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Originally posted by smarterthanu:
Plenty of people on this forum openly hate my guts and in all honestly that bothers me very little.

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...because they are whores! Like I said earlier we can't do anything with North Korea or Iran because every time the civilized world tries to impose sanctions the whores from Russia and China come out of the wood work! It's so predictable it's nauseating!

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Mike,

I agree that I'm throwing stones in a glass house with regards to selling arms to third world countries. In regards to screwing the rest of the world by breaking/derailing sanctions agains North Korea and Iran I still say whores........ I also agree that stating hunting in Iran equals sponsoring terrorism is a little much. I also agree it's probably better for the political forum.

Brett

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I don't know about Iran, but Craig Boddington says yes to Pakistan.... http://www.sportsafield.com/no...ield/travel-troubles ....he must hate the military.....

Brett

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I'm in total agreement. And while we're at representing our countries please note not all Americans are ignorant bigotted fools. Thanks.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Danish,
Are you stating that when you hunt in Iran, no money goes to the government?

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Originally posted by China Fleet Sailor:
r.e. Brett
I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I hate him.

I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I secretly believe my intellect is sufficiently superior to mask my racism.

He's another man, same as me, living where the hunting's good.

Unassisted, as I am, by the four letter variants of the the words I normally use to salt my language, the alternatives don't come so easily. I can not express the deep contempt I hold for you.

I can only ask Sind_Ibex not to class me with people like you.

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Originally posted by Sind_Ibex:

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Originally posted by China Fleet Sailor:
r.e. Brett
I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I hate him.

I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I secretly believe my intellect is sufficiently superior to mask my racism.

He's another man, same as me, living where the hunting's good.

Unassisted, as I am, by the four letter variants of the the words I normally use to salt my language, the alternatives don't come so easily. I can not express the deep contempt I hold for you.

I can only ask Sind_Ibex not to class me with people like you.

my posts were not directed at you if this is the impression u got then pls accept my appologies, i was talking generally, because i just wrote this whole thread from the begining once again, thats why..

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Allright Brett, well lets just keep it to this thread then, below are some of your quotes off of this very discussion. Did you say something in one of them about "people who live in glass houses"? Toughen up, man.

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...because they are whores! Like I said earlier we can't do anything with North Korea or Iran because every time the civilized world tries to impose sanctions the whores from Russia and China come out of the wood work! It's so predictable it's nauseating!

Yes I called the governments of China and Russia whores. Not another forum member. Almost the same.......well not really.

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Mike,

I agree that I'm throwing stones in a glass house with regards to selling arms to third world countries. In regards to screwing the rest of the world by breaking/derailing sanctions agains North Korea and Iran I still say whores........ I also agree that stating hunting in Iran equals sponsoring terrorism is a little much. I also agree it's probably better for the political forum.

Brett

Yes again a government and not a fellow forum member.

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I don't know about Iran, but Craig Boddington says yes to Pakistan.... http://www.sportsafield.com/no...ield/travel-troubles ....he must hate the military.....

Brett

I thought the irony was kind of funny? No?

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I'm in total agreement. And while we're at representing our countries please note not all Americans are ignorant bigotted fools. Thanks.

This is what I wrote in response to having said that:

"Brad,

Not particularly meant for you or CFS. I see and hear enough "towel head", "all muslims are terorists", and "we should nuke the whole place" to leave me slightly nauseated. I don't know that your bigotted and I can certainly respect your and CFS view....especially CFS as he's able to converse with respect to other people without resorting to name calling and posting rediculous pictures. Ignorant? I don't know. Intellegent people tend to make their point without being inflamitory, name calling , and/or childish antics."

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Originally posted by China Fleet Sailor:
r.e. Brett
I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I hate him.

I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I secretly believe my intellect is sufficiently superior to mask my racism.

He's another man, same as me, living where the hunting's good.

Unassisted, as I am, by the four letter variants of the the words I normally use to salt my language, the alternatives don't come so easily. I can not express the deep contempt I hold for you.

I can only ask Sind_Ibex not to class me with people like you.

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Originally posted by Sind_Ibex:

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Danish,
Are you stating that when you hunt in Iran, no money goes to the government?

the way govts run their business in mid east, S.E. asia and most other countries of the world is they have different ministries running different department, they generate income from their various resources, what im trying to explain is that by hunting in Iran you are not in anyway contributing to for example a ministry of defence (which would pay wages to their armed forces), (like i said that for example in pakistan) with the income generated by hunting the locals are helped, schools and hospitals are built, 80% of the trophy fees goes towards the local communities/villagers, 20 % is given to the ministry of wild life which pays its staff who in turn works towards the conservation of these animals, they stop poaching, they guide hunters, (they are not members of armed forces, they are members of wild life dept) but i respect anyone's decision should they choose not to go to a certain country for hunting. i am merely pointing out some facts for those friends who might have this impression that if they pay $12000 for a transcaspoian urial then those $12k or any part of it would be used to buy a bomb or weapons to fight against usa, no sir. its not like that. Iran has many other natural resources that they can use for that purpose but the wild sheeps and the local communities are not used for this purpose, nor do they have anything against the army, if your reason for not wanting to hunt in Iran is that you have Iranian friends living in your country and they all tell you how cruel the government is in that country then you should know that this is exactly what USA fights against, it fights against terrorism, it fights against injustice. but those countries who we are not at war (as yet) i.e. Iran then i think the american hunters going their are the true american patriots because they are going to Iran, they are giving the impression to the common man there that americans are not cruel and mean people who are just after everyones blood, but in reality they are always trying to help everyone. and pls remember that this is the reason why your soldiers are sent to Iraq, afghanistan etc... to help the poor people of those countries (your governments made those decisions) your soldiers did not lay their lives and made all those sacrifices because they wanted to get some thrill out of kicking butt and killing lots of enemies, they went their to win the hearts of these people and liberate them, these are their orders.. (although i think govts. have many other motives but im talking about soldiers) so i genuinly believe that by hunting in Iran americans would win a lot of hearts of the people of that country. every Iranian who at one time has guided an american hunter for example will have this impression printed in his mind that these guys are actually all right, they have helped us, can you imagine if this guy was ever sent to fight the americans he would actually lack the moral courage to fight with them. this is the angle im looking at it from.

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Originally posted by Code4:
I think its great a certain section of the hunting community aren't going hunting in Iran.

Now would be a very pleasant time to go.

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Originally posted by Sind_Ibex:
i am merely pointing out some facts for those friends who might have this impression that if they pay $12000 for a transcaspoian urial then those $12k or any part of it would be used to buy a bomb or weapons to fight against usa, no sir. its not like that. Iran has many other natural resources that they can use for that purpose but the wild sheeps and the local communities are not used for this purpose . . .

i think the american hunters going their are the true american patriots because they are going to Iran, they are giving the impression to the common man there that americans are not cruel and mean people who are just after everyones blood, but in reality they are always trying to help everyone . . .

i genuinly believe that by hunting in Iran americans would win a lot of hearts of the people of that country. every Iranian who at one time has guided an american hunter for example will have this impression printed in his mind that these guys are actually all right, they have helped us, can you imagine if this guy was ever sent to fight the americans he would actually lack the moral courage to fight with them. this is the angle im looking at it from.

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

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Originally posted by China Fleet Sailor:
r.e. Brett
I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I hate him.

I didn't engage Sind_Ibex in a dialogue because I secretly believe my intellect is sufficiently superior to mask my racism.

He's another man, same as me, living where the hunting's good.

Unassisted, as I am, by the four letter variants of the the words I normally use to salt my language, the alternatives don't come so easily. I can not express the deep contempt I hold for you.

I can only ask Sind_Ibex not to class me with people like you.

CFS,

Please reread my posts. At no time did I attack you. The only thing I did say was that although I don't agree totally with you I admire the fact that you can conveigh your thoughts like a gentleman without resorting to name calling and childish behavior. See bellow quote:

"Brad,

Not particularly meant for you or CFS. I see and hear enough "towel head", "all muslims are terorists", and "we should nuke the whole place" to leave me slightly nauseated. I don't know that your bigotted and I can certainly respect your and CFS view....especially CFS as he's able to converse with respect to other people without resorting to name calling and posting rediculous pictures. Ignorant? I don't know. Intellegent people tend to make their point without being inflamitory, name calling , and/or childish antics."

Sorry for any confussion.

Brett

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Originally posted by Sind_Ibex:

...i genuinly believe that by hunting in Iran americans would win a lot of hearts of the people of that country. every Iranian who at one time has guided an american hunter for example will have this impression printed in his mind that these guys are actually all right, they have helped us, can you imagine if this guy was ever sent to fight the americans he would actually lack the moral courage to fight with them. this is the angle im looking at it from.

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Originally posted by China Fleet Sailor:
Sorry for not apologizing to you earlier. I clearly took something you posted completely the wrong way.

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Originally posted by btglfer:
I see no mention yet of an article in Sports Afield by JY Jones of a hunt completed recently in Iran, arranged by Bob Kern.

He has very good things to say about the people and the logistics of such a hunt.

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Originally posted by btglfer:
I see no mention yet of an article in Sports Afield by JY Jones of a hunt completed recently in Iran, arranged by Bob Kern.

He has very good things to say about the people and the logistics of such a hunt.

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Originally posted by swampshooter:
They put Americans in prison just for going hiking, for sure I'm not going there.

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Originally posted by Aziz:
Good job Danish, I agree with your argument for Americans to hunt in Iran wholeheartedly and could not have presented a more balanced argument to support it than the one you did.

Best regards
Aziz

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Originally posted by brandoninaz:

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Originally posted by btglfer:
I see no mention yet of an article in Sports Afield by JY Jones of a hunt completed recently in Iran, arranged by Bob Kern.

He has very good things to say about the people and the logistics of such a hunt.

It was a good article, I very much enjoyed it.