No Tyler,but I still believe they are one ,if not the most acurate.

Here is some proof for you.In this Vid,Alan stops the landcruiser and wants to see if I can shoot.It is the first morning of my first hunt in africa.The first shot is a sighter and fouler and the second is in the bullseye,offhand near 80yds.]THE Moment of Truth

BTW, I do use a pellet rifle for trigger/breathing/and target practice.. and for just fun, sitting out back and shooting golf balls at 30+ yards

shoo practicing for his hunt

rob spending some quality time with shoo

flinchie
Note the outstanding quality construction of the cam mount

Because you can hit something offhand makes it an accurate barrel? If the first shot was a sighter how could you tell it was dead on by shooting the the right?

I know, he's a charity case and we keep feeding him. Why does he have to prove something? His taxi is waiting for him.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
BTW, I do use a pellet rifle for trigger/breathing/and target practice.. and for just fun, sitting out back and shooting golf balls at 30+ yards

shoo practicing for his hunt

rob spending some quality time with shoo

flinchie
Note the outstanding quality construction of the cam mount

so did I 30 yrs ago

You know, George, you skate so you can probably ski as well. You like to shoot offhand. You really ought to get a biathlon routine going. Big bore biathlon. The heck with 22's.


Hell, could land you on a Canadian olympic team some day.

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Originally posted by Jim Manion:
You know, George, you skate so you can probably ski as well. You like to shoot offhand. You really ought to get a biathlon routine going. Big bore biathlon. The heck with 22's.


Hell, could land you on a Canadian olympic team some day.

I don't know how to ski.

So what is your view of Ruger barrels vs. the likes of Hart, Lilja, Krieger, Broughton, Rock Creek, Shilen, etc.?

I think that Ruger barrels are better.I think they make their own hammer-forged barrels.One thing I noticed is that they stay smooth for very long.My Krieger and Douglas barrels did not stay as smooth for as long.This might be because I had them in chamberings that were harder on the throat and rifling.All I know for sure is that both bores in my Ruger barrels feel smoother than any I've used before.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I think that Ruger barrels are better.I....My Krieger and Douglas barrels did not stay as smooth for as long..

wow, man, just wow...
while other kids were learning to ski, in CANADA ..

George was learning to be a jedi ninja ballerina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHA-_Bxisoc

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Originally posted by shootaway:
All I know for sure is that both bores in my Ruger barrels feel smoother than any I've used before.

Dare we ask just what part of you anatomy you are using to "feel" the bores?

On second thought, I don't want to know.

shootaway,

In my experience Ruger barrels suck! They aren't smooth and they aren't accurate. Sorry if you don't like those statements, but as I said this has been my rather limited experience. Having said that, it has also been my experience that factory barrels in general SUCK!

After going through this whole thread I just have to say, Whats wrong with that CZ? In two vids it just won't feed. Time for a new gun. Glad to see you took the Ruger to Africa. I look forward to more vids as this has been humorous.

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Originally posted by ScottS:
shootaway,

In my experience Ruger barrels suck! They aren't smooth and they aren't accurate. Sorry if you don't like those statements, but as I said this has been my rather limited experience. Having said that, it has also been my experience that factory barrels in general SUCK!

The POSeur does not know shit from Shinola, especially about Ruger barrels.
And, he thinks that he himself is a Piece Of Shinola.

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Originally posted by ScottS:
shootaway,

In my experience Ruger barrels suck! They aren't smooth and they aren't accurate. Sorry if you don't like those statements, but as I said this has been my rather limited experience. Having said that, it has also been my experience that factory barrels in general SUCK!

Check out my Zim video in the african forum and see how accurate Ruger barrels are.

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Originally posted by PoppaW:
After going through this whole thread I just have to say, Whats wrong with that CZ? In two vids it just won't feed. Time for a new gun. Glad to see you took the Ruger to Africa. I look forward to more vids as this has been humorous.

Just picked up a small supply of Hornady 500gr Interlock bullets at a good price.So,you should see some more video in the coming week.The CZ does not feed anything but round nose bullets.I don't want to waste my supply of Woodleigh FMJ just for offhand practice sessions.You will not see this happen with my Hornadys.You will see it feed like SLICK LIGHTENING.I just got back from the range minutes ago but was shooting my 308 palma rifle.I thought I would work on my hold.I will be going to do some ice skating in the next hour at the local indoor arena.I want to work on my skating so I can play hockey in a garage league.

I took my CZ 458 Lott out yesterday with nothing but my coat and on the bench it didn't hurt me at all. I was shooting the 458 Win 500gr
bullets. The fps was 2108.

Here are some lott rds I loaded today with the 500gr interlock bullets.[URL= ]500 grainers[/URL]

shootaway- What loads are you trying? Are the ones you show all loaded the same?

All my Lott rds are loaded with H4895.Yes they are all loaded the same.

Have you shot those bullets before with the 4895 load you have those loaded with? In my rifle it shoots all bullets pretty close to the same impact point except for the Hornady's. Makes practice a little more expensive not being able to use cheap bullets.

I am going to see where they shoot,then adjust my sights.Everything I shot out of my Ruger Lott with this powder has been super accurate.I've shot TSX's,Woodleighs(both FMJ and PSP,and A-frames)I got them on special.I don't want to shoot anything but 500gr hunting bullets.Besides, I've tried to buy other less expensive ones but no one carries them.I enjoy shooting 500gr bullets from my 458WM and Lott and I am willing to pay the price.It's not that bad because my arm and shoulder can't stand to shoot that many

I would like to make a correction on the subject of triggers.In the past I reffered to the trigger on my CZ 458WM as being a Timney.I was discussing my rifle project today with the gunmaker and it just so happens that it is NOT a Timney but another brand that has not been discussed much here.My appologies.The trigger on my custom CZ lott will be a Timney.

Some more video of me shooting my rifles offhand at 100yds.[IMG]]Ruger Lott.... [IMG]]CZ 458WM...[IMG]]Ruger Lott

Look at your own vids. You face is coming off the stock on recoil, your letting your right arm drop and your not leaning into the gun properly. Cant tell how bad the flinch is from the camera angle either. Its shooten school time shootaway! Just some good advice. Youll get away with that on a Lott. On a 500a2 you'll loosen some teeth!-Rob

Here is a three shot 200yd group I shot with the Ruger this afternoon.I really like this rifle.I was dead on at 100yds with my first sight up and flipped up the second for a try at 200yds.This group made my day.[URL= ]200yd group/H4895/Hornady 500gr RN[/URL] Tightening down my guard screws and sights with my socket wrench took my rifle to a higher functioning level.

The nice thing about shootaway is that the has not blinked at or bit on any of the sarcastic or cynical comments that have been posted....

He is a really nice guy, no?

God Bless

Thats because his HELMET is blocking all reception.

Can't see the whole target but that is pretty good shooting with iron sights at 200 yards.

Thanks Pegleg.I took me about five to ten minutes to shoot the group.The most difficult part was trying to see the target long enough without out it fading or seeing it twice.I had to stop and try to catch my breath more than once before this would happen.I had this same problem when I started shooting at 100 before my eye was trained and things became easier.I just ordered a fixed tip screwdriver from Brownells.The one that could be used with a key wrench.I am going to try and get my CZ screws tighter.I am beginning to think that the wood CZ uses is not hard enough to properly bed the action for accurate big bore shooting.The ruger wood seems really hard.Another thing that worries me about the CZ is the way the forearm recoil lur screw pulls the barrel right down on the forearm stock.There seems to be some free space between the barrel and the stock on the Ruger.

I made a quick trip to the range today to fire my big bores and see how they are shooting after I put loctite on both their guard screws and barrel lug screws.It seems as if this worked to keep groups tight and point of impact from changing,but I'll see how long this will last.Here is a group shot with the CZ 458wm at 100yds and a 4 shot group with the Lott at 200yds.I was please with the results.I had a little trouuble in seeing the 200yd target and my group was a little to the right.[URL= ]CZ/100yds/aframe[/URL][URL= ]Ruger Lott 200yds/aframe[/URL]I took my Ruger apart last week and found the webbing in front of the trigger guard cracked ,right down the middle.The CZ stock is doing great.I shot a similar 5 shot group,with the Ruger as I did with the CZ with the POI in the center of the target but the picture didn't record.Here is a three shot group with the Ruger,with the first sight up then another group with the second sight up.[URL= ]RugerLott/100yds/aframe/100 and 200yd sights[/URL]

Why has this video been posted?
Why did George re-post from his cache?
Why has anybody replied?
Why did I read all this?
Why am I posting?
Why?

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
Why has this video been posted?
Why did George re-post from his cache?
Why has anybody replied?
Why did I read all this?
Why am I posting?
Why?

Hey LionHunter, is that a free-roaming lion you shot?What did you shoot it with and where?

I was back at the range again today to see how my rifles were shooting after using loctite on there screws.Using loctite seems to be a good idea.The point of impact on both rifles remained the same.I also got in some offhand practice.My offhand shots were off a little to the right of my target, as you can see in both these vids and photos.I noticed my 200yd 308 group was much more to the right also.It may be that my style is becoming adapted to the recoil of the big bores.I struggled with some shots because the cold wind was causing tears in my eye and I could not see the 100yd target clear enough-this delayed the shot.[URL= ]cz 100 yds group[/URL][URL= ]100yd offhand target[/URL] It seems that after a really good cleaning,a shot or two is required settle the bore using molly-coated bullets.]Lott100yds-1 ] lott100yd-2

About as interesting as watching Barack Obama roll gutter balls.
Very "special."

RIP,I am looking forward to your next bullet test.I hope you test a soft like an a-frame versus a monometal on a drum full of gelatin.

I was back at the range today and my objective was to see why I was getting large groups and flyers from my Ruger Lott.The principles that I've learned from the past shooting medium bores,didn't all seem to apply to big bores.For example,I never needed to use loctite in my 300wins or 308 to keep the point of impact from shifting.For a while know,my CZ 458wm has kept its same point of impact.The Ruger has also improved slightly since I used loctite.So,I started the session byn firing a group with The Ruger from a clean barrel and I got the same POI shift,flyers and large groups.Looking at the target,I saw that the rifle would kinda group to the left and then to the right with a flyer here and there.I thought it is either the cracked part of the stock or the sights that are moving.A shift in the groups indicates a sight problem.I checked my sight screw to see if it had loostened after I used the loctite.I could not turn it with a normal screwdriver,but when I tapped the sights,repeatedly with the plastic handle of my screwdriver,the sights moved to the left and right.I knew I had found my problem.I tightened the screw down really tight again and again with another driver until the sights would no longer move when I tapped them.I then shot a group and saw that I had solve my problem.The first pic shows the first groups fired.Three holes are not in the pic but wher next to the hole on the top right of the target.The secon pic shows the group fired after I made sure that the sight would not move.IMO,the group would have been smaller if I stopped gto clean.I was glad to see,that I could go so many rounds without cleaning before the shots started to drop and reall;y spread out.What I can advise others who are shooting iron sights is to tap them on the side continuosly, with the plastic handle of a screwdriver and make sure the sight does not move. [URL= ]before[/URL] [URL= ]after[/URL]

I watched it in slow motion, that was even better. Like a Finnish drama.