The Ruger still shoots fine.I moved my rear sight too much to the left and didn't have a screw driver with me to correct.My CZ started to shoot poorly all of a sudden.I checked the rifle through and all seems ok,except that I think that the barrel is going.Too bad.Just when I had figured everything out and had filed down my sight for bullseye.So,the number of lands may not have been the issue and the CZ should have shot the Woodleigh weldcores fine.

How many thousand rounds did you put thru that CZ to get the sights filed just right?

Shootaway- Sure sounds like your barrel went just as you got finished wrecking your sights. How about resurecting it with David Tubbs FINAL FINISH! YOU can bring it back from the dead. Just follow Davids directions. You must also smear the crown of the barrel with sacred Chicken blood and say the magic words. Klatu Nicto Verada, three times . Presto! Your bore will again be perfect and smell good too! Please post pics of the sacred ritual and photos of your new clover leaf targets at 200yrds.-Rob

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Shootaway- Sure sounds like your barrel went just as you got finished wrecking your sights. How about resurecting it with David Tubbs FINAL FINISH! YOU can bring it back from the dead. Just follow Davids directions. You must also smear the crown of the barrel with sacred Chicken blood and say the magic words. Klatu Nicto Verada, three times . Presto! Your bore will again be perfect and smell good too!-Rob

Or, have your doctor evaluate your mental condition. It may be time to increase the dose of your medicines.

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
My Mission is to Rid the world of "BOZO'S", ONE at a TIME

Rob when & how do you start this mission?

ShootTHATaway, how you could you possibly think your bbl is gone/going? Like your not really serious are you?

I likely have 40X as many rounds through my 7mmSTW @ 3500+fps, and all is fine......only diff is, I never fugged up any sights on it!

Must be fascinating in your world!

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Robgunbuilder,
Your dating yourself with "Klatu Nickto Verada." That goes back to the mid 50s. I thought I was the only old goat on this forum!

Shootaway, maybe you should try scrubbing your shot out barrel with some copper remover. My shooting buddy Beetle Juice sold me an Eddystone dirt cheap because he wouldn't listen. He would run a dry patch thru the bore every so often and that was clean. It stopped shooting good groups like it used to. I soaked it in bore solvent over night and it ran like a fireplace chiminy the next day. It got cleaned up and started shooting again. I really think Beetle Juice just needed an excuse to buy a new gun.

Invest some time and energy into polishing up your copper inbedded bore.

I just got back from the range with good results.I''ve got the Ruger Lott firing at bullseye and set-up so that it will stay that way.It's nice to have figured out how to put an end to all it's accuracy issues.It's not shooting groups as small as it did the the first days I got it but after near 700rds it still shoots good.The first pic shows a 7 shot group with a frames and the second shows a 5 shot group with the Woodleigh weldcore(two shots furthest to the right were shot on another day).[URL= ]aframes[/URL] [URL= ]Woodleigh weldcore[/URL] Now for some offhand shooting.

Recycling paper eh?
Green conscious?
What about all that carbon from your gas emissions?
As usual, no sense can be made of this latest post from shootawry.

Well obviously the moron said the sacred words backwards or wrong or backwards and wrong. The results speak for themselves. Jeesh- cant even follow directions!
I personally believe Shootaway is a incipient Darwin award winner. Just give him time and encouragement!-Rob

Has shootaway ever mentioned bore cleaning? I can't imagine burning up a barrel at 2100 FPS in just 500 rds. Is this person rolling his bullets in valve grinding compound?



They are coming to get him or to bring him his sign.

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Originally posted by olcrip:
Has shootaway ever mentioned bore cleaning? I can't imagine burning up a barrel at 2100 FPS in just 500 rds. Is this person rolling his bullets in valve grinding compound?



They are coming to get him or to bring him his sign.

He has said that bigbores tend to wear their barrels out quickly.

I guess he has never heard of the elephant cullers who fired thousands and thousands of rounds through 458s without rebarreling.

Shootaway would probably burn out a barrel on a 204 Ruger in about 250 to 300 rounds. You know they just don't make them like the used to. I sure hope I get a bunch more out of my Lott when I finish it. God bless the big bores!

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Robgunbuilder,
Your dating yourself with "Klatu Nickto Verada." That goes back to the mid 50s. I thought I was the only old goat on this forum!

I am constantly in awe of what you can find on the intraweb...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaxSxEqKtA

While I do in fact remember the original Sci Fi movie. I saw it when I was 6. There is the incredibly funny " Army of Darkness" flick which much more closely matches the Shootaway saga! Highjacking this thread is almost a moral imperative.-Rob

A nice group I shot today with the Ruger and the 500gr Woodleigh weldcore bullets.The Ruger is a good big bore rifle.[URL= ]100yds[/URL] I am looking forward to posting some fresh,new vids after I do some practising.I'll create another thread to post them in,instead of dragging this old one around.I was feeling really tired during the past two weeks and had difficulty focusing on the target while at the range and during dry fire.When I started to get my energy back after some rest,I was able to focus and see my target clearer giving better results.

Today, I saw an 80+ year old, 5'1, might weigh 110# LADY shoot better groups than that, off hand, under timer, with a 458 lott.

a GREAT grandmother, shot a 38, out of a possible 40, . your GROUP is larger than her entire TARGET

Face it, flinchy, AR is a village, and guess which role you play

Shootaway,

This is a photo of a 458 win mag 74 grains of H335 and 500 grain Hornady solids. PF Win 70 50 yards, standing using a Polaris Ranger roll bar for support(not a rest). The left flyer was me, new it as soon as I shot. Maybe you should buy a PF Winchester.

BigB

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Today, I saw an 80+ year old, 5'1, might weigh 110# LADY shoot better groups than that, off hand, under timer, with a 458 lott.

a GREAT grandmother, shot a 38, out of a possible 40, . your GROUP is larger than her entire TARGET

Damn good lookin' too!

BigB,that is a really good group.Did you shoot it with a scope? I thought I was good until I saw your group.I think I'll call the gunstore first thing monday morning and ask for a Win PF.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Today, I saw an 80+ year old, 5'1, might weigh 110# LADY shoot better groups than that, off hand, under timer, with a 458 lott.

a GREAT grandmother, shot a 38, out of a possible 40, . your GROUP is larger than her entire TARGET

Face it, flinchy, AR is a village, and guess which role you play

Are you sure the old hag was shooting full loads? AR a village?? am I a preacher? teacher?

Shootaway,

Scope was Leupold Vari X II 1X4 set at 2. Rest of the day I shot at cord wood standing on end and pop bottles filled with water. Managed 32 shots before I thought I should quit.

First time I shot the gun, but a load I used to use in my Ruger #1. But I did have Harry Mcgowen go thru it and bed it, adjust the trigger, lengthen the pull and put a Decellerator on it.

BigB

Here are a couple of groups shot when the bore was newer. [URL= ]a year ago[/URL] [URL= ]last group shot before safari[/URL] Both groups were shot at 100yds with open sights. With all the shooting I did this year, I would probably shoot a one hole group given a really good bore(and closer to the bullseye).

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Originally posted by BigB:
Shootaway,

Scope was Leupold Vari X II 1X4 set at 2. Rest of the day I shot at cord wood standing on end and pop bottles filled with water. Managed 32 shots before I thought I should quit.

First time I shot the gun, but a load I used to use in my Ruger #1. But I did have Harry Mcgowen go thru it and bed it, adjust the trigger, lengthen the pull and put a Decellerator on it.

BigB

BigB,is that a max or near max load?

Gee- And all this time I thought you were supposed to hit the center of the target!
The role is Village IDIOT, idiot!-Rob

Shootaway,

The Hornady manual lists 76.3 of H335 as max.

BigB

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Originally posted by BigB:
Shootaway,

The Hornady manual lists 76.3 of H335 as max.

BigB

So,your under max on a 458.That makes shooting a lot easier.

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Originally posted by BigB:
Shootaway,

The Hornady manual lists 76.3 of H335 as max.

BigB

So,your under max on a 458.That makes shooting a lot easier.

So, +/- 2 grains, in a (I'm guessing a lighter gun) is easier?

BigB, I never took the time to look back through this fascinaing thread, but I think your a new poster to it......theres no amount of convicing this clown that someone could be better, or that his gun isnt to blame

Stay tuned

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\Are you sure the old hag was shooting full loads? AR a village?? am I a preacher? teacher?

You are out of line, son.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
\Are you sure the old hag was shooting full loads? AR a village?? am I a preacher? teacher?

You are out of line, son.

Yup. Be glad you're out of pitch-fork range!

I didn't read all the posts. I have owned and loaded for 2 458Win mag rifles in the past. Ruger M77 and #1 Tropical. Both were not a problem from the bench. After shooting a 458 Lott and a 550 Magnum at the Shoot and Hoot, I gotta say shooting any 458Win mag offhand would be childsplay. I would infact venture to say my 45-70 handloads in a #1 were worse than any 458Win I have ever fired. I was able to get(across a chrony) 2210fps on a Hrndy 350gr round nose and an honest 1825fps with 500gr fmj solid. Was I pressin my luck...maybe. I am still here to tell the tale. I shot 30 rounds of the 350gr one afternoon and each round hit the intended target. That was back when I was young and dumb and bruised for 10 days. I'll stick to my .375 for now.

However, I just picked up a Savage210F and have been curiously considering a 12gaFH.

Andy B

I find shooting off the bench to be alot easier than shooting offhand-especially when I put a sand-bag between the stock and my shoulder.I've found that shooting a 500gr bullet from the 458wm at 50fps less than max, makes it much easier to shoot offhand,but I prefer to shoot full loads instead.A strong guy who knows what he is doing will shoot the rifle much better than a weaker guy who knows what he is doing and find it much more plesasant too.I never found it easy or pleasant to shoot a magazine full of rounds offhand from a 458wm or the lott.

In my #1 Tropical I settled on a load that produced 1875fps with 510s. I am gonna have to see if I can find the data. I remember it being fairly pleasant to shoot and thought nothing of shooting a box in an afternoon. My #1 also had a merc tube that helped. I don't even remember who I sold it to, but I have a lot of friends that fondly recall shootin it.

Andy B

Shootaway strength doesn't have anything to do with it unless you're shooting a rifle that kicks so hard you have to be the Hulk to hold onto it.

I'd venture to say that I would have no problem with a 458 Win Mag or Lott considering my 45-120 is becoming much easier for me to control and it is doing 458 Lott velocities with a bad stock design and under 9 lbs.

I would like to see some video of everyone shooting their big bores-especially the ones that say they have no problems with it.It's not that I don't believe them,but it would be nice to watch them shoot.I can't believe that no one brought a video camera to the big bore shoot in Texas.

Shootaway, it's a case of "mind over matter." If you don't mind it don't matter. You just have to tell yourself that you want this more than it is going to sting. Have you ever tried to shoot the big bore with ear muffs and ear plugs? What a tremendous difference it makes in percieved recoil. Try it sometime. If you want it you will conqour it!!!!!!!!

Now this is a big bore that will definitely hurt your shoulder, all smaller don't matter, keep thinking that and soon it won't hurt.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I would like to see some video of everyone shooting their big bores-especially the ones that say they have no problems with it.It's not that I don't believe them,but it would be nice to watch them shoot.I can't believe that no one brought a video camera to the big bore shoot in Texas.

I just emailed some big bore videos to Jeffeosso hoping that he can post them. I don't know how to get them on here. If he can get them posted or linked to then shootaway will see what it's like to shoot a REAL BIG BORE rifle. It should be interesting. Show time, I hope.

Real big bore.

I was also asked to post a video for someone and will do so as soon as I get it.I don't know if it is possible to email a video.I tried that once and it didn't work.One might need to send a DVD??

OC,
I didn't get the videos.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I was also asked to post a video for someone and will do so as soon as I get it.I don't know if it is possible to email a video.I tried that once and it didn't work.One might need to send a DVD??

Didn't I see you post a video last night, something about a Kudu? Where'd that go?