Finnish drama?

Cleaned both rifles and went to the range despite the rain.[URL= ]rain[/URL] Both rifles kept their point of impacts with loctite on their guard screws.The CZ 458 WM is performing really well with tighter groups and no flyers.I don'tknow what is causing the flyers in the Ruger Lott.I will adjust the sights on both rifles for bullseye for the next session.I will use the file on the CZ sight as it is shooting very high with the first sight.[URL= ]Ruger Lott[/URL] [URL= ]CZ 458WM[/URL] Bent Fossdal,would you let us know, what a Finnish drama is like?

Why aren't your groups in the middle of the target if the POI is consistent?

Tyler,I am trying to get the rifle to settle before I make the final adjustments on the sights and bring it to the middle.Getting it to the center is the easy part once everything has settled.

Well,maybe not that easy.I filed my sight down too low and set my Ruger sight too much to the right.Next time I am at the range,I'll bring my tools with me.[URL= ]file[/URL] [URL= ]4 shot458wm group with filed down sight[/URL] [URL= ]Ruger sight too much to the right( 2 shot group )[/URL] I screwed up everything,but got my rifles shooting like they were new! Solved the flyer problem on the Ruger by cleaning the bore to a lesser degree.Got to get my rifles zeroed in and let my shoulder rest before I resume shooting offhand.I got tripped playing ice hockey yesterday and nearly broke my shoulder and pelvis-couldn't sleep on my right side for a couple of days.

Reminds me of my Dad's favorite saying while doing home renos..."#!@*!&$...I've cut it three times now and its still too $%*&@!#'n short!"

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Originally posted by Canuck:
Reminds me of my Dad's favorite saying while doing home renos..."#!@*!&$...I've cut it three times now and its still too $%*&@!#'n short!"

you mean to say,too long,no?

Let me explain it in simple terms, I'm a retired nailbender. "Cut the fricken thing three times and it's still too short." I'll just have to charge them for another one.

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Canuck:
Reminds me of my Dad's favorite saying while doing home renos..."#!@*!&$...I've cut it three times now and its still too $%*&@!#'n short!"

you mean to say,too long,no?

Shootaway,

This tells us ALL we need to know....

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Canuck:
Reminds me of my Dad's favorite saying while doing home renos..."#!@*!&$...I've cut it three times now and its still too $%*&@!#'n short!"

you mean to say,too long,no?

Its supposed to be funny.

I still don't get it.Did he CUT THE CHEESE?

Shootaway, do they build houses in your area with cheese?

I drove to the hockey arena for the last game of the season,but got there too late.I then thought that I still had some time left to go to the range and use the file on my CZ 300yd sight and make that my 100 yd sight.I had used the red loctite on it and waited a few days before it set and the sight was solid as a rock.Now,I had a beautiful picture to describe all of this by deleted it accidently because of some fatigue and carelessness.I shall describe instead.I fired one shot from the CZ 458WM and it was not on the target.I then took out the file and got to work.The second shot hit the paper target on the very top of the sheet.After three or four triess with the file,the shots placed perfectly beneath one another,with the last shot placing a right next to the bullseye.I used a small straight file for this and found it much better than the vtriangular file.The next time I am at the range,I will shoot a nice group around the bullseye.BTW,I also brought my Ruger Lott with me and shot it after loctiting the rear sight and was also happy with the results.The Ruger needs a round or two to settle.The CZ does not.Go figure! Here are two pictures.The first one shows the CZ sight after the first attempt at filing the v300yd sight.The second pic shows the Ruger Lott with the two foulers and flyers at 100 yds.It was a good day at the range.[URL= ]cz 300yd sight[/URL] [URL= ]Ruger with flyers/foulers[/URL] I LOVE shooting my big bores! LOVE will SAVE THE DAY!

Am I missing something here or what? Why would you need a 300 yd sight on a 458 Lott? I don't believe that I would want to shoot at any creature beyond 150 yds and that would be streching it for the Lott. I am of the ethic that if I can't get any closer than 300 yds for the lott, I have no business shooting. Work a bit harder and get closer to your querry.

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Originally posted by olcrip:
Am I missing something here or what?....

Yeah, I think you are...

I think that's why he didn't mind filing it down to a 100 yard sight.

The rifle comes with 100, 200, and 300 flip up leafs, regardless of caliber.

He over-filed the real 100 yard sight but he has the (unnecessary) 300 yard site as a back up.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I don'tknow what is causing the flyers in the Ruger Lott.

It is called a flinch.

OR

Possibly you've shot the barrel out on that one too. You never know what might happen up there in Canada.......

Hre are some of the A-frame bullets I recovered in the sand pile at 100yds,from the Ruger Lott.It looks like the rifle shoots them well.[URL= ]500gr a-frames[/URL] I had run out of a-frames and loaded my 500gr Woodleigh RN welcores in both my rifles and got some surprising results.The Ruger continued to shoot to the same point of impact with no difference in accuracy whereas the CZ could not get the shots on the target,with it spraying bullets sometimes two feet apart.I put some a-frames I had left,back in the CZ and accuracy and point of impact returned to normal.The CZ cannot shoot the 500gr Woodleigh weldcore and has the same difficulty with the FMJ's.This may be caused by a 6 land barrel compared to the 8 land Ruger.I was eager to shoot a nice group in the center of the bullseye with the CZ but have to wait until I get more a-frames.

LOL you filed the 300 yard sight to shot dead on at 100?

I own the CZ American Safari 458 Lott and I can shoot it free handed with out any pain. It fits
me very well into my shoulder.

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Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
LOL you filed the 300 yard sight to shot dead on at 100?

Yes Tyler. I also discovered that I don't want a 6 groove barrel.

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Originally posted by jro45:
I own the CZ American Safari 458 Lott and I can shoot it free handed with out any pain. It fits
me very well into my shoulder.

With the CZ lott you'll probably need to stick to a-frames and Woodleigh spitzers(6 groove).You need to rebarrel with an 8 groove for total satisfaction.

Why do extra grooves give you extra satisfaction Shootaway?

No offense Shootaway but your max range offhand is more like 50 yrds( maybe less) than 100yrds. Pretty piss poor shooting actually! Just trying tio help in reality. Lets see 5 fast shots OFFHAND at 50 yrds on a paper plate..-Rob

I use A-Square solids and Woodleigh spitzers and or Hornady sp

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by jro45:
I own the CZ American Safari 458 Lott and I can shoot it free handed with out any pain. It fits
me very well into my shoulder.

With the CZ lott you'll probably need to stick to a-frames and Woodleigh spitzers(6 groove).You need to rebarrel with an 8 groove for total satisfaction.

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
No offense Shootaway but your max range offhand is more like 50 yrds( maybe less) than 100yrds. Pretty piss poor shooting actually! Just trying tio help in reality. Lets see 5 fast shots OFFHAND at 50 yrds on a paper plate..-Rob

Well, I am going to paractice a lot more and get it to your standard,Robgunbuilder.

Just had a couple of strange guys stop by.[URL= ]baby porcupine wanted to use the toilets[/URL]

being new to the forum, I have to ask: what the heck is going on here?? This has been amazing to follow along..

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Originally posted by richlab:
being new to the forum, I have to ask: what the heck is going on here?? This has been amazing to follow along..

I've learned a lot from these forums over the years. One of those bits of wisdom is that you have to take anything you see on the Internet with a grain of salt. (and some things with a shot of tequila)

But sit back and remember that if you feel like you're taking it all too seriously.

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Originally posted by richlab:
being new to the forum, I have to ask: what the heck is going on here?? This has been amazing to follow along..

Welcome to the board. There is tons of very good information to be gleaned from sifting through these pages, once you have been around, you will learn/see who the "real deal" guys are, and who the clowns are.......if I were you, I wouldnt put alot of faith in learning alot from this thread

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Originally posted by richlab:
being new to the forum, I have to ask: what the heck is going on here?? This has been amazing to follow along..

Its a tale of a how one should not conduct themselves, and an expose' of idiotic supositions.

I think we are about to read about the merits of the Microgroove barrel in DGR applications

and the effects of the rate of twit!

" Drums keep pounding rythem to my brain, and the beat goes on. "

Some truly amazing stuff here...

Shootaway- They should be YOUR standards. Shoot at 50 yrds till you get better.-Rob

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Just had a couple of strange guys stop by.[URL= ]baby porcupine wanted to use the toilets[/URL]

Isn't that a hedgehog? Or have I missed the joke?

Just looked hedgehog up in wikipedia and it seems that you are right.Is it a domesticated hedghog? Did someone drop their pets off? I have moved it to a safe place and called an SPCA like center.They said they would get back to me.Poor thing.

Just reach down there and give it a great big hug.

Do you think rifle shooting is an easy thing and you have it all figured out???? I know what I know and know that there is much more to know! Got back from the range again today with more issues.

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Got back from the range again today with more issues.

Really?