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Originally posted by boom stick:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Tis better to show a man his faults with words than publicly execute him in front of his family with bullets and let his children watch him seize up and exsanguinate in 5 seconds.

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Discourse, not crime. Discourse is not a crime. Discourse MAY be the answer.

that kind of speech ... seriously ...

no but his death doesnt make him an hero ... but again you are choosing the cult of the supreme leader and for that you are a great follower ...

Actually someone trying to make the world a better place and getting killed for it despite the threats does make him a hero to decent people. I didn’t agree with everything he said but he was a hell of a man AND a hero. What supreme leader are you referring to? Trump? I never voted for him. Have a blessed day or bless someone else’s day.

you are writing he is an hero ... and you are asking who s calling him hero lol ... seems you have a problem between posts ...

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. . . ask gays and transgenders if he was trying to love them. The man was popular because he was controversial. He was controversial in part because he attacked certain groups and took controversial stands. You don’t want to call that hate, fine. But the same logic applies. Attack someone’s lifestyle loud enough and long enough, don’t be surprised if they push back at some point, although murder is never the answer. Louis Farrakhan says controversial things. If someone reacted to that physically would anyone be surprised? Words carry weight. Words have consequences.

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In his faith, he was trying to get people to see truths and challenge their positions. Trans is a social construct and a sin in his eyes.

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. . . ask gays and transgenders if he was trying to love them. The man was popular because he was controversial. He was controversial in part because he attacked certain groups and took controversial stands. You don’t want to call that hate, fine. But the same logic applies. Attack someone’s lifestyle loud enough and long enough, don’t be surprised if they push back at some point, although murder is never the answer. Louis Farrakhan says controversial things. If someone reacted to that physically would anyone be surprised? Words carry weight. Words have consequences.

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That’s fine. But when you want to call someone out for living in sin . . . in your eyes . . . do not be shocked if they react negatively.

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That’s fine. But when you want to call someone out for living in sin . . . in your eyes . . . do not be shocked if they react negatively.

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Does it matter which church it is?

My experience is with Catholic and fundamentalist Christians, they all seem judgemental and hypocritical to me.

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Does it matter which church it is?

My experience is with Catholic and fundamentalist Christians, they all seem judgemental and hypocritical to me.

In this case, yes. Many Protestant church's are "fire and brimstone" sermons. Never saw such in an orthodox or catholic church

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Hate is a personal problem, not a death sentence.

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Yes. He was a hero and now a martyr. If you disagree I say that’s on you. Ghandi and MLK were heroes too but did and said some things I disagree with too.

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You say he was hating but others say he was trying to love people by telling truths (personal truths or lived experiences in lib speak) using the Socratic method in discourse to challenge people’s assumptions and positions. Again… I didn’t agree with everything he said or did and never voted for Trump. Please stop using this paradigm.

ok i will repeat what you do not understand: there is no love in what i posted on the excerpts of his interventions ... you might not accept it but he was a supporter of trump as well and you stated he was a hero ...