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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
The images of starving children coming out of Gaza are very very disturbing. The Israelis are making it impossible for the UN to deliver the food and other forms of relief that are pouring into the country from around the world. They're shooting innocent people who are trying to get food.

It's unacceptable. The US ought to do something about it.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Funny how blaming Israel for Hamas years of terror against them and against their own population is en vogue today
Definite madness
Good for Israel not to hesitate and trying to finish job no one else has the balls to do

Some people are incapable of seeing anything in life in other than binary terms. It is actually possible to condemn the acts of terrorism committed by Hamas and at the same time condemn the actions of Israel insofar as the Palestinian people are concerned.

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Originally posted by nute:
Milan, just out of interest what is your view on Israeli settlers beating and killing Palestinians in the West Bank to take their land? Legally owned property that settlers take a fancy to so they burn out or demolish the owners house, beat or kill the owner and the IDF stands by and does nothing.

How about when Americans are killed by settlers? Recently a 20 year old from Florida was beaten to death whilst in the West Bank visiting relatives. He was beaten by settlers who then blocked the road to prevent an ambulance getting through for 3 hours. He died on the way to hospital.

In the last couple of years 961 Palestinians have been murdered in the West Bank. Only 3% of the perpetrators have been convicted, 93% of investigations are closed without an indictment.

This is no different to black people in South Africa killing white farmers to take their land, which some here have been vocal about, but because it’s Israelis it’s OK.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/...-violence-rcna218408

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Originally posted by nute:
Milan, just out of interest what is your view on Israeli settlers beating and killing Palestinians in the West Bank to take their land? Legally owned property that settlers take a fancy to so they burn out or demolish the owners house, beat or kill the owner and the IDF stands by and does nothing.

How about when Americans are killed by settlers? Recently a 20 year old from Florida was beaten to death whilst in the West Bank visiting relatives. He was beaten by settlers who then blocked the road to prevent an ambulance getting through for 3 hours. He died on the way to hospital.

In the last couple of years 961 Palestinians have been murdered in the West Bank. Only 3% of the perpetrators have been convicted, 93% of investigations are closed without an indictment.

This is no different to black people in South Africa killing white farmers to take their land, which some here have been vocal about, but because it’s Israelis it’s OK.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/...-violence-rcna218408

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by nute:
Milan, just out of interest what is your view on Israeli settlers beating and killing Palestinians in the West Bank to take their land? Legally owned property that settlers take a fancy to so they burn out or demolish the owners house, beat or kill the owner and the IDF stands by and does nothing.

How about when Americans are killed by settlers? Recently a 20 year old from Florida was beaten to death whilst in the West Bank visiting relatives. He was beaten by settlers who then blocked the road to prevent an ambulance getting through for 3 hours. He died on the way to hospital.

In the last couple of years 961 Palestinians have been murdered in the West Bank. Only 3% of the perpetrators have been convicted, 93% of investigations are closed without an indictment.

This is no different to black people in South Africa killing white farmers to take their land, which some here have been vocal about, but because it’s Israelis it’s OK.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/...-violence-rcna218408

No opinion on that one as I don’t know all the details
But I will support Israel till the kingdom comes

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
I’m not gonna call you anything OK?
Whatever I’m is simply who I’m by trial and error throughout my life, good and bad
Name calling is childish and at times I have been guilty of that as well
Again, I do support Israel fully as of for their survival and seeing what they have to deal with constantly through generations of attacks from their friendly neighbors
That right there makes me back them up 100%, bar none

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Originally posted by theback40:
Supposedly, Israel is going to start air dropping supplies.
They will have to do something before all support erodes for them, from regular people.

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
I’m not gonna call you anything OK?
Whatever I’m is simply who I’m by trial and error throughout my life, good and bad
Name calling is childish and at times I have been guilty of that as well
Again, I do support Israel fully as of for their survival and seeing what they have to deal with constantly through generations of attacks from their friendly neighbors
That right there makes me back them up 100%, bar none

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
I’m not gonna call you anything OK?
Whatever I’m is simply who I’m by trial and error throughout my life, good and bad
Name calling is childish and at times I have been guilty of that as well
Again, I do support Israel fully as of for their survival and seeing what they have to deal with constantly through generations of attacks from their friendly neighbors
That right there makes me back them up 100%, bar none

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Well, that attitude on the part of you, those who think like you and your orange monkey leader is what has enabled them to engage in the murder and starvation of innocent civilians.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Starved in concentration camps in their own STOLEN country!

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Well, that attitude on the part of you, those who think like you and your orange monkey leader is what has enabled them to engage in the murder and starvation of innocent civilians.

When these reports come from the Health Ministry run by Hamas and you believe them, then good for you if you accept propaganda and doesn't it strike you as odd when they always show photos of emaciated children yet healthy-looking parents?

Did civilians get killed?
Yes for sure, as it happens in a war zone anywhere though with a difference where the IDF is concerned as they always give advance warning to civilians to get out of the intended strike area.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Well, that attitude on the part of you, those who think like you and your orange monkey leader is what has enabled them to engage in the murder and starvation of innocent civilians.

When these reports come from the Health Ministry run by Hamas and you believe them, then good for you if you accept propaganda and doesn't it strike you as odd when they always show photos of emaciated children yet healthy-looking parents?

Did civilians get killed?
Yes for sure, as it happens in a war zone anywhere though with a difference where the IDF is concerned as they always give advance warning to civilians to get out of the intended strike area.

Even your dunce leader agrees that Gazans aren't getting what they need:

President Donald Trump on Monday said he disagrees with Netanyahu’s claim of no starvation in Gaza, noting the images emerging of emaciated people: “Those children look very hungry.”

Who are all those people chasing those food trucks? Running with buckets and pans so they can get some of that nasty looking yellow gruel? The huge crowds of people living in squalid conditions? Are they all just actors?

You need to wake up and stop listening to Netanyahu. The man has lost all credibility.

What is going on in Gaza is a humanitarian crisis.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Well, that attitude on the part of you, those who think like you and your orange monkey leader is what has enabled them to engage in the murder and starvation of innocent civilians.

When these reports come from the Health Ministry run by Hamas and you believe them, then good for you if you accept propaganda and doesn't it strike you as odd when they always show photos of emaciated children yet healthy-looking parents?

Did civilians get killed?
Yes for sure, as it happens in a war zone anywhere though with a difference where the IDF is concerned as they always give advance warning to civilians to get out of the intended strike area.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Well, that attitude on the part of you, those who think like you and your orange monkey leader is what has enabled them to engage in the murder and starvation of innocent civilians.

When these reports come from the Health Ministry run by Hamas and you believe them, then good for you if you accept propaganda and doesn't it strike you as odd when they always show photos of emaciated children yet healthy-looking parents?

Did civilians get killed?
Yes for sure, as it happens in a war zone anywhere though with a difference where the IDF is concerned as they always give advance warning to civilians to get out of the intended strike area.

Even your dunce leader agrees that Gazans aren't getting what they need:

President Donald Trump on Monday said he disagrees with Netanyahu’s claim of no starvation in Gaza, noting the images emerging of emaciated people: “Those children look very hungry.”

Who are all those people chasing those food trucks? Running with buckets and pans so they can get some of that nasty looking yellow gruel? The huge crowds of people living in squalid conditions? Are they all just actors?

You need to wake up and stop listening to Netanyahu. The man has lost all credibility.

What is going on in Gaza is a humanitarian crisis.

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Originally posted by nute:
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I guess parents are deliberately starving their kids just for the photo ops?

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by nute:
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I guess parents are deliberately starving their kids just for the photo ops?

So why doesn't Hamas surrender or retreat?

Why don't the Palestinians give up Hamas?

Why don't they agree to a ceasefire?

I think it was months ago when Trump set a deadline of a few days to return all hostages. I believe that deadline has long expired, Trump didn't enforce his deadline not has the Palestinians/ Hamas returned the hostages. Why?

It's all the Jews fault and doing?

I agree that international condemnation of Israel seems to be growing. I doubt the claim that Palestanian or Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel is growing because of this or any other recent events. The Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel goes back centuries and no peace deal will ever be agreed upon honestly and without hardly concealed malice.

Israel could have responded to the October Islamic Terror attack with bouquets of flowers and Islam/ Hamas/ the Palestanians would still want to, "River to the Sea".

Hamas could end this horror show today. The Palestinians could end this horror show today.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by nute:
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I guess parents are deliberately starving their kids just for the photo ops?

So why doesn't Hamas surrender or retreat?

Why don't the Palestinians give up Hamas?

Why don't they agree to a ceasefire?

I think it was months ago when Trump set a deadline of a few days to return all hostages. I believe that deadline has long expired, Trump didn't enforce his deadline not has the Palestinians/ Hamas returned the hostages. Why?

It's all the Jews fault and doing?

I agree that international condemnation of Israel seems to be growing. I doubt the claim that Palestanian or Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel is growing because of this or any other recent events. The Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel goes back centuries and no peace deal will ever be agreed upon honestly and without hardly concealed malice.

Israel could have responded to the October Islamic Terror attack with bouquets of flowers and Islam/ Hamas/ the Palestanians would still want to, "River to the Sea".

Hamas could end this horror show today. The Palestinians could end this horror show today.

Scott, ive answered this question numerous times already, even earlier in this thread I think.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by nute:
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I guess parents are deliberately starving their kids just for the photo ops?

So why doesn't Hamas surrender or retreat?

Why don't the Palestinians give up Hamas?

Why don't they agree to a ceasefire?

I think it was months ago when Trump set a deadline of a few days to return all hostages. I believe that deadline has long expired, Trump didn't enforce his deadline not has the Palestinians/ Hamas returned the hostages. Why?

It's all the Jews fault and doing?

I agree that international condemnation of Israel seems to be growing. I doubt the claim that Palestanian or Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel is growing because of this or any other recent events. The Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel goes back centuries and no peace deal will ever be agreed upon honestly and without hardly concealed malice.

Israel could have responded to the October Islamic Terror attack with bouquets of flowers and Islam/ Hamas/ the Palestanians would still want to, "River to the Sea".

Hamas could end this horror show today. The Palestinians could end this horror show today.

Scott, ive answered this question numerous times already, even earlier in this thread I think.

the supporters of the supreme leader have no intention to try to understand aside of what the leader is saying ...

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by nute:
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I guess parents are deliberately starving their kids just for the photo ops?

So why doesn't Hamas surrender or retreat?

Why don't the Palestinians give up Hamas?

Why don't they agree to a ceasefire?

I think it was months ago when Trump set a deadline of a few days to return all hostages. I believe that deadline has long expired, Trump didn't enforce his deadline not has the Palestinians/ Hamas returned the hostages. Why?

It's all the Jews fault and doing?

I agree that international condemnation of Israel seems to be growing. I doubt the claim that Palestanian or Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel is growing because of this or any other recent events. The Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel goes back centuries and no peace deal will ever be agreed upon honestly and without hardly concealed malice.

Israel could have responded to the October Islamic Terror attack with bouquets of flowers and Islam/ Hamas/ the Palestanians would still want to, "River to the Sea".

Hamas could end this horror show today. The Palestinians could end this horror show today.

Scott, ive answered this question numerous times already, even earlier in this thread I think.

the supporters of the supreme leader have no intention to try to understand aside of what the leader is saying ...

By Scott King’s reasoning we should have starved to death all Germans.

Forget about that Marshall Plen thst saved Europe post war.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by nute:
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I guess parents are deliberately starving their kids just for the photo ops?

So why doesn't Hamas surrender or retreat?

Why don't the Palestinians give up Hamas?

Why don't they agree to a ceasefire?

I think it was months ago when Trump set a deadline of a few days to return all hostages. I believe that deadline has long expired, Trump didn't enforce his deadline not has the Palestinians/ Hamas returned the hostages. Why?

It's all the Jews fault and doing?

I agree that international condemnation of Israel seems to be growing. I doubt the claim that Palestanian or Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel is growing because of this or any other recent events. The Islamic hatred for Jews and Israel goes back centuries and no peace deal will ever be agreed upon honestly and without hardly concealed malice.

Israel could have responded to the October Islamic Terror attack with bouquets of flowers and Islam/ Hamas/ the Palestanians would still want to, "River to the Sea".

Hamas could end this horror show today. The Palestinians could end this horror show today.

Scott, ive answered this question numerous times already, even earlier in this thread I think.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
We did starve a lot of Germans and other Europeans in occupied areas… until the war was won.

The Marshall plan came about after victory.

We starved a lot of Japanese as well.

Then we were relatively magnanimous after the surrender (note that the Soviets were not.)

So the question is has Israel won the war?

It certainly seems that no one is surrendering in Gaza at this point.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
hamas has never had an election since 2006 ---

there WAS a ceasefire, lasted for nearly a decade

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
hamas has never had an election since 2006 ---

there WAS a ceasefire, lasted for nearly a decade

Israel could stop its genocide any day.

And no Hamas cannot have peace, because there is no world were Hamas continue la as a political entity.

Hamas only hope is to continue.

Much like Netanyahu snd his government.

You have nothing that is not equatable to letting Israel kill indiscriminately and cleanse Gaza of Palestinians.

Like I said, your rational would have agreed w you Stalin engaged post WWII. I’ll take the Marshall Plan.

Israel could form a government through Palestinians along time ago. Israel’s regime does not want to, and such is against their personal governing interest.

For better or worse, Israelis are going to have to deal a the far Right Cult in their government much as we do.