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Scars, marks, tattoos (piercings) . . . first thing they want listed when booking a suspect into custody.

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My two sons are tattoo artist and own their own shop they also make a damn fine living at it.


I also have ink as does my wife.....glad you approve tu2


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No offense,
but I'll hold off for a while. Just in case I decide to convert to orthodox Judaism, and want to be buried in a jewish cemetary tu2

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My two sons are tattoo artist and own their own shop they also make a damn fine living at it.


I also have ink as does my wife.....glad you approve tu2


I'm sure they do!

It's "the rage" these days for the younger crowd. It's amazing how many kids have them. It's really mindboggling. The amount of cash they spend on them trying to fit into "their" society and look cool is amazing and quite a reflection on the state of our society.

I think they're scummy in general. Most who have them are scummy people. I know it's a stretch to make that generalizaiton as I have Unscummy friends who have them and I mean no offense to Ted or any other Unscummy folks. Big Grin

It's amazing to see people in the gym covered in tatoos. Otherwise good looking women with tatoos from the tip of their wrist all the way up the arm and around the back and neck like a sleeve. People with their entire face tatooed or necks.

How can a woman attend a formal function in a dress or person get a job in normal life with crap like that? I guess it's their way of getting their forced start in entrepreneurship. I know when someone comes into my place looking for a job, if they are covered in piercings and tatoos, it's a real obstacle for them to overcome to be employed by me.
 
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but I'll hold off for a while. Just in case I decide to convert to orthodox Judaism, and want to be buried in a Jewish cemetery tu2

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Yeah, that's my view. tu2

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Everyone is trying so hard to show their 'idividualism' yet the all look the same.


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Originally posted by rcamuglia:I think they're scummy in general. Most who have them are scummy people.


A recent survey stated that 8 out of 10 of our United States Military men carry a tattoo.....scummy?

You paint with a very wide brush.

My tattoo is my fathers name around my wrist to remind me of what a great man he was.

I lost him when I was only 25......I'm O.K. with scummy.

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Got my tats when I was in the Military except the one of my Dog who was my best friend.
 
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Each to his own. If you have a good reason, like Thorn, have at it. It makes a statement. Military tatoos, same thing, although I always wondered about the wisdom of special forces, "death from above", etc. tatoos. Seemed like a bit of a downside if you ever got picked up.

Without some sort of rationale, I tend to agree with Rcamuglia. Not sure my clientele is really into body art. And my interest is not in my staff's artistic license.
 
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Originally posted by rcamuglia:I think they're scummy in general. Most who have them are scummy people.


A recent survey stated that 8 out of 10 of our United States Military men carry a tattoo.....scummy?

You paint with a very wide brush.

My tattoo is my fathers name around my wrist to remind me of what a great man he was.

I lost him when I was only 25......I'm O.K. with scummy.

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I knew you might be offended by my opinion and that's why I stated it was a generalization. I also stated that I didn't think you were scummy and that I have friends who have tattoos.

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I know it's a stretch to make that generalizaiton as I have Unscummy friends who have them and I mean no offense to Ted or any other Unscummy folks.


But if you don't think opinions and assumptions aren't made by each of us including yourself every day on the first impression of seeing someone, you're wrongo!

When I see a heavily tattooed and pierced person, my first impression is invariably negative.
 
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I have cut and poke myself enough by accident to do it on purpose.

When my dad died I brought a new rifle to remember him by.
 
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I have cut and poke myself enough by accident to do it on purpose.

When my dad died I brought a new rifle to remember him by.


I'm with you, I'd be really put out if I had to pay for the various scars I've accumulated.

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It' like anything else; the reason matters most, not the fact. To me tattoos as body "art" is like having to wear the same damn tee shirt every day for the rest of your life. More than a few of the kids today are going to wish they could change clothes later on in life, if for no other reason than their tastes will change. As a matter od curiosity about the point Ted, I bet your boys make a good bit of cash covering up or changing old and bad tats.

Rememberence tats are whole different animal which I don't have the right or desire to criticize.


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When I see a heavily tattooed and pierced person, my first impression is invariably negative.


Generational thing. There's tats and then there's tats. In truth, it takes a pretty ambitious and hard working individual to raise the money for full coverage. Jail tats are a different matter.


I'm very fortunate in that I'm way to pretty to hide any of it with tats. Cool


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I have to agree with rcamuglia on this one. When my girls were growing up I told them they could get piercings because they would close up after a while. Tats were forbidden until they were totally self supporting.

It is a generational thing, I think. I will not hire a person with a tat that EVER shows while they are at work. I have clients that are very conservative and I won't jeopardize business for it.

We had a discussion about it in karate class one night. One of the younger girls stated that she had just one and no one would ever see it. I commented, "Oh you mean the green wings tramp stamp just above your butt? We see it every night and believ me, it ain't pretty." She started wearing longer shirts after that. Thank goodness.


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wonder how many of the young sit girls that get them ever wonder how ugly they are going to be when they get a bit older and not so fit
 
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After spending nearly 23 years in the Navy, I just realized that almost everyone I know has at least 1 tat. Not many piercings but lots of tats. But then, sailors have always been known for tats. I've got 3 myself but none of them show if I wear a short sleeved shirt.

It makes sense that this type marking would be noted. After all, they are permanent. Granted tats can be altered but they are very expensive and painful to have removed. Costs a lot more to laser them off than to get them.
 
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Some of the things posted above leads me to ask.....or state.

A person who would judge another for having as simple a thing as a tattoo....

Would this person also be the same person to judge by the color of ones skin or religion?

I have to wonder......


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Its a tribal thing, Ted. 500,000 years of using your eyes to tell friend from foe has left some pretty strong hard-wired behaviors.


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Some of the things posted above leads me to ask.....or state.

A person who would judge another for having as simple a thing as a tattoo....

Would this person also be the same person to judge by the color of ones skin or religion?

I have to wonder......


Tats and piercings are an individual choice. It goes to character. Race, gender, sexuality is not a choice.

-- And along those lines, religion is an individual choice.
 
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We are judged daily by all of those.....it's ashame.


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wonder how many of the young sit girls that get them ever wonder how ugly they are going to be when they get a bit older and not so fit


Yeah, young girl gets a rose bud tattooed on her breast, and when she's 85 she'll have a long-stemmed rose.

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My Irish grandfather began his career as a midshipman in the British navy. As a skipper in the US Merchant Marine he had two ships torpedoed from under him in the North Atlantic. He had a full rigged ship on his right bicep, and as a young boy I thought it wonderful and normal. Still do. He damned well earned it.

I vaguely considered a tat, but the only subject that I can think of is my NRA Life Member number. Problem is, it would be disrespectful of Holocast victims.
 
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Have crazy friend in US. He have tatoo of Roslin Carter on one side an Hilry Clinton on other side.
 
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Some of the things posted above leads me to ask.....or state.

A person who would judge another for having as simple a thing as a tattoo....

Would this person also be the same person to judge by the color of ones skin or religion?

I have to wonder......


Is it any different than judging a person by th wording they use in an internet chat room post????

Look at how many folks use the words a person types in a post or response on a forum, this forum as an example, as a benchmark to judge that persons character????


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It may better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.


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Thanks for proving my point Ted!

What can you or anyone else actually or accurately judge about a persons character simply from typed words on a computer screen.

Seems like I see and hear all kind of reports about people getting robbed of all their saving because they believed what someone on the internet told them.

Seems like I see and hear about folks getting arrested for propositioning "teenage" girls for sex online, only to go to the arranged meeting place and finding a cop waiting for them.

Yes Sir, I am really gonna base a judgement call on a person's character simply by words on a computer screen.


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It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

This is better.


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No what is better is to have enough understanding and backbone and balls to understand that each and every one of us view things differently, and there is not one damn thing wrong with that.

If you think that there is, you are the one with the problem!


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You asked me once if things that you said here have ever given me pause to book a hunt with you?

We are judged daily and our words speak heavily about our character.


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Again Ted, you answer the question.

Others on here have read my posts and booked with me anyway and had no problems and with the exception of the last group that came down and hunted feral hogs with us in 100 degree plus weather, and out of 6 hunters, 3 killed pigs and a fourth had an opportunity, everyone has been successful or had shot opportunities.

I was simply raised during a time when people were given a little bit of respect for being able to have an independent opinion on issues and willing to stand behind that opinion.

That seems to be something our modern society has decided is a bad deal. Everyone should be in constant suck ass mode.


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I think in this day and age with folks under 30 years old, it may be hard to find anyone without a tatto. I think it's a relatively new fad over the last decade or so.

Why is it so popular? It's amazing to me. They don't go away and the older you get, the more they look like bad graffiti.

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The reasons people get pierced and tatted vary and I understand, and not everyone who has them is a no good piece of trash. But I bet most of the folks who have proven that they are no good pieces of trash have them.

Do a survey of the % of prison inmates with tats. It is 80%

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With today's young people going into "Body Art", the question arises about how these people can advance within American professional careers. Some corporations maintain a strict policy against visible tattoos, especially companies that must make a good impression of the general public.


Tattoos have a curious history
1850 - 1900 - Tattoos used to be the bastion of carnival freak shows, with people flocking to the circus to see the amazing tattooed Lady.

1900 - 1950 - Tattoos in the early 20th century indicated a Sailor or Marine. In these cases, they did not have any social stigma, except that tattoos were generally indicative of enlisted men. Few Navy or Marine officers dared to draw on their body.

1950 - 1960 - In the early 1950's, tattoos became popular with the criminal element, mostly outlaw bikers, social outcasts and the mentally ill. It was during this time tattoos took on a more ominous reputation.

1960 - 1990 - This was the age of "prison tats" where having a tattoo indicated to some people that you were a tough, ignorant, convicted felon.

1990-2008 - Today we see hordes of low-class young people drawing on themselves with free abandon, (almost 30% of people in the 1980's). These people do not understand that a tattoo may effectively prohibit them from pursuing a professional career, regardless of their other qualifications.
Today, a prejudice still exists within corporate America about tattoos, especially since there is a clear and direct correlation between income, education and the percentage of those populations who have tattoos. It's no surprise that tattoos are more popular among the poor and under educated.

Don't kid yourself about the importance of hiding or removing tattoos. If you look at middle management and above in any of the Fortune 50 companies, you will hard pressed to find any managers that have tattoos, hidden or otherwise.

Corporate Dress Codes and tattoos
A study by Careerbuilders shows the perils of tattoos for aspiring professionals, and confirms the conventional wisdom that tattoos are a sign of immaturity, bad judgment and bad taste:

Over 42 percent of managers said their opinion of someone would be lowered by that person's visible body art. Personally, I think that the actual figure is much higher.

Three out of four respondents believe that visible tattoos are unprofessional.
You don't have look hard to find hundreds of corporations which have banned employees with tattoos. San Bernardino County California, bars all employees from wearing denim, having visible tattoos, and any piercing in the nose, lip, or tongue that contains jewelry.

In sum, tattoos send a message to corporate America that you are ignorant, low-income, that you have have bad taste, and worst of all, that you may have a criminal record.



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I told my son when he graduated from college I would tatto the date on my butt,,, at his graduation dinner I told him I had only lied to him twice,, once there really is a Santa Claus, and 2,, I would get a tattoo! They are just not for me,, I wnat no more holes in me than when I arrived. If you saw the number of patients I see with Hepatitic C,,,,secondary to a tattoo... It may give you pause before seeking to get inked. Out of the top 4 reasons for liver transplants,,, yep,, Hep c related Tats...

My son does have them, do I like them,, no,, but each has a specific meaning to him. They are not for show but for more of a tribute.....One is for me. I guess you can say it changes how I look at them on people.

It does irritate me when I see folks who definitely need cash,, you can tell by their kids tatered clothing and theirs,, but they have their Tats,,, guess it is just a matter of priorities


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My dad joined the Navy in 1940 and served for 28 years and retired as a MC.That being said he did not have any tats. When I was about 17 he informed me and my brother that if we ever came home with a tat that he would use a power sander to remove it. I have no doubt he would have kept his word. The military has taken a very dim view on tats that are visable when in uniform.


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Tattoos on a young beautiful girl is bad enough but when a 60+ year old women with the looks and weight of a walrus has a tatt on her upper breast and ankle or worst yet her thigh, it makes me want to pewk.
And then there is the nose piercing with rings through the nostrils which is totally
un-sanitary to say the least.
Last week when I was in Colorado on vacation, I saw a young guy in his late 20s with some BIG plastic washers stuck in his ear lobes with his ear lobes encompassing the washers.
The holes in the washers were the size of a 50 cent piece. Talk about something looking stupid!
A person must have a really low opinion of his or herself or an inferiority complex to do something like that.


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Tatoos bother me in the same way that hair color, piercings, cosmetic surgery and makeup do. People uncomfortable with their appearance making artificle and obvious changes to their looks. Botox is obvious and un natural. Hair color is obviously artificle. Tatoos the same.

I'm certainly nothing close to being good looking but I make some kind of reasonable effort at appearing presentable by brushing my teeth well, managing my hair, throwing away the pants with the big holes in them and keeping my not so fit figure covered. I'm not overly unhappy with any part of my appearance, ( I don't think I need any additions or changes,) and if I did I'd make them by loosing weight, increasing my chest size and decreasing my waist size. I guess I can accept what God gave me and don't feel inclined to stain or cut it up. There may well be much room in my life for personal improvement but I think I'd have much work to do in natural efforts before I turn to artificle. I've noticed lots of fat people unhappy with their appearance getting tatoos. They still look fat.

As an employer I want my employees to be regarded as little Scott Kings. Individuality in appearance, actions or communication is not desirable as the employee represents me. "We" are working to complete the customer and my view of the project. The employees individual appearance is not a consideration. A "Metallica" t shirt, visible tatoo, or piercings do not represent me and therefore are not desirable on my job. If individuality in any form is more important to an employee that earning a pay check from me I am comfortable with that decision. In this day and age when on the job I speak when spoken to, show up ten minutes early and leave fifteen minutes late. Jobs are important to me and I only want to be noticed for my good business skill and craftsmanship. I'd think with unemployment being what it is around the globe the employees would agree.

Is the last possibility at originality or individuality really ink? I'm betting Steven Hawking doesn't have a tatoo. George Washington didn't, not did Marylin Monroe Margret Thatcher or Joe Montana.
 
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My son and daughter-in-law and daughter and son-in-law all have tatoos. They all have good jobs/incomes and are doing well. However, I just do not understand decorating one's body with art. I could understand being a lifer in the Navy and having an anchor on the forearm. If one lived a some primitive tribe for years and chose to have a tatoo that represented something significant like killing a lion with a spear, I could understand that. That is, to me a tatoo should only represent a serious event in a person's life, not just be a decoration. I guess I don't see how someone would put some perminant art on their body and expect they will still want it there 40 years later, especially when the ink will probably run. I am hoping my grandchildren will not get tatoos.
 
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In a generation prone to attention-getting by means of "Body Art" the question always arises: when you change your mind, what do you do? Tattoos and fashion trends are incompatible. I have two late-twenties nieces who were all about tattoos and body piercing when they were eighteen. They both recently graduated from college and are job seeking. Employers have been 100% unwilling to hire somebody with a square inch of exposable skin in ink. The LE Agencies here in Idaho do not hire people with tats, even if ex-military. Public reaction is about the same as wearing a T-shirt that says "I have AIDS..." printed on the front.

You will note that even Madonna and Elton John and the rest of the liberal idiots have clean skin. If Madonna won't do it, that should tell you something...

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the rest of the liberal idiots have clean skin


Oh, I don't think so...

Now: while it is not anything that appeals to me, I will never get one, and am very thankful my four grown young adults have chosen not to get a tattoo, it is not up to me to judge. My opinion is just that, and worth nothing to anyone else.
 
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