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Well, for once perhaps you tell the truth. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I always tell the truth ME. Here is some truth for you and the reason the left will lose for the foreseeable future. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Here's one for you, Lane. It's only 7 seconds. https://youtu.be/PWSx0bBiNIs?si=SN3kKoMDdXubNxWH ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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That’s at least 4 too many from anything you consider relevant.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I suppose you excuse spin. Is it about an illegal immigrant or is it about defying the judicial branch? We know your Truth answer. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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It’s about the USA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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We agree on that. IMO, you are being sly about the scope. I don't believe that you think it's just about person(s) deported illegally, and exec defiance of the court relating to that. What does sly rhyme with?  For example, Trump's plans for autocracy are multi-faceted. He wants control of the Fed Reserve. Why? https://youtu.be/3mewnKdMXrQ?si=nguREHWd3yvnkjzC Fed Chair Shocks Trump With Brutal Truth About US Economy There is a reason it's separated from the exec branch control. Trump's lust for power demands he control that too, so he can spin it for one thing. https://www.google.com/search?...HjQc&sclient=gws-wiz ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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It is about the Constitution. Your wishes do not govern. The checks and balanced and the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court do. Again, following a long line of caselaw this S. CT., majority held that people who are not citizens receive due process. Why, because the Executive is bound by the Constitution. The Constitution applies. Dr. Easter is the worst kind of lier. He knows the truth, but seeks to deceive others. | |||
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He just doesn't like our Constitution. He believes he'll never need it. Good Republican. | |||
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He has a reconciliation problem. The constitution is too messy, too restrictive and conflicted, and written by a bunch of originalist liberals. He can't reconcile his will, free will, God's will, the will of those who value and protect the secular constitution and rule of law. Such a problem. Just remember, Lane, we're here to help. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Where is the part in the Constitution that says the SCOTUS can force the POTUS to send a demand to the gvt of El Salvador that an El Salvadorian citizen be sent to the USA? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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That is in the checks and balances, the POTUS is bound by SCOTUS rulings, always has been, always will be. The GOP's embrace of authoritarian rule is disgusting  | |||
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I find it bizarre. For the prison it's only $$ Tell them we will send them more. Bring the guy back and run him through the courts as they should. Why make this drag on? | |||
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Yes, but that is common sense and an actual solution to the problem. That is not what Trump wants, he wants chaos and the culture war in America the thrive. Solving problems just isn't his bag. | |||
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Because they had no intention of following court mandated due process. That means the Executive could lose. The entire plan was to bypass the courts. If the Executive brings this man back, the entire scheme fails. | |||
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I see no one actually answered the question because the truth is that the POTUS cannot demand a return of an El Salvadorian citizen to the US from El Salvador. He may ask. Further, the SCOTUS cannot force the POTUS to engage in diplomatic activity with a foreign government. Now, back to his removal. There was possibly error there. I am not sure yet. What is appalling to me is the level of hysteria raised over the removal of an illegal alien who is likely an organized crime gang member who commits domestic violence and is suspected of human trafficking. Good riddance! He is back where he came from. No need to waste time or money on a thug. Damn! What has happened to us as a country? We are so far removed from the common sense of the greatest generation. Pathetic! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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No Lane, the appalling part is Trump's refusal to follow the rules and obey SCOTUS rulings. Totally appalling and you would be having a cow is a Democratic POTUS was abusing his power like Trump is. | |||
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Trump admin said it was a mistake. I suppose that means they admitted an error. The courts affirmed the error. What is the mental road block do you have that diverts you on this detour? I presume there was diplomatic activity to setup delivering the prisoners, and in the WH visit of the prez, and his incentive is probably money. Trump probably paid for the trip too. Why should he care? Most likely Trump persuaded (facilitated) him to care about Trump's power play scheme with the courts. I think you are the one who is hysterical. And you keep missing the point. Besides all this incident, SOME incident(s) is/are inevitable with Trump. For many years he's been actively thwarting the rule of law, lying, spinning, lawfare, etc. Given immunity, now, he's going to push, push, push until something breaks. One remedy is for the courts to push back, hard, by demanding hearings, testimony, etc. to find out who exactly to hold in contempt. I think it's Wormtongue Miller. Either Trump has to find a fall guy, or the court will. Then it becomes a matter of taking the 5th or refusing to show up. A circus or jail time or both for failure to comply by those subpoenaed. Or if it gets testy enough Trump could preemptively pardon, or post-conviction pardon. Trump wants media and TV exposure in his perverted reality show - give him what he wants, so much that GOPers in congress squirm so much they have saddle sores from riding this circus pony show. My hope is that in this contest or the next one, you find reasons to be really hysterical. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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The S. Ct., can and has ordered this Executive to facilitate. That is to make a good faith effort. This S. Ct., has also ordered the Executive must provide all these people hearings. Hearings before a judge that the Executive can lose. That has been the law since at least 1952. This does not matter, but at the first hearing back in 2019, the judge found that the government presented no evidence of gang affliction. Violation la of recognized due process is never a little thing. | |||
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If what I assume is heavily managed news is correct, there is a right way to remove an illegal alien. It was not done the legitimate way. Minions could go to jail for it, although Trump has immunity. For now. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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If the Executive’s own lawyer said it was error. No there is no possibility o it. None of these people can be removed wo due process. A hearing before a judge. What happened to us? We do not let the Executive seize people on allegations and make them disappear when the Constitution as amended says they receive due process. What is wrong with you? The Constitution refutes you. The 5th Amendment refutes you. The Supreme Court since at least 1952 refutes you. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Except this S. Ct., majority has told you 2x this month you are wrong. | |||
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At what point in history/time that you want to return to did traditional USA reject the concept of due process, of balance of power in three branches, constitutional limits on govt., etc.? I think it's something else that you love more. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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It is very simple. Dr. Easter only cares about political ends he supports. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the courts, checks and balances found in the Constitution are to be destroyed when they block his political ends. Traditional America does not allow the Executive to seize folks and make them disappear on the word of the Executive so due process. Your position is anti-conservative. It is tyranny. | |||
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Garcia was an illegal alien. Courts found him deportable. One court took issue with his home country in 2019. That country is now a safer place. We sent a citizen back to his home country...now a safe place. A win for the citizenry of the USA. The majority does not have a problem with that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Congratulations Lane! I did not know that you had been selected to speak for 170 million people. Frankly I would thought someone with a little more sense might have been a better choice . . .  Mike | |||
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Sense enough to send to send and illegal migrant from El Salvador back to El Salvador? I hope the Dems keep on this topic...then in the midterms you will see firsthand what the US electorate thinks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The Constitution, Checks snd Balances, are not subject to majority passions. You are advocating for due process not to apply when it is settled by this Court and every Court before due process applies. You would give the Executive power the Constitution and the Bill of Righrs does not allow. | |||
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The Dems? You mean like Alito, Roberts, Kavanaugh, Thomas, Gorsuch and Barrett? Mike | |||
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The way he fucked up the economy should overshadow any of this deportation shit and should doom just about any Republican up for re-election. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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https://youtube.com/shorts/nby...?si=YSN36g2z-xkQ750e This Birthright Citizenship case at the Supreme Court could end up being a massive MAGA self-own ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Economy great in my neck of the woods. Building materials are reasonable (despite the hysteria on here) and housing market still strong. Going to build a couple of specs this summer. Veterinary industry is booming. Energy prices are down. The stock market will settle down before long. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Sure My older friends whose retirement is 401k base would disagree with you. | |||
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You are correct. The wealthy can afford to ride this mess out, older working class folks do not have that luxury. | |||
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Short term…the stock market goes up and the stock market goes down. Long term…it always grows. Unless you day trade…quit looking at your Schwab app every hour. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I do not feel the same optimism. P/E ratios in the thirties, with five percent interest rates were not sustainable for companies with reasonable growth rates. The settling will be at lower prices for awhile. The Trump Recession is not going to help this. Energy prices should go down in a recession... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I will tell my elderly parents not to worry because you said so. Are you really that goddamn dumb? I doubt it, more likely just drunk on the Kool-aid | |||
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This event is self created. That is e difference. This is not a random up and down. Then we add the Executive’s attempt to bully the Fed. | |||
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Please enlighten me on what I said that wasn’t true? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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