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Yes,I would like a True 2 Bore Breechloader to hurl those 3500 grain Projectiles!I would want it to have a 20" Octagon Barrel with Express Sights and Killer Wood,maybe Case Hardned Receiver and not to weigh over 20 pounds...Now,where do I start? "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | ||
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DUDE, You're the man! In all seriuosness, I'm curious what kind of velocity you're looking to push those 3500 grainers at? I don't even think you'd have to shoot it, just hold it up so the elephant, buffalo, or whatever can see that cannon and they'll probably die of a heart attack | |||
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about 1400fps should do it! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Wow, good luck with this and keep us posted. How does one handle 500 lbs of recoil? Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too! Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system. | |||
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Kid, that comes out to 594 ftlbs of recoil. Thats almost 4 times are 4 bore doubles!!. It looks like my 2 bore black powder gun is going to come in at about 25 lbs. Thats light enough for me!! | |||
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Butch Searcy has the ability to build that gun, but I do not know if he would want to. You could also commission it from H&H. It would take 4 or 5 years and $200K, but they would get it done. | |||
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Try Ken Owens. I understand he specializes in 4 bore doubles so he should be your man. | |||
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Ken is a good friend and has built several 4 bores for me and friends,plus some 600s...He is taking a break now on big bores... "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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I did and he said to call YOU! Any progress on these on your end...you have the case and bullets,just need the rifle...I am ready and willing! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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yah,thats quite a "Jolt" ....maybe we can put a removable tank brake on it "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Lots of progress actually but I'm not tellin' Sending you a spreadsheet via e-mail... | |||
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I have a 5" long case and a barrel. Plan on doing a falling block in future to handle it.Cases hold enough powder to get a 3000gr up to 3000 fps.Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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One Word...OUCH Ouch! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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At almost 70,000 ft lbs of energy, that gun had better be about 100 lbs to keep from killing yourself with recoil. | |||
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My mistake, it is a mere 60,000 ft.lbs of energy, not 70,000. A 100 lb rifle will only have 354 ft.lbs of recoil. Thats a lot. | |||
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2 Bore...hmmmm....what`s wrong with a 1 bore?? DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Interesting thought "death by recoil"... I wonder about what the threshold is? ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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Doesn't the 12 gauge from hell satisfy the ballistic requirement of 3500 grains at 1400 fps? And wouldn't that be the easier route? | |||
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A twenty pound 2 bore, huh?
Sir Samuel Baker, The Albert N'Yanza, Great Basin of the Nile In another book, Baker talked about getting nosebleeds and headaches after every shot. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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One drachm is equal to 60 grains. So little "Baby" was eating 600 grains of powder for every shot. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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60,000 at the muzzle and with an estimated .290 B.C., @ 600 yards it'll be smacking 12,700!! Roughly what a T Rex starts with! | |||
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1.67" - 7000 Grains - 800fps ...maybe? Only a Viking could carry one!! | |||
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that is exactly the size of a golf ball. Max golf ball dia is 1.68" that would make for a looooong drive! bring yer 1 bore to the golf range and go for hole in ones with a good scope cheap plinking A golf ball weighs approx 700 grains. A 20 lb 1 bore should be easy to shoot 700 grains @ 3000 fps. Golf suddenly just got more interesting... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Your golf ball might be on fire when it lands on the green. | |||
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aparently this has been done... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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http://www.cannonthunder.com/ 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Tom, I've scheduled you for prophylactic neurosurgery - clearly you have something loose up there already. Failing that, I have you scheduled for orthopedic surgery to reconstruct your shoulder, clavicle, jaw and neck. I'll hold on to your big-bore collection while you recover from the surgery In all seriousness, I would like to lend you my HANS device for the first time you touch that monster off. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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From the shoulder I wouldn't fire max load from my 2/bore case either, and load above is medium presssure,and the high pressure max is much more than I posted above at 70k psi. Would get 5000 gr slug close to 3000. But hope to make mine a smoothbore and fire long sided, deep hollowbase lead slugs of about 2300 grains, then recoil be little more manageable. Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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Could you get it a little faster? At 3000 you're "only" hitting 99,800 ft lbs muzzle energy!!!!!!! | |||
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So how do you handle recoil. For example, I weigh 125 lbs, my 45-120 recoils about 75 ft-lbs, and lifts me off my front foot even when leaning way into it. I don't know what I could do to help get a quicker follow-up shot. Does this mean you would need to weigh about 700 lbs to shoot the 2 bore and not end up on your back? Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too! Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system. | |||
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SAFARIKID wears all-terrain roller skates on Safari. | |||
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Wow,I am gone for a day and look at all of this!...I guess what I want may loosen my brain up a lil to much,so I will just stick to my 7 1/2pd .600 to be "safe" "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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I'm thinking a 30 lb gun, with max from the shoulder of a 2300 gr slug at 20-2300. Any higher testing to show off, barrel will be locked onto my 300 lb rest.Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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Tyler, you need to put on some weight to shoot the really big stuff. I shoot 4 bore doubles,700 nitro and 700 AHR, and 600 overkill with pretty stout loads and my feet never move. Of course, I am anchored by my 375 lbs. That probably makes a difference. | |||
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Hubel, get a video of the recoil if you could. With the loads you posted, guessing 200 grains of powder, I see over 400 ft lbs of recoil! I would like to see your stance before firing off the big stuff. Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too! Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system. | |||
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Tyler, I'm only 40 lbs heavier than you and I don't recall a foot coming off the ground to date. Although I do feel a session at the range for a few days after as I need to work on technique. Rodney. | |||
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