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Okay, here is the question of the day. Your good friend is going to Africa to hunt buffalo and lion. He asks you go go along as a guest and asks you to bring a back up rifle. You only have two guns. A Chapuis 9.3X74 double and a Marlin stainless guide gun. The Chapuis is loaded with 286 Woodleighs, softs and solids. The Marlin is loaded with 400 grain Barnes Buster bullets. Which would you take? No substitutions please. Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | ||
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The double of course......Africa and all that. DRSS | |||
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Whichever one is heavier, so you can throw it at ol MBOGO(to confuse him) and give you guys time to run away. Neither is what I'd want as a back-up gun personally.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Remember Dave, you don't have to run faster than the Cape buffalo, just faster than your good friend. Tough one but I think I'd go with the Guide Gun - I like .458 caliber holes in DG better than .366. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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If I'm just along for the ride and perhaps to shoot a bait animal or two, I'd take the 9.3x74. If I'm being asked to act as backup in case his buffalo or lion charge, I'd buy a proper rifle even if I had to sell the other two. George | |||
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I'd stay home! Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Is this "back up rifle" as in a spare rifle or back up in case of a charge. For the former I'd take the Chapuis and the Marlin for the latter. | |||
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The Guide Gun? What velocity? The 9,3x74R = 375 H&H +/-. I am a double fan, so Boom-Boom! I guess. Rich I would rather take my Searcy 470 NE though | |||
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Dave, is the Blaser S2 back in the shop again??? Hey, I'm putting my 577 T-Rex up on the block....that'll do the trick! | |||
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9.3 works just fine Good Hunting | |||
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I'm interested in everyones opion is on this one because I'm completely ignorant on African game. But my knee jerk answer would have been the Guide Gun. Cheers, John Give me COFFEE and nobody gets hurt | |||
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So you can back him up. As much as the heart says the 9.3 Double, I would go the guide gun being 458 cal and that you are backing up. The other question is - which do you shoot better. Always a consideration. . | |||
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I'm thinking the back-up gun is in case the primary falters for some reason. I would probably take the 9.3. But definitely take the one that you can shoot best. | |||
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I would recommend the 9,3x74R. Research my previous posts. Mine has performed very well in Zimbabwe, taking all manner of game ncluding giraffe, cape buff and an elephant at 5 yards. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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not preferred of all rifles, just of these rifles opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Can the bullets be substituted? Whatever you pick may I suggest you read if you have not the terminal bullet performance thread. Maybe load the BBW #13 non cons backed up with a solid. Bullet choice over cart and diameter. Most of all enjoy the hunt and good luck! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I've got two .45-70 Guide guns and I've got a couple 9.3x62. With the .45-70 think "big handgun cartridge" with the 9,3 think "95% of a .375H&H". My vote would be for the 9,3. | |||
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The double in 9.3 ! "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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I'm afraid I concur with the fella above who said "neither". A "backup" isn't normally required to shoot, even at DG, unless things have already gone wrong. That is no time for a "somewhat" adequate rifle. For African DG, I consider both the 9.3 x62 and the 9.3x74R marginal when things are squeeky tight. And I consider the .45-70 even more so. I'd either get a fully adequate rifle for wounded DG, or forget being a backup. A travelling companion, yes, a back-up, no. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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This guns too small. Friend make suicide with buff. | |||
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