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It isn't just true of the 45-70! The 50 Beowulf loaded with 420gr HC @ 1600 fps (max load by the way) will flat out penetrate a 500 A2!! Penetration media used for the test: 1.) Dry magazines 2.) Wet phone books 3.) Logs ~ 12" thick. | ||
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  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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seems nobody is taking scotts bait  577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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  Cory Still saving up for a .500NE double rifle(Searcy of course) | |||
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Not BS gentlemen, but fact! The 50 Beowulf does indeed out penetrate the 500 A Square magnum. Interestingly enough we found the 30 Carbine out penetrated the 7.62X39 also. | |||
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Maybe I'll take my .30 carbine instead of my .404J or .450 Dakota, or 7.62X39. By the way the penetration potential of the .30 carbine is not interesting....but thats just me. | |||
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-RobNever underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Please show the proof of your statement for our enlightenment. thanks KMule Hear and forget. See and remember. Do and understand. | |||
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Lower energy, further penetrating, bullets, in 45-70, 50 whatever, 500 S&W,480 Ruger-- don't equate to better kills in dangerous big game- It doesn't yield more damage and shock to dangerous big game.Much better have 3 times the energy all dumped in the animal making damaged area the size of oil drum, 2/3 the way through..Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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 Ed - perhaps some folks have been charged by stacks of reading material or rogue trees? I wouldn't want to be stomped into the dirt by a several thousand pound mass of pissed off, enraged wet phone books or dry magazines; and those DG trees, I bet those are some BMF's... Like Will says, "once you have been amongst them, there is no such thing as too big of gun" A huge stack of Sear or JC Penneys catalogs could flatten a mere human. Please be more sensitive to their fears.  This may have happened to Have a nice day  KMule Hear and forget. See and remember. Do and understand. | |||
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so, scott's weapon of mass confusion is to roll bullets along a sheet of paper, and allow the .0035" drop to create an iraqi rain of death through the center of the earth. no, wait.. allow me to restate opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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THEREBY CONTRAVENING ALL THE LAWS OF PHYSICS, COMMON-SENSE, AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH 6 BIG BORES OVER 15 YEARS. BRILLIANT!
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Sure slow bullets out penetrate faster ones, but do they damage the target as much. No. I saw test on Discovery channel about how far bullets would penetrate in water, and slower slug pentrated more, and when they shot bmg into the pool it shed its jacket and stopped in half the distance of a slower slug, but slower slug didn't hardly ripple the pool while the bmg shook the whole thing.That's the shock effect that kills game and disables big game quickly.Ed. MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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hubel458,that's the point that most are missing here the harder (faster a bullet hits the harder the resistance the medium puts on the projectile and even thou the slower bullet pentrates more it does not leave as large of a wound channel and the faster bullets penetrate more than enough...... _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Decided to try this out myself this weekend. Took my trusty 416 Rigby, loaded with solids, and a friend took his 50 Beowulf loaded with cast bullets. Anway we took a bunch of dead phone books out to the range, wet of course. I had just fired my first shot, when low and behold, a phone book, which I thought was dead, came back to life! Not just any phone book, but a Denver Yellow Pages phone book! I put three rounds into it from my Rigby and they just bounced off! It was still charging, closing the distance between us each passing second. I threw my Rigby down and grabbed the Beowulf. I could clearly see the printing on the cover, the yellow and blue coloring, with the black writing looking at me "like I owed it money" (sorry about that plagerism there). I pulled the mighty Beowulf to my shoulder, and fired the first shot...perfect shot, angled in and made it to the page listing Proctologists. The book stopped, but just for an instant, and then a full on charge! I lined up and "spined" it, (sorry, again), and it crumpled to the ground, barely 3 yards from me and my shooting buddy. As its pages fluttered once more in the dry Colorado breeze, I thanked my lucky stars I had a Beowulf! | |||
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LOL congomike!  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Congomike, you're my hero. analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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congomike, Excellent "hunting story"! That 50 Beowulf is as awesome as a 45-70 ain't it!! | |||
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I am so confused. Here I am thinking more power means better penetration. I should just sell all my guns except the Marlin in .45/70 as it is the king of all calibers when loaded to trapdoor levels | |||
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Canuck, Check out the post icon on my original post! On game performance of the 50 Beowulf with the hard cast 420 gr pill is on par with a 300 Win mag with 180/200 gr Sierras. Which ain't bad for bambis, but not my first choice for anything bigger than a 200 to 300 pounds (particularly if it can fight back). By the way, those hard casts didn't hold up in the A^2 at the velocity it spit them out at. I suspect that is why the 50 Beowulf won. Shooting 600 gr Woodleigh PPSP out of the 500 A2 at a measly 2250 fps and we couldn't stop them with ~ 3 feet of solid maple. The Beowulf HC slugs did not go through more than ~ 12" of the same maple. Didn't try the Woodleigh PPSP (protected point soft point) in any other media. | |||
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Precisely my sentiments, Watson!
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Congomike, you DA MAN!!  [QUOTE]Originally posted by congomike: Decided to try this out myself this weekend. Took my trusty 416 Rigby, loaded with solids, and a friend took his 50 Beowulf loaded with cast bullets. Anway we took a bunch of dead phone books out to the range, wet of course. I had just fired my first shot, when low and behold, a phone book, which I thought was dead, came back to life! Not just any phone book, but a Denver Yellow Pages phone book! I put three rounds into it from my Rigby and they just bounced off! It was still charging, closing the distance between us each passing second. I threw my Rigby down and grabbed the Beowulf. I could clearly see the printing on the cover, the yellow and blue coloring, with the black writing looking at me "like I owed it money" (sorry about that plagerism there). I pulled the mighty Beowulf to my shoulder, and fired the first shot...perfect shot, angled in and made it to the page listing Proctologists. The book stopped, but just for an instant, and then a full on charge! I lined up and "spined" it, (sorry, again), and it crumpled to the ground, barely 3 yards from me and my shooting buddy. As its pages fluttered once more in the dry Colorado breeze, I thanked my lucky stars I had a Beowulf! [/QUOTE] | |||
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