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Which would you take?
28 June 2011, 20:46
Dave BushWhich would you take?
Okay, here is the question of the day.
Your good friend is going to Africa to hunt buffalo and lion. He asks you go go along as a guest and asks you to bring a back up rifle. You only have two guns. A Chapuis 9.3X74 double and a Marlin stainless guide gun. The Chapuis is loaded with 286 Woodleighs, softs and solids. The Marlin is loaded with 400 grain Barnes Buster bullets. Which would you take? No substitutions please.
Dave
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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE
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28 June 2011, 20:51
degoinsThe double of course......Africa and all that.
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28 June 2011, 20:57
RobgunbuilderWhichever one is heavier, so you can throw it at ol MBOGO(to confuse him) and give you guys time to run away. Neither is what I'd want as a back-up gun personally.-Rob
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28 June 2011, 21:15
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Whichever one is heavier, so you can throw it at ol MBOGO(to confuse him) and give you guys time to run away. Neither is what I'd want as a back-up gun personally.-Rob
Remember Dave, you don't have to run faster than the Cape buffalo, just faster than your good friend.
Tough one but I think I'd go with the Guide Gun - I like .458 caliber holes in DG better than .366.
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28 June 2011, 22:01
GeorgeSIf I'm just along for the ride and perhaps to shoot a bait animal or two, I'd take the 9.3x74.
If I'm being asked to act as backup in case his buffalo or lion charge, I'd buy a proper rifle even if I had to sell the other two.
George
28 June 2011, 22:18
Michael RobinsonI'd stay home!

Mike
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28 June 2011, 22:41
7kongoniIs this "back up rifle" as in a spare rifle or back up in case of a charge. For the former I'd take the Chapuis and the Marlin for the latter.
28 June 2011, 22:47
Idaho SharpshooterThe Guide Gun? What velocity?
The 9,3x74R = 375 H&H +/-.
I am a double fan, so Boom-Boom! I guess.
Rich
I would rather take my Searcy 470 NE though
Dave, is the Blaser S2 back in the shop again??? Hey, I'm putting my 577 T-Rex up on the block....that'll do the trick!
28 June 2011, 23:56
freischuetz9.3 works just fine

Good Hunting
29 June 2011, 00:06
PhatmanI'm interested in everyones opion is on this one because I'm completely ignorant on African game.
But my knee jerk answer would have been the Guide Gun.
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quote:
and asks you to bring a back up rifle.
So you can back him up.
As much as the heart says the 9.3 Double, I would go the guide gun
being 458 cal and that you are backing up.
The other question is - which do you shoot better. Always a consideration.
.
29 June 2011, 07:11
bradking1I'm thinking the back-up gun is in case the primary falters for some reason. I would probably take the 9.3. But definitely take the one that you can shoot best.
29 June 2011, 07:25
N E 450 No2I would recommend the 9,3x74R.
Research my previous posts. Mine has performed very well in Zimbabwe, taking all manner of game ncluding giraffe, cape buff and an elephant at 5 yards.
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29 June 2011, 08:14
jeffeossoquote:
Chapuis 9.3X74
not preferred of all rifles, just of these rifles
29 June 2011, 10:53
buckeyeshooter9.3
29 June 2011, 11:41
boom stickCan the bullets be substituted? Whatever you pick may I suggest you read if you have not the terminal bullet performance thread. Maybe load the BBW #13 non cons backed up with a solid. Bullet choice over cart and diameter. Most of all enjoy the hunt and good luck!
29 June 2011, 17:42
Rick RI've got two .45-70 Guide guns and I've got a couple 9.3x62. With the .45-70 think "big handgun cartridge" with the 9,3 think "95% of a .375H&H".
My vote would be for the 9,3.

29 June 2011, 20:49
JCS271The double in 9.3 !
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29 June 2011, 22:50
JabaliHunterquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Chapuis 9.3X74
not preferred of all rifles, just of these rifles
+1

30 June 2011, 08:15
Alberta CanuckI'm afraid I concur with the fella above who said "neither".
A "backup" isn't normally required to shoot, even at DG, unless things have already gone wrong. That is no time for a "somewhat" adequate rifle. For African DG, I consider both the 9.3 x62 and the 9.3x74R marginal when things are squeeky tight. And I consider the .45-70 even more so. I'd either get a fully adequate rifle for wounded DG, or forget being a backup. A travelling companion, yes, a back-up, no.
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30 June 2011, 08:22
BUFFOOLIOquote:
A Chapuis 9.3X74 double and a Marlin stainless guide gun.
This guns too small. Friend make suicide with buff.