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Those who you and I call freedom fighters, are known to the MAGAts and Putinists as ‘insurgents’. It’s just a matter of perspective, and whether or not they have value to you or if you prefer to kill them. They can even change! I remember when the Mujahideen were the U.S. championed ‘freedom fighters’, and in the early 80’s they were supplied with huge shipments of arms to fight off the Russians. Then the Russians said “Ah, to hell with it!” and went home. Somebody waved a magic wand, the Mujahideen became the Taliban, and they were rebadged as ‘insurgents’…and the Americans suddenly realized that all those arms they supplied could shoot in both directions. Like I said - perspective. Is the gun barrel pointed toward you, or away? It makes all the difference. When Agent Krasnov decides to invade Canada, we (and hopefully a few more civilized nations, Greenland and Panama at least) will be calling ourselves ‘freedom fighters’ while the MAGAts will be calling us ‘insurgents’. It’ll be the hottest ticket this side of the Bighorn Sheep draw, and it’ll probably keep us entertained for years. Remember the Alamo!  | |||
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Your purpose, if you choose to accept it, will be to provide wisdom to people too young to have gotten it. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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the nazis called during the wwII all the resistants/partizans by the name of terrorists ... | |||
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How do you figure that Scott? Trump put huge effort into fixing the VA in his first term. He seems to care a lot about our service people. | |||
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?????? Trump has been quoted as nauseum insulting Milley and the rest of his 1st term cabinet. Trump has been quoted insulting McCain, those interned in the cemetery at Normandy and Gold Star families. I know, I know, I've been told repetitively to ignore Trump's words, but I'm having a hard time with that. I'm supposed to take God's Word as law, revere the words of Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln , JFK, and other, but what comes out of Trump's mouth is water off a ducks back?  | |||
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The defenders of the Alamo saved Texas but only because Santa Anna was such a poor general. I won't get into the fact that the Americans who came to Texas, which was then part of Mexico, violated the deal by bringing slaves and Baptist preachers with them. Don't get me wrong, I'm a proud Texan, born and raised on the Mexican border. But Santa Anna screwed up big time by engaging at the Alamos. It delayed his advance by two weeks over a force of less than 200 men when he could have bypassed it and proceeded north against Houston before Houston could assemble an army. Santa Anna could, and should, have bypassed the Alamo, perhaps leaving a small force to keep them pinned down. Instead, he inflicted significant casualties on his army and delayed their advance. But he didn't and the rest is history and I'm glad it turned out like it did. My ancestors did not fight at the Alamo, but they lived on the Lavaca river at the time and some of the residents of that community did. | |||
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dickweed I volunteered to go where I was sent. I loved the rush of combat. I trained to be the best of the best, and wanted to prove it, as did the men in my unit. I figured if those I faced didnt want to die, they should have trained harder. Tom, I do my best to pass on knowledge to youngsters as I go through life now. | |||
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Never happened " those interned in the cemetery at Normandy and Gold Star families." - single, (oh, you mentioned one disgruntled source) debunked source said these things -- i could say "a source near to trump says you won an everlasting gobstopper from willie wonka" and some folks would believe it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Other than those 83,000 VA employees (20,000 of them are veterans) who have been or will be fired at the VA thanks to the little South African Nazi weirdo. https://www.military.com/daily...affing-increase.html | |||
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Yeah, well I’m just going to leave that there…  Have a good one. | |||
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SUA SPONTE ! | |||
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You are a world champion Cherry Picker and Contortionist. | |||
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Hear hear to remember the Alamo. Revisited it 4 weeks ago while my son was competing at the Texas State Trap and Sporting Clays competition held by the San Antonio Livestock show. I am always humbled in its aura. No descendants of the Alamo here. My family homesteaded west of Fort Richardson in Comanche Territory in the 1870s. Still own that ground today. When I was a small child, there were elders in Jacksboro who were present in the last Comanche raids. Remember the Alamo!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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sure thing, Scott -- i wasn't the one posting the "facts" that are fully debunked - opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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They certainly have been debunked. It was nothing more than gossip. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Trumps insults to Mattis, Kelly, McCain, Miley, etc are not debunked, are fact and easy to lookup for yourselves. Trumps words and any defense of them are disgusting. | |||
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did you READ my post? n, one little tiny bit of critical reading, for what I SAID, not what you READ -- i didn't deny insulting generals, now, did i? here, let me help you out -- please do find where i said DIDDLY about insulting generals
opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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On McCain and Milley…I was in full agreement with Trump. The thing with Kelly has 2 sides and Kelly’s actions were also questionable. Mattis’ actions were questionable as well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Let's get back to the post. REMEMBER THE ALAMO! | |||
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not to be "that guy" ... but crickets opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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The two of us and others know your fully of shit, I don't feel inclined to bother with you all the time. | |||
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Are we saying soldiers can’t be criticized? It’s like any other job, sometimes you screw up and then you pay for it And nobody criticizes regular combat soldiers, that’s tough job and screw ups are done usually in moments notice but high ups when they enter politics, the know they will have to choose sides and they will be criticized and as it should be Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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I'm saying that soldiers or officers should be criticized or censured but not belittled or insulted. It used to be our fellow Americans and especially our fighting men were due an amount of respect and consideration. Trump has in fact frequently belitted the military including war dead, General Kelly confirmed it, There was no "debunking". Trump and his ilk have no respect for either law enforcement nor the military/ our veterans. | |||
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I beg to differ Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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You deny facts. | |||
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I'm currently in San Antonio and have been considering the Alamo although have not been able to visit. Especially with the strongly held views here regarding that battle, I'd find it enormously funny to hear Trump's honest thoughts regarding the Alamo and it's heroes as shared in person with our Texas friends. Should go without saying that in the aftermath the drinks would be on me and I'd share nothing but sympathy and brotherly love. | |||
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except i am correct on the points i raised, and you refuse to read what i said, not what you read - In other news this is an outstandingly good texmex place in SA -- the family also own mi tierra in the market square, but cheaper and WAY less lead time, less crowds, https://lafamiliacortez.com/restaurants/mi-familia/ it's pretty darn good opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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We live in great times In not so distant past screw ups were dealt with harshly and even with death as punishment Criticism is part of us and it only helps us strive and grow and learn Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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Soldiers were given respect and consideration? Have you ever talked to a vietnam vet about the respect they received Scott? Do you think there would be that given if the public knew of some of the classified missions done? I mentioned earlier in the thread, Sua Sponte. It was our creed. It means " of ones own accord" We volunteered for the training we did, and were put through. We volunteered for C level SERE training. All who passed, loved the adrenalin rush of what we did, and accepted our missions. But it would not always be respected by the public if they knew. | |||
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Oh Jesus. Here I thought two national holidays, the memorization of most of the Branches anthems, monuments, the VA, right down to pre boarding on the airlines was out of respect, affection or consideration for our military. Did you actually serve or you just play lots of "Call of Duty". | |||
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No offence but this is exactly how I see it. It's not that I would not feel safe or welcome, I have lived and worked in some pretty shaky places and got along fine, and San Antonio is for the most part a very fine city by any world standards. No, it's because of what Trump, MAGA, and half the your nation is doing to itself and the world, economically, politically and morally, it's a cancer and I won't be a part of it. I find it to be very toxic just being your friend and neighbour. Many Canadians see it in a similar way. You are destroying your own country and given enough time you will destroy a lot more that that. This is what I have always tried to explain to Trump supporters on this forum but most are not ready yet to see it. You are moving closer to a rude awakening every week. There is a significant portion of the America society that does not see what is happening. "Fasism has come to America" We Canadians hope and pray that you get it pretty soon for the sake of all of us. I say this with only a little spite but mostly disappointment and dread. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Do we need to go over the meaning of the word unsubstantiated again just for you Jeffe? We all know that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer but damn...really? | |||
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Just sad what Trump is doing to our relationships with our allies, it makes me sick. | |||
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Dont get me wrong scott. I love that you see the military members with respect. But, you are not everyone. And there have been times of disrespect. There are times when people are better off not knowing what is done. Oh, I have never played a single video game in my life. I would rather fish lint out of my belly button. That is as big an insult as anyone could make!  | |||
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whatever, man -- https://www.snopes.com/news/20...oops-suckers-losers/ opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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From your quoted story "While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim." Unverified does not mean proven false, unless you have a childlike grasp of the English language. I'm sure you will continue to repeat that lie though, you have been called out on it before. Whatever indeed..... | |||
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and therein lies ONE of the core differences -- if it can't be proven true, then, to me, it's FALSE -- in all cases but to some people, if it can't be false, then it's true but only in select cases where they want it to be ... AND, here's the dang of it, if it's TRUE, but you don't like it, then it's "the big lie" here's a couple the steele dossier is TRUTH hunter's laptop is russian disinformation Covid did NOT come from a lab Obama did NOT spy on the trump campaign without warrants jobama showered with his daughter Biden is sharp as a tack pelosi never used insider information for stock trades "Trump didn't win the popular vote" -- as if it matters, but he did win by wider margins than either bill clinton campaign "men can get pregnant" other side stupidity "trump is the greatest president" well, after that, none really compare ... anyway, i want another cup of coffee opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Nobody ever said you were the brightest bulb in the pack. Because something cannot be proven true does not make it false, it does not mean that it is true either. An intelligent person knows that a third option exists, the veracity of the claims can be undetermined. Hard to believe that such a simple concept escapes you but then again..... | |||
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Yeah, me so dumb... One position for the rational "no evidence of big foot" therefore it doesn't exist One position for the gullible, "there's no proof Bigfoot doesn't exist" Common sense just aint that common opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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It's not a question whether it's General Kelly lying or Trump and co lying. | |||
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