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Note: I have no problem affirming somethings you say that are true or fact. It's not an accident that I do that sometimes. It's your twisted inferences that I take exceptions to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-44717074 How much do Nato members spend on defence? 10 July 2024 By Anthony Reuben, BBC Verify (excerpt) The US is a global superpower, with military commitments around the world, not just to Nato. It had GDP equal to all the rest of the members of Nato in 2024, and its spending on defence is two thirds of the Nato total. Defence spending by European Nato members and Canada has increased over the last 10 years. The cost sharing is based on national income. The three biggest contributors to this are the US and Germany at 16% and the UK at 11%. The US used to pay more than 22% of these running costs. But a new payment formula was agreed in 2019 to address complaints by the Trump administration about the burden to the US of supporting the alliance. ====================================================== https://www.politico.com/news/...-trump-term-00164517 Trump’s Plan for NATO Is Emerging Trump advisers envision a ‘radical reorientation’ in which Washington takes a back seat to Europe — and cuts a deal with Putin over Ukraine. Donald Trump has threatened to leave NATO so many times — or has appeared to, anyway — that for many of his critics, it’s a question of when, not whether, he’d ditch the 75-year-old alliance if he’s reelected president in November. In truth, Trump would be unlikely to quit NATO outright, according to interviews with former Trump national security officials and defense experts who are likely to serve in a second Trump term. But even if he doesn’t formally leave the organization, that doesn’t mean NATO would survive a second Trump term intact. =============================================== ‘radical reorientation’ That's Trump's second term goal on just about everything. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Anytime someone embraces or ignores lies, corruption, fraud, such person's morals and decision making thereof, are finely tuned, indeed. As in Vance's case, in the internal struggle between morals, ambition, anger and principles, it looks like ambition and anger won. That's the "finely tuned" and flexible that I'm talking about. It's not growing out of indoctrination as Lane described it. It's not maturing either. It is a breakthrough, re morals, into where something else matters more. It's a choice, or a series of choices on a trajectory not necessarily linear. We can reasonably consider Vance's trajectory to be somewhere before the crescendo or peak. It exemplifies the difference in "the end justifies the means" vs "the means justifies the end" where the means holding solid to the ethical and moral processes foremost, with the goal like the reward. The means are flexible in the "end justifies the means" scenario, and the end is rigid. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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No sir…propaganda is a fact as well. Schiff to Maddow: “I have seen intelligence that will convict Trump of colluding with Russia.” (Paraphrased) PURE propaganda^^^ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Nothing twisted except your mind. What I said is true. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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If the Democratic Party weren’t completely devoid of morals…you might have a point. If Joe Biden hadn’t sold America for half a century…you might have a point. If Biden didn’t lie regularly…you might have a point. But they/he are/have/does…thus there is no point to be made in your post. At this point in time…any Democrat in executive control harms the country. Any Republican provides a better path. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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ITS TRUE BECAUSE I HAVE DECLARED IRNRO BE TRUE!!!!! Such is the infallible logic of our blue cheerleader. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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He just misjudged Trump's ability to lawfare.
The facts were given in my post. Some of which affirmed your claims of facts, but not your inferences. The fact is that Trump wants to do Putin's bidding and destroy NATO. The fact is that Putin's actions in invading Ukraine strengthened NATO.
First you say that you embrace none of what I accuse you of, then you go ahead and embrace exactly that accused of - expressing internalized opinions with no basis/backup, and most importantly fully believe they are facts instead of nothing more than skewed opinions. It's nothing more than fine tuned moral rationalization taken to a higher level. You are helpless. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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They only thing that Putins invasion of the Ukraine did was threaten the Biden crime family’s money laundering operation. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Lane, my algorithm is working overtime. I'm serious. It has fed me the perfect article for you. So, I share it with you here: First a quote, which should show you how and why I argue with you, and insist on my level rather than your level. I know that's frustrating for you, but I intend it that way. As American writer Mark Twain once cautioned: "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." Definition of stupidity: "Stupidity is a lack of intelligence, understanding, reason, or wit, an inability to learn. It may be innate, assumed or reactive." Note there's a menu of cause and effect there in the definition. I don't think "lack of intelligence" or "innate" is your cause. Next: IMO you should consider it a compliment that I argue with you. Note that I don't bother arguing long with people like hasher. I consider you worthwhile. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...230e39b361d9b7&ei=49 Exploring the Roots of Stupidity: Psychology of What Lies Behind Irrational Opinions (I put the purpose of this post in bold, because that's what this post is about - not stupidity in itself, broadly, but that specific aspect of it.) (excerpt) Most people, at one time or another, act foolishly. However, truly ignorant individuals exhibit a lack of introspection and stubbornly cling to their opinions, regardless of how irrational they may be. These people demonstrate unwavering self-assurance and are often oblivious to their own inadequacies. They craft retrospective justifications to validate their beliefs and hold onto them. Even when presented with opportunities for personal growth and change, they seem incapable of breaking free from their entrenched habits. Reasoning with stubborn individuals can be as perplexing as it is frustrating. Many have written it off as a hopeless task. To argue against stupidity only seems to reinforce it. These individuals thrive on power and control, defending their position and denying their foolishness, regardless of counterarguments. (there's more) ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Mangina Excellent condescension. That means talking down to us. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Is ignored the same as talking down? How about talking on a parallel plane. Look at the definition of stupidity. Where do you fit in? I have my opinion about that. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I would gladly discuss on a parallel plane if you offered one as opposed to just screaming the party line and instead offered depareae points. But you don’t. So here we are watching you post literally xxx to hack your post count. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Trolls are best ignored. They are like flies. Buzz off. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Well now we can see why you have over 20k posts in just 7 years. Because you offer literally nothing. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Okay, I snuck a read on your post. Troll frenzy much!!! can't stand being ignored? The article that I linked above is very good. and it's not talking down. It's constructive. Yet you refused to read it or even consider it might be good. Instead you attacked. What have you offered except trollmanship and an utter distraction? I'm trying to understand how and why Lane is how he is, as a good example, which BTW has been clearly demonstrated by his own words and posts. You, so far, being so transparent, IMO, are not worth the time. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I am waiting for you to offer an article penned by someone who is a not a blue state loyalist. Trust me I’m having a hard time finding one that is not by a red state loyalist. Objective journalism is a rare thing in this day and age. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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The link I posted is objective and has practically nothing to do with blue or red. I am not quick to ignore someone. But you are pushing. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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We are going to have to do something g here that I despise and agree to disagree because I didn’t see it as all that objective. Likely Our differences on that article stem from being on opposite sides of the political spectrum. I’ll try and find one I hope both of us will consider objective later today but right this moment I got a truck load of mulch to spread and about 5 cubic yards of dirt to move by hand. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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You, sir, are a liar. Want to prove me wrong? Pony up with the evidence. | |||
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Really Explain how Bidens son and so many other relatives of democrat elites are on the boards of various Ukrainian corporations. That’s about as credible as hunters “artwork”. FFS. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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You explain it since you made the claim. I searched, but didn't find the proof. You must have proof, since we all know of your integrity for telling the truth. Please share it with us. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Really? He was a board member of Burisma. What experience does he have in the energy sector other than daddy being POTUS??? How many corporations put crack heads on their boards? Survey says 1. Want to talk about Hunter the Artist? Suddenly he’s a painter selling his painting for big $$$. Yeah no money laundering there either. How about the tapes promising access to daddy? Forgot about that as well didn’t you? You should attack Barron Trump next. He should be an easy target for you. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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People who repeat baseless claims, innuendo, and outright lies are either liars themselves or simpletons without any critical thinking skills. Sitting on the board of a foreign corporation isn't illegal, nor any reason in itself to accuse someone of foul play. If Hunter parlayed his name and association with his father into such a position, I don't admire it but neither do I blame his father. It doesn't look good, and if it were a public office there would be at least an apparent conflict of interest. I wonder why the Republicans in Congress never investigated Trump's children and son-in-law who profited richly from their association with their dad. And why does the irony and hypocrisy escape our Trump-worshipping members? Weird. | |||
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They should have been investigated. Notice you skipped right over Hunter the “Artist”. There is a hell of a lot that should be investigated in this country. Starting with the insider trading by both sides in Congress. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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You answered a question that wasn't asked, plus is doesn't support your claim, which was far more than just about Hunter. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Please explain how Hunter the Artist violated any law or ethics code? Is he barred from earning a living by profiting off his name? I guess there's another reason to hate Jane Fonda. Why haven't you blamed Henry for his daughter's dastardly conduct in developing her acting career based on her name? You have a strange set of principles. Do you know how many people write books and sell art based on their name or association with some important person? | |||
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Sue you should write a book because you sure can spin a yarn. And I only hate JF for what she did to our POW’s. For that she should burn in the fires of hell for eternity. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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https://youtube.com/shorts/Pu3...?si=Rdy13zEPhETmUHOa Lauren Boebert EMBARRASSES herself ================ Of course you are not embarrassed. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I am honestly embarrassed that she got elected and that she will now be my rep. While I generally vote red (there have been exceptions) she is t getting my vote. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Ledvm These must be facts because they were said on the internet. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Trump and his shitty isolationist foreign policy are in no way good for NATO, America, or the world. Face it, Trump is Putin's lapdog, sad but true. Poor Reagan, spinning in his grave at what Trump has done to the GOP. | |||
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It wasn't about her. I was about the BS she said, which is the same BS you said. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I think it's too late for Putin to act out of respect, after killing so many people including his own. If you are implying that Trump and Putin had some mutual respect, or that Putin has respect in general --- wow. Maybe, somehow, there is some sort of respect between monsters. One thing that can be counted on between those two monsters is whatever relations they had it was transactional. Trump could give Putin NATO - for what? Or why? I think I remember Nixon and Gorbachev got along too. Things were different then. I think it was JFK who taught Khrushchev some respect over the Cuban Missile Crisis. After all, why should Trump care about NATO at all? His only interest in it was transactional, about money, and the taken advantage of thing was just his excuse for fucking with it. You know - plausible denial. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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And poor old Mangina laps her drivel like mana from heaven....poor old woman..... . | |||
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Reagan had far too many morals to support a scoundrel like Trump, he might have been your hero but you missed his message. Not too different from how you missed the concept of a Christian striving to behave in manner worthy of respect rather than like the lying, cheating philandering fraud that Trump is. | |||
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Not 911, or Biden opening the border..... Says a lot about you... . | |||
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Poor old woman has a lot in common with goofy joe..... | |||
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And your willingness to support someone who tried to steal a Presidential election says plenty about you..... | |||
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