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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

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Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

They martyred him, and in so doing, created hundreds of thousands, if not millions of life-long Republicans out of High School and College-age Americans who have shown up to watch him provide a platform for open dialog between opposing viewpoints.
They hated him for that alone.
When he sat down with Gov. Gavin Newsome recently, the Gov. almost appeared to be fawning over Charlie's ability to draw huge crowds on College Campuses where ever he went. Charlie's sit down with Bill Maher recently is another example where his cerebral approach shined.
Then there's South Park, have to wonder aloud if those guys are having an introspective moment this afternoon?


.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

They martyred him, and in so doing, created hundreds of thousands, if not millions of life-long Republicans out of High School and College-age Americans who have shown up to watch him provide a platform for open dialog between opposing viewpoints.
They hated him for that alone.
When he sat down with Gov. Gavin Newsome recently, the Gov. almost appeared to be fawning over Charlie's ability to draw huge crowds on College Campuses where ever he went. Charlie's sit down with Bill Maher recently is another example where his cerebral approach shined.
Then there's South Park, have to wonder aloud if those guys are having an introspective moment this afternoon?


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I fear you are correct. But dont make a martyr of him. or a Saint. That kind of thing only destroys politics even further. He was a talented, energetic guy. His killer is some sort of hate filled deranged psychopath. His death is not a good reason to choose your leader. I suspect to do so only crates a rational for revenge.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

They martyred him, and in so doing, created hundreds of thousands, if not millions of life-long Republicans out of High School and College-age Americans who have shown up to watch him provide a platform for open dialog between opposing viewpoints.
They hated him for that alone.
When he sat down with Gov. Gavin Newsome recently, the Gov. almost appeared to be fawning over Charlie's ability to draw huge crowds on College Campuses where ever he went. Charlie's sit down with Bill Maher recently is another example where his cerebral approach shined.
Then there's South Park, have to wonder aloud if those guys are having an introspective moment this afternoon?


.

I fear you are correct. But dont make a martyr of him. or a Saint. That kind of thing only destroys politics even further. He was a talented, energetic guy. His killer is some sort of hate filled deranged psychopath. His death is not a good reason to choose your leader. I suspect to do so only crates a rational for revenge.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Another senseless murder.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Another senseless murder.

Exactly!

But, when you have a president who encourage this, what did you expect?

America should NEVER have this as president!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Another senseless murder.

Exactly!

But, when you have a president who encourage this, what did you expect?

America should NEVER have this as president!

he didn't -- you can take down your offensive pic - get over your TDS

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Nick Freitas, Rep in VA House of Delegates:
I am told that as a state representative this is the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences and then stand in solidarity with those on the other side of the aisle as we condemn political violence and stand unified as one people.

But we aren't "one people" are we?

The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore, if there ever was.

We are two very different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography, but that is where the similarities seem to abruptly end.

I convinced myself for a long time that whenever the left called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist, a "threat to democracy" for even the most innocent of disagreements, that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric done for effect.

And now the "effect" is a widow and two orphaned children, because the left couldn’t bear the thought of a peaceful man debating them and winning.

I don’t think they realize it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered as the day where we finally woke up to what this fight really is.

It’s not a civil dispute among fellow countrymen. It’s a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win, and one side will lose.

Charlie tried to win that fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences.

And the other side murdered him.

Not because he was “extreme” or “inciting violence” or any other hyperbolic slur they hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective. Because he was unafraid. Because he inspired others and made them feel like they had a voice, that they were not alone. And he did it at the very institutions which have fomented so much hatred toward conservatives.

I don’t want to “stand in solidarity” with the other side of the aisle. I want to defeat you. I want to defeat the godless ideology that kills babies in the womb, sterilizes confused children, turns our cities into cesspools of degeneracy and lawlessness…and that murdered Charlie Kirk.

Social media is aflame right now with leftist celebration of Charlie’s death.

I wonder if any among them understand what has just happened. If there is a Yamamoto somewhere in their midst warning, that all they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.

I doubt it. I think they gave up such introspection and self-awareness long ago.

I don’t know exactly what will happen next. I just know that it won’t be the same as what has happened in the past.

There will be thoughts and prayers…Charlie would have wanted prayers. Not for himself but for those left behind and for the country that he loved.

But then there will be a reckoning.

My Christian faith requires me to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me. It does not require me to stand idly by in the midst of savagery and barbarism...quite the opposite.

So every time I feel tired, every time I feel discouraged or overwhelmed, I am going to watch the video of a good man being murdered in Utah…I will force myself to watch it…and then I will return to the work of destroying the evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.

Rest with God Charlie, your fight is over.

Ours is just beginning.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

They martyred him, and in so doing, created hundreds of thousands, if not millions of life-long Republicans out of High School and College-age Americans who have shown up to watch him provide a platform for open dialog between opposing viewpoints.
They hated him for that alone.
When he sat down with Gov. Gavin Newsome recently, the Gov. almost appeared to be fawning over Charlie's ability to draw huge crowds on College Campuses where ever he went. Charlie's sit down with Bill Maher recently is another example where his cerebral approach shined.
Then there's South Park, have to wonder aloud if those guys are having an introspective moment this afternoon?


.

I fear you are correct. But dont make a martyr of him. or a Saint. That kind of thing only destroys politics even further. He was a talented, energetic guy. His killer is some sort of hate filled deranged psychopath. His death is not a good reason to choose your leader. I suspect to do so only crates a rational for revenge.

Shanks,
This is an Alamo moment - there won't be any coming back from this -

I hereby Nominate Charles James Kirk as an Honorary Texan - I'll write the governor with the same.

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

Just a different point of view from your view Shanks

Believe me, I don’t like plenty of conservatives in US, and I’m fairly conservative with some streaks of liberalism, particularly health issues wise ( health care ) but I liked him and I’m not particularly religious person
And Yes , it’s not a crime to not care about someone much

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

Just a different point of view from your view Shanks

Believe me, I don’t like plenty of conservatives in US, and I’m fairly conservative with some streaks of liberalism, particularly health issues wise ( health care ) but I liked him and I’m not particularly religious person
And Yes , it’s not a crime to not care about someone much

Semantic maybe, But my comments were not about liking him or caring about him. Just that I didn't always agree with his views and actions.

His base message was spot on, that we have to be able to disagree peacefully. but it was reductionist in that it totally left out finding common ground, or some form of working together, and it was inflammatory in that it was still about besting your opponent and presenting them too thew world in a poor light. SO it wasn't about listening to your opponent.
On the other hand, he gave conservative youth a place on campus that they had probably for a while, felt it was unsafe to speak in.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Let’s remember what Charlie Kirk wanted. Discourse without violence.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Let’s remember what Charlie Kirk wanted. Discourse without violence.

well most for sure here are supporting the deaths of any opponents such a good thing to call for discourse without violence when trump and the followers of the cult of the supreme leader are calling for actions against the called left ...

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Let’s remember what Charlie Kirk wanted. Discourse without violence.

well most for sure here are supporting the deaths of any opponents such a good thing to call for discourse without violence when trump and the followers of the cult of the supreme leader are calling for actions against the called left ...

you're scum, sir - you should be deported, but canada doesn't have the stones

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Just got in for breakfast and video was the first thing In my feed. I was not prepared for that and wish id never seen it.

Dirty fuckers!

I dont agree with a lot of Kirks veiws and to some extent, how he went about it.

But shooting a political opponent who was brave enough to sit in front of crowds who disliked/hated his views and argue his point is absolutely despicable!

Then you have not listened to him enough
Kirk was regular guy for regular folks, not some elite, who would shout down different views

I listened too him plenty. It's not a crime to not agree with aspects of what he said. Or. recognise that he knew he was antagonising via showing the worst in others.
That said it shows a failing in your universities that so many could not handle him or put up a reasonable discussion in return.
His recent Cambridge university event showed how things should be.

They martyred him, and in so doing, created hundreds of thousands, if not millions of life-long Republicans out of High School and College-age Americans who have shown up to watch him provide a platform for open dialog between opposing viewpoints.
They hated him for that alone.
When he sat down with Gov. Gavin Newsome recently, the Gov. almost appeared to be fawning over Charlie's ability to draw huge crowds on College Campuses where ever he went. Charlie's sit down with Bill Maher recently is another example where his cerebral approach shined.
Then there's South Park, have to wonder aloud if those guys are having an introspective moment this afternoon?


.

I fear you are correct. But dont make a martyr of him. or a Saint. That kind of thing only destroys politics even further. He was a talented, energetic guy. His killer is some sort of hate filled deranged psychopath. His death is not a good reason to choose your leader. I suspect to do so only crates a rational for revenge.

Shanks,
This is an Alamo moment - there won't be any coming back from this -

I hereby Nominate Charles James Kirk as an Honorary Texan - I'll write the governor with the same.

I second your nomination Sir!

Proceed!

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Originally posted by medved:
your hero ...

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Who’s hero?
Do you need to agree with everything a man has ever said to not think he deserves death by public execution?
I bet you must be whiter than Snow White to have that bar and not be a hypocrite.

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Originally posted by medved:
your hero ...

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Originally posted by MLindsay:
I see a list of things Charlie supposedly said, just curious if there is proof he said any of them or is it a list just put together

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Originally posted by MLindsay:
I see a list of things Charlie supposedly said, just curious if there is proof he said any of them or is it a list just put together