40-65,

You forgot to add another $1,000 to $1,500 USD to the CZ for action truing and action smoothing and tuning and bedding and adding cross bolts, etc, etc

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Originally posted by 40-65:
You must be getting the 375 ruger for about $400 because you can get a cz550 in 375 H&H as well as 458 and the 416 rigby for just a little over $800 and they are readly available.
By the way, cz also makes 9.3x62s and they are easy to find too.
Show me where I can get a 375 ruger for $400 and I may get it so I can trade it for a 375 H&H. Never having owned a big gun and although I probably will never aford Africa, I have wanted a 375 H&H for a long time now even though I don't need it.

I was referring to a comparable rifle, such as a 375 H&H made by Ruger or Remington or Sako etc...

CZ550 Is a goood rifle but as stated, they lack a few refinement, so to speak.

For another $100 you can have a much nicer rifle in the Ruger...

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Originally posted by GaryVA:
I'll bite.

I find a 9.3x62 in a slim and trim Mauser to be on the same cosmic plane as sliced bread, air-conditioning and the indoor toilet. It's just right and there's no makin' it better.

Now on the practical side; the 375Ruger is indeed a marvel. There is no way on this green earth that if the 9.3x62, the 9.3x64, the 375H&H and the 375Ruger were all introduced at the same time and peered reviewed that any of them would survive but the Ruger. If the 375H&H were invented today and was new using todays powders, probably every gun rag would make fun of it and the H&H would crash and burn like the latest "Immigration Bill".

The 375Ruger has peer reviewed exceedingly well because it actually works exceedingly well. It is indeed brilliant w/ todays powders and todays standard rifle designs. It has opened many doors w/ the potential of a plethora of numerous wildcats.

The only thing the others offer over the Ruger is tradition and availability, nothing more.

GVA

I pulled this down to the bottom of the thread. Those comments were on the cartridge and not the rifle. Packaging the new 375Ruger in the outstanding African rifle doesn't hurt, but I'm of the opinion the cartridge has potential to stand on its own.

What I don't understand is why some of you guys sound as if you are pissed off and are somehow personally injured with any apparent success the 375Ruger may have. We should be glad that Ruger and Hornady are healthy and willing to push the envelope. Would you rather they become sheep and fall in line with the will of the current Democratic leadership in this country? Would you like them to stop their current innovation and have them cut back production to just a few standard cartridges? Are some of you guys working for a competitor and are just being paid as a mole to belittle Ruger and Hornady? Is it just plain old snobbery?

So far the 375Ruger has lived up to all the Ruger/Hornady claims and has started off on the right foot. When the boots hit the ground, it showed positive signs of success. I hope this cartridge does prove successful in the longrun and I hope Ruger/Hornady continues to push the envelope with innovation, despite the wishes and comments of any cheerleader for failure.

GVA

Hear! Hear!

Long live the .375 Ruger!

Hello GaryVA,
You made some fine points in your posting and the one about some appearing to be negative on Ruger/Hornady comes from those who simply do not like Ruger for one reason or the other. Remember, Ruger was one of the mfg. that went along willingly with the pre ban issues and 10 round mag deal and that set off the howling that is still going on yet today. Well, Ruger seems to be moving right along these days and offering some really great rifles at moderate, reasonable pricing, quality on above average level, extensive line of products and all of those things added together makes for a successful firearms mfg. I have the RSM in 375HH and a nice custom VZ24 in 9.3x62, but wish it were a Ruger Hawkeye instead. Pretty clear where my loyalties are, huh.

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Originally posted by GaryVA:


What I don't understand is why some of you guys sound as if you are pissed off and are somehow personally injured with any apparent success the 375Ruger may have.

GVA

A few reasons:


I don't like anything new

(Can't help you there, Mr Luddite )

We don't "need" it

(99% of hunters don't need anything more than a 30-06. Better dump that 280 AI, 300H&H, 300 Savage etc)

My pet cartridge is the 375 H&H.375 AI. 375 RUM. 375 Weatherby, 375-338, 9,3 etc. For some reason, this new cartridge somehow "threatens" my pet cartridge

(It's not aout how BAD the other cartridges are, it's abou thow GOOD the new cartridge can be,)

Other cartridges are better/faster/slower

Your needs may be different than my needs, and in the case of the 375 Ruger, it's performance *should* work just fine- Since the 375 H&H performance has been working fine for years...

I believe anything NEW is "marketing"

(You must be highly intelligent..You have stumbled onto a well kept secret- Companies try to make money by selling products, and introducing new products to consumers often increases sales and/or improves existing products...But if you are too clever to fall into that "marketing trap" you can just not buy the new product )

Gatehouse,

'yer killin' me man, with that logic...!

I still prefer my FN Mauser 375 IMP, mostly because it's paid for!

Rich
DRSS

I love my 9.3 X 62mm Blaser. It will never be replaced in my gun safe by the new Ruger round.

I use the 9.3 more than my .375 H&H or my .416 Rem mag. It is to me, a great "all around" cartridge. Of course, with the last name "Burkhart", what would you expect a displaced German to say. Mind you, my family left "Deutschland" in the late 1700's.

Still, there is something nastalgic about this old German round that I find very satisfying in my hands whether in the lowveld or the north woods.