Douchebag-
I don't care that you got your feelings hurt, nor anybody elses. You bitch like you're trying to return something at wal-mart, the difference is I am not selling anything. Don't like what I say? Move on. After 1856 posts I would think that you'd have that figured out...wait..maybe that is why you have those posts! The best thing to do with trolls like you is to ignore.. I think I do "get it".

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Scottyboy
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Posted 28 January 2010 13:56 Hide Post
It too bad Eric, that each and everytime you post your pics of your hunts in Japan on this board, that this shit has to happen.. EVERYTIME and EVERY YEAR it seems!! And it always seems to be you getting the 5th degree on what a white boy is doing hunting where he "shouldn't" be..

Keep the pics coming!! Some of us DO enjoy them, in addition to the African threads, AK threads, gun threads, etc..

Yes Scotty, it's pretty weird. But it seems that is what this place has dissolved to. Funny thing, it's the Americans who have the oddest personalities. The corncob crew make it to where it's not really worth the hassle. Maybe it's all the people laid off with nothing else to do, I dunno, but it really is interesting to observe. I'll be out in the morning again.

Anyway, here's a couple pics of deer I passed on lately.

Hokk,
Read your responses on the last page and then tell me who the douchbag is.

Your smug attitude, name calling, etc shows everyone here what a total asshole you must be. Everyone hates me, everytime I post people hate me, Americans hate me...ever think it might be you? What country are YOU from? You have NO info on your profile.

Maybe you have something stuck up your ass, and it isn't a corn-cob.

What about Bow hunting? Can we do that in Japan? For deer I mean...not dolphins or whales or wives....

Awesome sika stags !!!! No idea there was any hunting in Japan. Didn't even realise there was enough non populated land to hold deer. Thanks for the post. I hope to hunt sika in NZ this year.

Hokkaido,

Thanks for the mature reply. You have fun hunting in Japan; I am happy hunting the rest of the world, and judging from your posts, I don't have to worry about bumping into you in my favorite places.

Well, if we are lucky the rhetoric of the forum whores is over. No sense in patronizing them.

I am not sure, but a bow may be allowed in Japan, although it is not an allowed method of hunting, for what reasons I am not sure. Most people back home pick up the bow just to be able to hunt while saving points for a rifle hunt. There is no point of that here as there are no drawings and the gun seasons are long. It is a VERY unique situation where there are too FEW hunters and TOO MANY deer. After waiting nearly a decade (still waiting) to draw a good elk tag in my home state, this place is heaven!

Remglenn, It is amazing how much forest there is here! Some places are still quite pristine and fairly inaccessible.

Sorry to say, there just really is no way for a nonresident to hunt on his own here, and it has nothing to do with money, or any such ignorant analogy. I don't feel like going into why as there are MANY reasons, I did for the last two years and there is always a genius (who is inevitably American and who eventually mentions Pearl Harbor) that thinks just because of where I reside that I owe him something more than my stories and gets his feelings hurt when I don't explain every detail.
The process is too long and I am nearly bored enough to explain it all.

Unfortunately it is very complicated and takes a long time. There are no gun rights here and it is a huge hill to climb to show that you are responsible enough to possess a firearm. Funny thing, under the law, a person never owns a gun, it is only borrowed to him,(even though you pay for it) so that it can be confiscated at any time weather a reason exists or not.

The few things about hunting Japan that you can find on the net are fairly accurate, but cannot be construed as any sort of opportunity, unless you are residing here, which by itself does not mean you CAN get licensed. Everything is subjective and you are owed nothing.

People in the service based here can take tests in English and hunt, and if any of them ever read this please feel free to get a hold of me as I would be happy to set you up with a great place to chase these things around.

Here is another pic, where's your stag?

Why do you have such a problem with Americans? Aren't you one? You know, if you had just stated some of the information in this last post as an answer to my first question this thread wouldn't have turned so ugly, right?

SLUG-You are a forum whore. Your unrelated questions need no answer.

Hokkaido,

Well interestingly enough, my brother is attorney and he speaks/reads japanese and mandrin, so i'm sure he wouldn't mind translating a gun permit for us "lesser folks".

You need to learn some manners you ignorant little chap. I've hunted quite a bit, and you might think you're a badass for shooting 12 sika bucks in a season, but it wouldn't fill a single corner of my trophy room. Cause guess what, I've shot a japanese sika deer as well as another 50+ species!

GET OVER YOURSELF!

Don't mess with Texas!

Wow!!! All this verbal vomit over some awesome pics of Sika stags. We must sure look like a joke to any non hunter looking in. Let us maintain a mature attitude and tolerance on these forums. Hate for us all to be thought of as gun toting wankers (Oz slang). Thanks again for the pics.

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Originally posted by remglenn:
Wow!!! All this verbal vomit over some awesome pics of Sika stags. We must sure look like a joke to any non hunter looking in. Let us maintain a mature attitude and tolerance on these forums. Hate for us all to be thought of as gun toting wankers (Oz slang). Thanks again for the pics.

So tell me remglenn, who is it that is acting in an immature manner?

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Hokkaido,

Well interestingly enough, my brother is attorney and he speaks/reads japanese and mandrin, so i'm sure he wouldn't mind translating a gun permit for us "lesser folks".

You need to learn some manners you ignorant little chap. I've hunted quite a bit, and you might think you're a badass for shooting 12 sika bucks in a season, but it wouldn't fill a single corner of my trophy room. Cause guess what, I've shot a japanese sika deer as well as another 50+ species!

GET OVER YOURSELF!

You sound like the crybaby in the sandlot screaming "I'm gonna go get my brother and he'll whoop ur ass!" as you wipe the tears and snot off your face.

Those 13 steps, please feel free to read them, or have them read to you. That's why I posted it, it's just too bad people don't get it. And whatever you paid to "hunt" that fenced stag you say you shot, I'm sure it was too much.
And it's more like 30-40 stags a year, not 12. Not that 12 stags a year is not enough for me. Maybe you ought to pull yourself up a chair in your trophy room and start wanking and stay off the computer until you have released your frustration.

I am done replying to leopardtrack because, judging by his writing skills, it's obvious he cannot be over 14.

Here are a few excerpts from my mailbox:

“Hate the cocksmokers on the forums who don't hunt but bag everybody esle...”
Australia

“I was just reading AR forum , a lot of jealous people about mate , AR has a bunch of rude pricks on there , that don't know what the hell they are talking about .”
New Zealand

“Dude, Accurate Reloading really cracks me up. I just checked your thread and it's funny how puzzled these guys are that you are hunting in Japan. Granted, I was too, but it's funny to watch these guys who are obviously interested in hunting there get pissed off because they can't just buy there way in like Africa, Mongolia, Nepal ect....”
USA

“Some of your fellow yanks have too much time on their hands, they need to get off AR and stick to the porn. “
UK

"Don't waste your time with those pricks, go shoot another stag and send me the pictures."
Germany


I dunno what you forum whores get from ruining this thread, but it's not a big deal to me. Guess I'll just go hunting and you can just keep typing.

AnotherAZWriter I don't disagree with your posts. I loved the original posting. I reckon the initial question was not really handled well but the slinging match that ensued was not necessary. I just don't feel comfortable with the perception it portrays to outsiders of us as a group. Don't think I need to or have the right to point out immaturity to you, I think we are both on the same page

One last pic to remind you all what this thread was supposed to be about.

I'm outta here.

Hey Eric In response to your question "which is my stag" I think it's.....1st from the left..no wait....6th from the left... no wait....8th from the left...no wait....13th from the left....OH HELL i need to look at the picture again Keep sending those fantastic pictures mate and enjoy the hell out of that hunting

Great deer Hok and i see that you are continuing the top job of dealing with the 'others'as you did when you originally posted the first of your great Sika stags.

Hokkaido,
No need to explain the hows and whys of your permit and license process. You have a wonderful opportunity and thank you for sharing it with us.

Am I in some other dimension here? Since when was asking a question in a hunting thread enough to make someone the bad guy? When asked a question I either politely decline or give an answer, not a smarmy retort that drips of arrogance and immaturity. Another thing is that the thread starter throws 4 letter words around at will and is lauded as some kind of anti-American hero as a result.

I didn't want to say this earlier because I really don't want to disparrage Hokkaido's experience but I truly have no interest in "hunting" in Japan. Judging from his pictures and descriptions about how he pretty much shoots whichever buck he feels like and how he clearly states that there are too many deer and not enough hunters it looks more like culling to me. I'm sure that he will now come back and call me a whore, douchebag, etc now but the simple truth is that if he had just been more of a gentleman in his first reply to my question this never would have eroded the way it has.

I asked a simple question, that's it! Now there are hordes of people seemingly from Australia, Europe, or wherever lining up to proclaim the Americans as being jealous. Not true, simply curious. By the way, before Hokkaido calls me "corn cob" agan, I'm originally from Vietnam and have no interest in hunting there either. If you guys want to keep patting his back for telling off the Yanks go ahead but the fact is that he's an immature pissant no matter where he lives now. I'm done here.

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Originally posted by Hokkaido:
One last pic to remind you all what this thread was supposed to be about.

I'm outta here.

Great pics mate, thanks for sharing - Hunting over there must be a blast.

Oh! - yea, ignore the background noise - they thrive on baiting you.

Poor little trolls, perhaps the twats have finally realised that their "Uncle sams" are worth shit - So Zimbabwe along with 'Botox Bob ‘ and discounted deals, is all they can afford now a days.

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Hok,
Tell me again, how can an american like myself get a permit to hunt in Japan?

Great pictures of your season Eric !
Its a pity everyone seems to have thrown their toys out of the pram.
I thought the 13 steps outlined below bit was quite witty.
Well done on leaving the stag stuck in the snow.
Would there ever have been any satisfaction ?

I must say that I am sorry that this post took a serious down turn...

Like many I am enthralled and amazed that there is hunting in Japan.

I do know something about there gun laws as i am friends with a writer/photographer that writes for a Japanese Magazine [I and a few friends have appeared in the magazine].

And as long as 30 years ago there was a "service" where Japanese businessmen would come to Texas for several days to "shoot guns".

I am impressed with the pictures of the animals and the hunting country Hokkaido has shown us, and I am impressed that he has been able to hunt in Japan.

Thanks for sharing. Ignore the detractors. If someone wants to hunt in Japan, do your own homework or call Bob Kern. I would not invite someone to my "honey hole".

Perfectly good and interesting thread....gone to shit.

I tripped onto this thread by accident. I have no interest in hunting as my fiendishments are in other areas. However I did note that the originator's first response to the Japanese hunting inquiry did have an arrogant English smack to it. This suggests a real or perceived upper social and educational status of a party from any one of the old colonial populations. This was exacerbated by following responses with added mockery and naughty words. This can cause a reader to start recalling his basic psyche classes from college and mentally reviewing odd bits of Freud.

On the other hand some of the affirmative responses seem a bit side-choosing from people who had no input prior whether favorable or unfavorable. It sounds like the Commonwealth of Colonies is rising up against the one colony that successfully rebelled. This gets back to something interesting to Americans and that is the persecution of gun ownership in Japan along with their mindless zombie bureaucracy overlaid on their social discipline and behavior. For the bloody vicious history they had among themselves and nearby nations I am surprised that they license and register edged tools (common knife makers) and duly register or license their fine swords. On the other hand the use of firearms seems to have been most successful in their history among their hillbilly/corncob/gomer farmers who used them against traditionalist Japanese warriors using their edged weapons. So there may be a sore point about guns in the minds of the ruling classes.

With this background knowledge anyone finding a round eye in Japan actually living there and knowing the language would ask some obvious questions on that alone much less on hunting. When those questions arise they should be periodically answered as a matter of education. After all, school teachers do teach the same thing over and over...year after year...

WHAT THE....*

Those are some BIG SIKA!!! WOW

We hunt them free range (no fence) on our place in Texas, but they are nothing like this in terms of antler size (body yes - sometimes). We saw a monster one year (like these), but he had broken one of his antlers when we first saw him and it was hanging on barely by the base and couldn't get a shot. Next time we saw him, it was gone. And we saw him all the fall - I guess thumbing his nose at us. Never seen anything that big since.

Hmm,

I am sure Hokaido is probably tired of answering that question. I hate questions like that, "why do you get to do something, I do not, or others do not?".

I would probably give a rude answer.

I had a friend from Hungary that has done a lot of hunting all over the world. Hungary is not known as a very rich country, and I am sure my friend has more than a lot of money. But I don't ask him how he affords to travel.

I have been asked on several occasions to explain how I got to hunt in Germany, Spain, Namibia, Alaska, Turkey, and all over the US on a sailors paycheck. It's a question I am really tired of.

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Hmm,

I am sure Hokaido is probably tired of answering that question. I hate questions like that, "why do you get to do something, I do not, or others do not?".

I would probably give a rude answer.

I had a friend from Hungary that has done a lot of hunting all over the world. Hungary is not known as a very rich country, and I am sure my friend has more than a lot of money. But I don't ask him how he affords to travel.

I have been asked on several occasions to explain how I got to hunt in Germany, Spain, Namibia, Alaska, Turkey, and all over the US on a sailors paycheck. It's a question I am really tired of.

I don't understand why it's necessary to give a rude answer to a question you are "tired of." If you know you're going to get a question about owning guns or hunting in Japan because people think that both are impossible, why don't you just have a couple of links handy that explain those things.

How to own guns in Japan

Wildlife Protection and Hunting Law

Crow Hunting In Japan

All these are a little dated, but they'll give people the general idea. The Ministry of the Environment doesn't have an active link to the most current version of the relevant law.

Seriously, if you know people are going to be surprised when you post, year after year, about hunting in Japan then why not just be prepared to answer the question. Obviously Hokkaido had a link to an image that didn't help anybody out. How hard would it have been to have a link to something that would have? There's no reason for being a dick on a discussion forum (except if it's the Political forum).

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I don't understand why it's necessary to give a rude answer to a question you are "tired of

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There's no reason for being a dick on a discussion forum

It is typically a reflection on the quality (or lack there of) of their parents.

505 gibbs who are you to question the quality of someones parents.

Just a small little man hiding behind a computer.

A friend of mine is married to a Russian lady, who's parents immigrated when she was 16. She has a very strong accent, and of course gets the "where are you from" question about 20 times a day. She told me her patience for it was getting thin. Why should this poor lady have to answer 20 questions with everyone she meets?

I think you have a very incredible sense of entitlement.

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Originally posted by D99:
Hmm,

I am sure Hokaido is probably tired of answering that question. I hate questions like that, "why do you get to do something, I do not, or others do not?".

I would probably give a rude answer.

I had a friend from Hungary that has done a lot of hunting all over the world. Hungary is not known as a very rich country, and I am sure my friend has more than a lot of money. But I don't ask him how he affords to travel.

I have been asked on several occasions to explain how I got to hunt in Germany, Spain, Namibia, Alaska, Turkey, and all over the US on a sailors paycheck. It's a question I am really tired of.

I don't understand why it's necessary to give a rude answer to a question you are "tired of." If you know you're going to get a question about owning guns or hunting in Japan because people think that both are impossible, why don't you just have a couple of links handy that explain those things.

How to own guns in Japan

Wildlife Protection and Hunting Law

Crow Hunting In Japan

All these are a little dated, but they'll give people the general idea. The Ministry of the Environment doesn't have an active link to the most current version of the relevant law.

Seriously, if you know people are going to be surprised when you post, year after year, about hunting in Japan then why not just be prepared to answer the question. Obviously Hokkaido had a link to an image that didn't help anybody out. How hard would it have been to have a link to something that would have? There's no reason for being a dick on a discussion forum (except if it's the Political forum).

Well said, CFS.

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Originally posted by D99:
505 gibbs who are you to question the quality of someones parents.

Just a small little man hiding behind a computer.

A friend of mine is married to a Russian lady, who's parents immigrated when she was 16. She has a very strong accent, and of course gets the "where are you from" question about 20 times a day. She told me her patience for it was getting thin. Why should this poor lady have to answer 20 questions with everyone she meets?

I think you have a very incredible sense of entitlement.

I've lived abroad. I know what it's like to be an object of local interest. I find it amazing that some people are so delicate they can't even deal with the inevitable polite curiousity that comes with the situation.

But let's leave aside all the unrelated issues you keep bringing up. The fact is when you start a discussion thread on a discussion forum you are inviting a discussion.

I know for a fact that when I mention hunting in Japan, I'm going to get questions from people who are new to the concept who think that owning guns in Japan is impossible and that the place is so overpopulated hunting is out of the question.

It takes relatively little effort to say hunting is only available to legal residents and supply a link to a site that explains the situation. Certainly no more effort than linking to an image that won't do any non-Japanese reader any good and then topping it off with an FU emoticon.

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505 gibbs who are you to question the quality of someones parents.

D99, Hokkaido created doubt as to the quality of his parents by being rude when someone asked him a very simple question. He then erased any doubt as to their or his character when his hand was called on his behavior and he became even more aggressive. It would be one thing if this was a discussion based in controversy and differing opinions, it however was one gentleman asking another gentleman how he was able to accomplish something the other thought impossible. Shame on Hokkaido for not being a gentleman, and yes, it reflects poorly on his parents just as it would if my children went out and behaved like savages.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

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505 gibbs who are you to question the quality of someones parents.

D99, Hokkaido created doubt as to the quality of his parents by being rude when someone asked him a very simple question. He then erased any doubt as to their or his character when his hand was called on his behavior and he became even more aggressive. It would be one thing if this was a discussion based in controversy and differing opinions, it however was one gentleman asking another gentleman how he was able to accomplish something the other thought impossible. Shame on Hokkaido for not being a gentleman, and yes, it reflects poorly on his parents just as it would if my children went out and behaved like savages.

You have to be kidding Mr 505,picking out Hokkaido`s parents as some to blame..you are a goose!

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You have to be kidding Mr 505,picking out Hokkaido`s parents as some to blame..you are a goose!

ignorance is bliss, eh gryphon? I would hate to meet your little hellions.

You certainly would hate to do so as they would all love take a kick at your arse moron

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You certainly would hate to do so as they would all love take a kick at your arse moron

Well, your hellions mostly tried to knock me out of the game from the front end, not the arse end. I've got the chipped teeth to prove it. That is, when my ship docked in Brisbane and we played rugby in Perth. How you guys didn't break my nose, I'll never know.

Personally as a business owner I have mixed feelings about getting into fights. On the one hand, it's bad for business. On the other hand, it's somewhat gratifying when a twenty-something waitress who works for you blurts out "Wow, he's got some moves" as you defeat an attack and position yourself to choke the shit out of some miscreant. Literally, as the fact the guy crapped his pants was a matter of police interest when they finally arrived following the last altercation I was in.

But somehow I don't believe that the level of physical violence that I'm comfortable with is the issue.

The issue is the "sense of entitlement." Which is bullshit.

My knowledge of the situation stems from the fact I was an officer in the Navy. All officers gain a certain knowledge in providing briefings. And part of that tells you that you anticipate questions and have the answer in your hip pocket. Again, literally, as when I embarked in this business we used 3x5 cards as notes.

I can promise you that Hokkaido, if he was in, was what we call a TED. Typical Enlisted Dude. He's got the attitude of a TED.

I suppose the difference between an officer and a TED is that as an officer you're not only expected to know what you're talking about, but it's not considered an imposition to prove it.

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You certainly would hate to do so as they would all love take a kick at your arse moron

threatening violence now gryphon? calling names? amazing, people on this board call my "manhood" into question when I have a negative reaction to anothers behaviour, however, people like you resort to the above and are beyond reproach. So, if you typically behave as you have in this discourse, does that mean that there are 3 generations of trash in your family? Just wondering?