tattoos, I wouldn't have enough people to do the jobs I need them to do. I'd say approximately 75% of my ladies have visible tattoos. Also I've noticed that there is no correlation between tattoos and job performance.

55 employees that you hired and only 3 men? Sounds like a strong case of sexual discrimination in hiring to me!

465H&H

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Originally posted by ted thorn:

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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
By sleaves I assume you mean sleeves --full arm tats. When I think of what all I could do with $20,000, self mutilation doesn't even begin to make the list.

What would you spend it on....your money, what trips your trigger?

I have lost sleeve money on a bad day in the market

Wow, you must be rich. You can always tell really rich people 'cause they brag about it.

White trash with money....wow....not possible

Still....what do you spend your money on?

20K would get me to Africa......